Posted on 09/11/2004 5:05:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
.............Rather and 60 Minutes relied on memos said to reflect the contemporaneous thoughts of Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian of the Air National Guard. In one, apparently from May 1972, Killian recounts rebuking then-Lieutenant Bush for wanting to get out of his service requirements to work on the Alabama political campaign of a friend of his father. Another, from August of that year, seems to show that Bush had been suspended from flight status because he failed to meet requirements and refused to undergo a required annual flight examination. A third memo also suggested pressure from Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt - the official who The Dallas Morning News is now reporting had already left the service - to "sugar-coat" Bush's performance evaluations.
But attacks mushroomed online over the technical details of the documents, which the White House released to reporters without challenge. Critics, some claiming expertise, said that the typeface was a font common to word processors and was not available on decades-old typewriters. Addresses were centered on the page, rather than flush with one margin or another - an attribute of computer programs, these critics said. And, they said, the presence of a raised "th" next to ordinal numbers in the memos - as in a reference to the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron - was a dead giveaway. It's a complicated maneuver on typewriters, but computers often automatically elevate the "th" in such numbers, they said.
CBS directly combated several of those challenges yesterday. The typeface attributed to the documents by some skeptics has been available since 1931, according to CBS. And the elevated "th" could be found on military documents at least as early as 1968, the network said, reproducing one example in a record previously released by the White House.
(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...
....the network said
As Fred Barnes said last night on Fox News, if he claimed he could run a 100 yard dash he would have to prove it, and CBS needs to prove this with a typewriter that would have come from that office.
We say so news.
And I, like Jim Angle, would pay cash money to see The Beadle do that. < |:)~
Has anyone asked Lt Col Killian's secretary what kind of machine she used? Or if she typed such memos for him? Or if the Killian family owned one? Curious minds want to know.
Isn't the Baltimore Sun the home paper for some fat load of a columnist from the McLaughlin Group who is in the tank for Kerry?
Bandit has talked to someone with a Composer. I'm sure they'll be receiving a call from Ms. Mopes, shortly.
As to the Killian family, his wife has been quoted as saying that Killian did not type. Why would a non-typist own a rare and expenxive typewriter?
Be an idiot.
Also, I would think that if a secretary transcribed these docs she/he would have own initials on them.
Yes. Fat Jack.
It would have been a very expensive typewriter (if in fact it was available). Lt Col Killian barely typed so it's doubtful he had one at home and it is highly suspect that the national guard office would have been supplied with one.
Let's see. The FCC wants to yank the ticket of a network for showing a two second shot of JJ's rather average (pun unintended) tit. but is silent about a networks obvious INTENTIONAL LIE about the President. Perhaps Mr. Powell should get off of his ass and do his job!
I think there is an 'it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is' statement in CBS's rebuttal.
Times New Roman typeface has been available since 1931, but it is my understanding that it was available as just that - a typeface that could be used by typographers/printers. I'd like to see proof that it was ever a style used for a typewriter.
Bet the paper and ink these memos are printed on doesn't match, either. Unless they found a thirty year old stash of paper and ink somewhere.
Where were these documents during the 2000 election? I'm amazed that Rather and friends didn't discover them until now. Maybe they just didn't think about forgery until now.
Of course there is no paper and ink to examine.
The docs were faxed to CBS from an unnamed source.
Three guesses why they were faxed. And three guesses why CBS didn't insist on examining the originals...
A seedy old hack!
That's it!
That's what WAS in Vince Fosters (found empty) briefcase...
old, old paper and ink!
It's all starting to come into focus...
Probably. But to tell you the truth, the idea that a secretary in both 1972 and 1973 produced these so boggles the mind that it is hardly worth asking. Even if someone had used a true proportional font machine to produce one document, as some kind of lark, or because every typewriter in the building was broken, they wouldn't have done it with three documents over a period of more than a year. The kind of typesetting machine that could product something like this (and I don't know if anything could produce something exactly like this) was complex, slow, and a pain. The following link has some liberal nonsense in it, but the part I cite is correct:
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