Posted on 09/11/2004 5:48:34 AM PDT by unspun
This Leader column includes a link to the actual, audio, "selfish hedonist / Mary Cheney" interview of Alan Keyes. It is four minutes of reality, which should put this matter into a much better perspective than many now have. I recommend listening to it: http://www.unspun.info/il/040831-signorile-keyes.mp3
BTW, AK was terrific in his 9.11 speech this afternoon at the Milton Township (Repub-rich Du Page County) Picnic, today. He delivired just the kind of Alan Keyes message we've hoped for (or, I should say he likely exceeded our expectations). State Sen. Peter Roskam spoke (very well) prior and hosted the event. Dave Diersen organized it.
KEYES GLOWED WITH PRAISE FOR PRESIDENT "G.W. BUSH," especially for his principles, genuine concern and effective decision making in protecting American lives, including our action in Iraq. Also indicative: while probably responding to W's down-home way of speaking, Keyes said that this great leader was also one of us common people. (Keyes hardly sounds like the narcissist that some have charged, there.)
Keyes layed into Obama as being a part of the dishonest approach of Democrats, e.g., saying they promote jobs, while doing what tears down businesses --among other issues. He hit hard, the corrupt Democrat machine rule of their part of Illinois (and only by unspoken inference let their GOP imitators hang). He spoke up for voting for Republicans up and down the ticket.
Keyes explained why moral principles and issues are our most important ones, in beautiful context, referring to the remarks of historian(s) on the subject. He referred to the abortion issue in similar excellent context.
I think it's apparent that his month-one was Alan Keyes used to being ignored by the media and believing virtually his **only possibility to make headway** was the alternative open to him: a series of media firestorms, hoping for a public backlash against the media and a platform for his message and candidacy. I think Keyes made this clear to grass-roots leaders, a week ago.
I think with Bush taking his huge upswing and the Kerry campaign crumbling, AK now sees he doesn't need to give quite such incendiary fuel to the media. I think today marks the Keyes we will see from now till Nov. 2 --while continuing to be unrelenting as appropriate on America's moral priorities --he'll still be Keyes. ;-`
WTTW Channel 11 (PBS) was there. Perhaps other news stations.
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BTW, 274 views of this article and no comments. How curious is that? (Looks like self promotion to post one's own article? Difficult to read? Paragraphs too short? ;-) Please give me any feedback you have, either on the thread or privately. I've pinged one or two this particular time, who have been critical in the past, but with whom I've corresponded privately.
A few of us have been told by the boss to stay off the Keyes threads so you guys can drop flower petals for him.
Take me off your Keyes ping list.
Just happened to view it now, unspun! ;-)
Thanks for posting this.
Re. the Mary Mostert article, I still think she put some of her own words in Keyes' mouth; otherwise, she's spot on.
BTW, glad the unproductive, anti-Keyes trollers have been asked to stay off these threads. Thank you, Jim.
Not yet--I'm going out in a bit here. :-)
Am saving it to my 'puter for later tho', thank you!
That's what I can't figure out about McCain -- that he could criticize Keyes for making a rational comparison between two such obviously cognate things. (The terrorist's entire point is that the destruction of innocent human life is necessary to the achievement of his larger goals. Indeed, in this, the terrorist and the abortionist -- not to mention the about-to-be-aborted mother -- are in fact both engaged in the same game....)
I guess this is why I have such trouble trusting McCain.... If you were to ask me, I'd say he's just as good at irrationality and the game of "political flip-flop" as Kerry is, and probably engages in it for much the same reasons.
Excellent article, Brother A. Congratulations!
I listened to the audio tape. I found it to be exacerbatory. I will leave it at that.
You must've missed that thread where other FReepers (of all people) were bashing Keyes for this comparison!
That's what finally convinced me that some "conservatives" are too irrational to discuss certain issues with.
Okay, I *tried* to save it but it's not working for some reason. Will have to come back later. :-)
Thanks for the report.
Appreciate your dispassionate observation. Agree with your e-word --and the very act of Keyes granting an interview with MS was exacerbatory IMHO, exacerbatory for calculated reasons, whether ill or well conceived. It was a ploy for Signorile and I think it was a ploy for Keyes, at the time, knowing the kind of interview he was getting into.
I guess this is why I have such trouble trusting McCain.... If you were to ask me, I'd say he's just as good at irrationality and the game of "political flip-flop" as Kerry is, and probably engages in it for much the same reasons.
It seems that McCain has a deep seated grudge or at least pique against outspoken Christian conservatives, for reasons no man but Jesus may know.
Just listened to it!
Keyes is quite clearly pro-President Bush, regardless of what his detractors have to say.
As expected, he was also right on the mark regarding why homosexual marriage cannot and should not take place. He did a good job with the pro-homosexual interviewer too.
Thanks for this, I look forward to a transcript of today's speech.
Sadly, though, I have come to believe that things are too far gone in this country for the average voter to give more concern to unvarnished truth than they do to bread-and-circuses.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm real skeptical I'll be proven wrong in Chicago.
"A few of us have been told by the boss to stay off the Keyes threads SO YOU GUYS CAN DROP FLOWER PETALS FOR HIM."
Hilarious.
Yes. These anti-Keyes tollers have depressed his poll numbers.
The numbers will soon skyrocket, since we got them squelched.
No k2blader, I didn't miss it. I posted there (#73). But then my correspondent informed me that he/she has "no comment on anything Dr. Keyes has to say." So that pretty much ended the conversation right there.
I guess people on the political Left don't have a monopoly on the fine art of avoiding rational debate by "killing the messenger" in lieu of engaging his argument.... I see that sort of thing at FR quite frequently. But then, FR is a kind of microcosm, so you get to see pretty much everything here, sooner or later.
Thanks for writing k2blader!
Yes, I've noticed that too, Brother A. It's puzzling that a nominal Christian would take that attitude toward his own co-religionists. Yet there it is.
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