Posted on 09/11/2004 4:09:42 PM PDT by charleston1
The CBSNEWS website includes links to four pdf files that are allegedly documents produced by the late Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian. The USA Today website (search on "bush docs") includes a link "see the memos" which links to a pdf file which includes all of the CBS documents and two more. The two additional "Killian" documents are dated 02 February 1972, and 24 June 1973. The earlier document includes the more informal "Jerry B. Killian" signature block but no signature. The later document is an apparent practice letter with a salutation to "sir" but no address or name of the person to whom Colonel Killian is trying to correspond. I can certainly understand why these two additional documents did not make the "60 Minutes" cut. They are worth reviewing for a number of reasons if you have not seen them.
"Welcome to FR..... hope you enjoy the forum"
Thank you very much. I certainly am enjoying it and I must admit I am quite impressed with the intelligence level shown here. This is like supersleuth heaven. I must I admit I am overwhelmed by the traffic volume. You see I type about as fast as Colonel Killian did.
CBS Evening Slews?
Perhaps CBS Evening Screws?
Staldt retired in '72, not Killian. One of the memos written in 73 talks about Staldt putting pressure on Killian.
"The J on the signature of the Aug 72 memo is not the same as the J on the June 73 memo. Or am I seeing things?"
No you are not seeing things. Dan Rather may be seeing things--like a pink slip.
OK Thanks:)
There are probably some topics and threads you should avoid so you can retain that impression.
Nothing about it is in military style. I clicked the link, was able to see the first document for a few seconds. Then things glitch out. Can't get link to work right now.
If this is a joke, cool.
If not, forger is inept at best an idiot at worst.
Me too. Now that CBS knows how to make the fakes, they can make plenty. This should be fun.
by the way guys, the new June 24th memo has centered text with a superscript th in the squadron name. Based on the work the shade of days guy did, this could be pretty decisive. The spacing would be different for a typewriter and would be harder to center. Of course word with center this perfectly and if this new memo matches up to word that is really going to go a long way towards once and for all saying the selectric composer couldn't have done these.
October surprise?
If the DNC Photoshop commandos aren't careful it could well be. Just wait until someone sees that Colonel Killian also signed the recommendation for Kerry's Silver Star.
THERES SOMETHING FISHY GOING ON HERE
Why are none of the markings on the USA Today versions? You cant erase pen and marker ink. This would imply that USAT had these documents before CBS got them. If CBS could have I'm sure they would have released dodcuments without the pen marks and the longmont blackout.
So the question is why does USA Today have clean versions, while CBS was forced to use marked up versions?
We need to find every difference between the USA Today versions and the CBS versions. I have a suspicion that someone in the chain between CBS and USA Today, either created or made new versions of these memos.
They've gone through a couple extra replications. CBS sent docs to the White House & the White House sent copies out to all other media outlets. Every replication is going to degrade the copy.
These memos are useful for at least one thing:
The typing technology of the day made it difficult to center text (as with just about everything these "magical" memos do all too effortlessly).
Any complaints that the letterhead is too perfectly centered could be countered with the argument that the letterhead was pre-printed on the originals.
But the memo with the incomplete letterhead proves the letterheads were not pre-printed.
It's easy to speculate about the quality of Times Roman fonts available to typists in 1972. But it's impossible to center text that perfectly without a computer, even now.
Sorry. Had the name of the blog wrong. It was shade of days.
http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/
He contacted the maintainer of the selectric composer website and had him try and reproduce the memos using it because so much of the left is in a tizzy over this machine. The guy talks about how hard it is to center text while using a proportional font because you have to know EXACTLY what spacing is in each letter. But the header would be something that Killian would have to type a lot and it was THEORETICALLY possible that he figured it out and just always used that same spacing. Or even that he did it perfect once (not just perfect to the eye, perfect to the level of mircosoft) and just xeroxed it and used it over and over. But if it is still perfectly centered even with the superscript th that is going to remove a couple more of the left talking points. I already emailed him a couple minutes ago on this one.
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