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Queer Eye for the Media Guy (audio link: Alan Keyes actual "selfish hedonist" comments in context)
The Illinois Leader ^ | 9-10-2004 | Arlen Williams

Posted on 09/11/2004 5:48:34 AM PDT by unspun

Queer Eye for the Media Guy

Friday, September 10, 2004


OPINION -- O-k, tell me. Last week, when you were told Alan Keyes “lashed out” against Mary Cheney, “attacking” the vice president’s daughter as a selfish hedonist, did you believe it?

Come on, be straight with me. Did you believe that?

Now, would you like to hear the actual interview? Here is an mp3 audio file of it. So have a listen. If you failed the bumper sticker test, “Don’t believe the liberal media,” and really thought he attacked poor Mary, come out of the closet.

By the way, as unfortunate as it is to be a selfish hedonist (and don’t we all know it?), it gets worse. Just between you and me, Ms. Cheney is a practicing lesbian. No, I’m not calling her names; she tells people about it, herself. And whatever reason Keyes had for granting this interview to him, Michelangelo Signorile is an arch homosexual activist.

Well, at least Keyes showed he’s no homophobe. He spoke up just as fearlessly to Signorile of all-homosexual-all-the-time Sirius OutQ satellite radio, as he has to anyone else, Lord love us all.

Credit Mary Mostert for acting up for Keyes and outing this interview with pride (and credit Signorile for letting it fly, without copyright inhibitions).

In Mostert’s comments, "Alan Keyes teaches sex education lesson to homosexual interviewer," she relates Signorile, “is known for what we might call harassing politicians about sex. He prowled the halls of the 1996 Republican Convention in San Diego, which I attended, pouncing on unsuspecting delegates about sex.”

She also transcribed the brunt of the interview, for hearing-impaired PC’s.

But since you just took a moment to listen, you know that Keyes stood strong for the president and vice president, both before and after he explained how marriage is human mating and mating is sexual - and sex by its utter definition is male/female. (Remember Biology class? Botany, yet? Even plants know this.)

Even so, tolerant Keyes stood up for the VP’s personal right to believe in “gay marriage.”

Others in IllinoisLeader.com and I already examined Keyes’ taking on the obvious Signorile ploy, “So Mary Cheney is a selfish hedonist; is that it?” Keyes is adamantly pursuing his unique experiment, of a political candidate “telling it like it is,” however uncomfortable and downright offensive that pesky truth-telling thing may be to any of us voters.

Just look at the latest Keyes call: that Christ Jesus would not vote for Barack Obama, who truth be told, maintains a pro-infanticide record in the state Senate - for partial birth abortion and even the “practice” of forcing birth in order to off the air-gasping person.

And by the way, if your voting were Christ-influenced, could you vote for Obama? I sure couldn’t.

Let’s rerun last week’s episode, “Selfish Hedonist Attack” on the media side. See how the communal consciousness of the Borg-like media is much, much more in tune with Signorilean homophiliactivism, than with the straight talk of folk who understand the facts of life and marriage. (Apologies for Star Trek jargon. The monstrous “Borg,” for those who don’t know Seven of Nine, for instance, automatically share thoughts with each other and aggressively assimilate the minds of victims into their collective.)

Let’s use Google, the not so little search engine that could not tolerate some pro-marriage sites, banning them for being non-PC “hate.”

In news.google.com, entering “Alan Keyes AND Cheney AND attack” I find oh… 122 news items. With news.yahoo.com: 92. Now, substitute “attack” with “(lash OR lashed)” as in, “lashed out!” and one gets Yahoo: 24, Google: 7.

And look, an article coming up front and center from the Libune - the once cherished Chicago Tribune, for those who haven’t read it in a decade or three.

By the Lib’s Jennifer Skala and Ofelia Casillas, it reads, “As the Republican National Convention focused on unity Tuesday, Keyes lashed out at the vice president's gay daughter. And it was only the second day of the convention.”

Entitled, “Keyes takes jabs at his own party,” the “report” serves to portray the candidate at odds with Judy Baar Topinka and John McCain, who can usually be counted on for a quote disparaging the conservatives he somehow maintains are his cohorts, when they get uppity. Plus, they found another homosexual-rites activist to quote.

Case in point, how a scandal is born. Keyes' comments get rushed, wildly out of context, from a leftist gotcha interview and into the faces of those who can best provide statements to alienate one who dares call homosexuality the unfortunate sin it is. Discord is sown in Republican ranks.

Also born is a bonus from McCain, criticizing Keyes for comparing abortionists to terrorists. The Libune didn't get balancing comments from any infants being ripped apart.

Are other news media as affected as the Tribune? How about I turn the tables and ask you to find any initial major mediateer reports of Michelangelo's Keyes interview that neglected the terms "attack" or "lash out?" Maybe someone can even find one providing Keyes' moral, philosophical, and empirical context for the phrase "selfish hedonism."

Let me know.

And do you know someone who still thinks Keyes “lashed out” at the Cheney family? Feel free to send this link along.

Campaigning, am I?

Searching for truth and campaigning to spread it around, I hope - not terribly unlike Alan Keyes, come to think. And hey! That’s what journalists are supposed to do, too.

© 2004 IllinoisLeader.com -- all rights reserved

[Arlen Williams keeps an eagle's eye on the news, from his perch on the outskirts of Chicagoland. Write to Arlen at arlen.williams@unspun.info.]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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Submitted for your perusal... Catch the actual interview that spawned the "Mary Cheney is a selfish hedonist" attack. (Attack of Alan Keyes.)

mp3 audio file of interview.

1 posted on 09/11/2004 5:48:35 AM PDT by unspun
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To: JustPiper; Right_Handed_Writer; EternalVigilance; TheRightGuy; cfrels; DMZFrank; technochick99; ...

This Leader column includes a link to the actual, audio, "selfish hedonist / Mary Cheney" interview of Alan Keyes. It is four minutes of reality, which should put this matter into a much better perspective than many now have. I recommend listening to it: http://www.unspun.info/il/040831-signorile-keyes.mp3

BTW, AK was terrific in his 9.11 speech this afternoon at the Milton Township (Repub-rich Du Page County) Picnic, today. He delivired just the kind of Alan Keyes message we've hoped for (or, I should say he likely exceeded our expectations). State Sen. Peter Roskam spoke (very well) prior and hosted the event. Dave Diersen organized it.

KEYES GLOWED WITH PRAISE FOR PRESIDENT "G.W. BUSH," especially for his principles, genuine concern and effective decision making in protecting American lives, including our action in Iraq. Also indicative: while probably responding to W's down-home way of speaking, Keyes said that this great leader was also one of us common people. (Keyes hardly sounds like the narcissist that some have charged, there.)

Keyes layed into Obama as being a part of the dishonest approach of Democrats, e.g., saying they promote jobs, while doing what tears down businesses --among other issues. He hit hard, the corrupt Democrat machine rule of their part of Illinois (and only by unspoken inference let their GOP imitators hang). He spoke up for voting for Republicans up and down the ticket.

Keyes explained why moral principles and issues are our most important ones, in beautiful context, referring to the remarks of historian(s) on the subject. He referred to the abortion issue in similar excellent context.

I think it's apparent that his month-one was Alan Keyes used to being ignored by the media and believing virtually his **only possibility to make headway** was the alternative open to him: a series of media firestorms, hoping for a public backlash against the media and a platform for his message and candidacy. I think Keyes made this clear to grass-roots leaders, a week ago.

I think with Bush taking his huge upswing and the Kerry campaign crumbling, AK now sees he doesn't need to give quite such incendiary fuel to the media. I think today marks the Keyes we will see from now till Nov. 2 --while continuing to be unrelenting as appropriate on America's moral priorities --he'll still be Keyes. ;-`

WTTW Channel 11 (PBS) was there. Perhaps other news stations.
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BTW, 274 views of this article and no comments. How curious is that? (Looks like self promotion to post one's own article? Difficult to read? Paragraphs too short? ;-) Please give me any feedback you have, either on the thread or privately. I've pinged one or two this particular time, who have been critical in the past, but with whom I've corresponded privately.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 3:33:19 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: unspun
BTW, 274 views of this article and no comments.

A few of us have been told by the boss to stay off the Keyes threads so you guys can drop flower petals for him.

Take me off your Keyes ping list.

3 posted on 09/11/2004 3:36:26 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: unspun; Jim Robinson

Just happened to view it now, unspun! ;-)

Thanks for posting this.

Re. the Mary Mostert article, I still think she put some of her own words in Keyes' mouth; otherwise, she's spot on.

BTW, glad the unproductive, anti-Keyes trollers have been asked to stay off these threads. Thank you, Jim.


4 posted on 09/11/2004 3:43:05 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: sinkspur
Thanks for your 'heads up' or something, sinks. You're not on a ping list. Just recalled some private correspondence.
5 posted on 09/11/2004 4:01:02 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: k2blader
Thanksyourwelcomeandthanks... but did you get to listen to the interview?
6 posted on 09/11/2004 4:03:17 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: unspun

Not yet--I'm going out in a bit here. :-)

Am saving it to my 'puter for later tho', thank you!


7 posted on 09/11/2004 4:05:18 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun
Also born is a bonus from McCain, criticizing Keyes for comparing abortionists to terrorists.

That's what I can't figure out about McCain -- that he could criticize Keyes for making a rational comparison between two such obviously cognate things. (The terrorist's entire point is that the destruction of innocent human life is necessary to the achievement of his larger goals. Indeed, in this, the terrorist and the abortionist -- not to mention the about-to-be-aborted mother -- are in fact both engaged in the same game....)

I guess this is why I have such trouble trusting McCain.... If you were to ask me, I'd say he's just as good at irrationality and the game of "political flip-flop" as Kerry is, and probably engages in it for much the same reasons.

Excellent article, Brother A. Congratulations!

8 posted on 09/11/2004 4:09:31 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: unspun

I listened to the audio tape. I found it to be exacerbatory. I will leave it at that.


9 posted on 09/11/2004 4:13:34 PM PDT by Torie
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To: betty boop

You must've missed that thread where other FReepers (of all people) were bashing Keyes for this comparison!

That's what finally convinced me that some "conservatives" are too irrational to discuss certain issues with.


10 posted on 09/11/2004 4:17:32 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun

Okay, I *tried* to save it but it's not working for some reason. Will have to come back later. :-)


11 posted on 09/11/2004 4:18:47 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun

Thanks for the report.


12 posted on 09/11/2004 4:24:07 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Torie
I listened to the audio tape. I found it to be exacerbatory. I will leave it at that.

Appreciate your dispassionate observation. Agree with your e-word --and the very act of Keyes granting an interview with MS was exacerbatory IMHO, exacerbatory for calculated reasons, whether ill or well conceived. It was a ploy for Signorile and I think it was a ploy for Keyes, at the time, knowing the kind of interview he was getting into.

13 posted on 09/11/2004 4:36:48 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: betty boop
Thank you Sister J.

I guess this is why I have such trouble trusting McCain.... If you were to ask me, I'd say he's just as good at irrationality and the game of "political flip-flop" as Kerry is, and probably engages in it for much the same reasons.

It seems that McCain has a deep seated grudge or at least pique against outspoken Christian conservatives, for reasons no man but Jesus may know.

14 posted on 09/11/2004 4:49:31 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: unspun

Just listened to it!

Keyes is quite clearly pro-President Bush, regardless of what his detractors have to say.

As expected, he was also right on the mark regarding why homosexual marriage cannot and should not take place. He did a good job with the pro-homosexual interviewer too.


15 posted on 09/11/2004 7:19:12 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun

Thanks for this, I look forward to a transcript of today's speech.

Sadly, though, I have come to believe that things are too far gone in this country for the average voter to give more concern to unvarnished truth than they do to bread-and-circuses.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm real skeptical I'll be proven wrong in Chicago.


16 posted on 09/11/2004 7:19:43 PM PDT by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: sinkspur

"A few of us have been told by the boss to stay off the Keyes threads SO YOU GUYS CAN DROP FLOWER PETALS FOR HIM."

Hilarious.


17 posted on 09/11/2004 8:24:53 PM PDT by NCPAC (Social Darwinists Unite!)
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To: k2blader
BTW, glad the unproductive, anti-Keyes trollers have been asked to stay off these threads. Thank you, Jim.

Yes. These anti-Keyes tollers have depressed his poll numbers.

The numbers will soon skyrocket, since we got them squelched.

18 posted on 09/11/2004 8:29:31 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: k2blader; unspun; Alamo-Girl; marron; TheOtherOne
You must've missed that thread where other FReepers (of all people) were bashing Keyes for this comparison!

No k2blader, I didn't miss it. I posted there (#73). But then my correspondent informed me that he/she has "no comment on anything Dr. Keyes has to say." So that pretty much ended the conversation right there.

I guess people on the political Left don't have a monopoly on the fine art of avoiding rational debate by "killing the messenger" in lieu of engaging his argument.... I see that sort of thing at FR quite frequently. But then, FR is a kind of microcosm, so you get to see pretty much everything here, sooner or later.

Thanks for writing k2blader!

19 posted on 09/11/2004 9:42:44 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: unspun
It seems that McCain has a deep seated grudge or at least pique against outspoken Christian conservatives, for reasons no man but Jesus may know.

Yes, I've noticed that too, Brother A. It's puzzling that a nominal Christian would take that attitude toward his own co-religionists. Yet there it is.

20 posted on 09/11/2004 9:48:03 PM PDT by betty boop
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