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LA TIMES: No Disputing It: Blogs Are Major Players (FreeRepublic.Com & Buckhead Mentioned!)
The LA Times ^ | Sept. 12, 2004 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 09/12/2004 2:43:11 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

These days, CBS News anchor Dan Rather and his colleagues at the network's magazine program "60 Minutes II" are enduring an unusual wave of second-guessing by some of the public and fellow journalists.

For that, they can thank "Buckhead."

It was a late-night blog posting by this mystery Netizen that first questioned the validity of documents Rather cited Wednesday as proof that George W. Bush did not fulfill his National Guard duty more than 30 years ago.

Buckhead refuses to further identify himself, other than dropping hints that he is a male who lives on the East Coast — preferring to proclaim that the scramble to verify the contentions in his posting marks an extraordinary achievement for a medium that has operated more as an underground world of ideological venting than a source of legitimate news.

But Buckhead is vehement about one thing: He acted alone when he posted, to the conservative website FreeRepublic.com, what was widely believed to be the first allegation that the CBS report relied on documents that could have been forged.

"Absolutely, positively, on my own, sitting at my computer in my bedroom just before midnight — but not in my pajamas," he wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times. "But once I posted the comment to Free Republic I was no longer working alone, and that is the real point of the story about the story about the story."

That story began Wednesday, 19 minutes after the "60 Minutes II" broadcast began, when another FreeRepublic poster, TankerKC, noted that the documents were "not in the style that we used when I came into the USAF…. Can we get a copy of those memos?"

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; forgery; killian; mediawingofthednc; msm; rathergate
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To: Mo1

Its flattering actually. After years of ignoring us, they ridicule us. They're going through the classic five stages of grief. The partisan media is having to deal with Free Republic like most of us deal with death - deny, deny and deny. Only its no longer working for them.


361 posted on 09/12/2004 2:41:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: dread78645

Its "open source" journalism. Most blog bios are posted, all sources, methods and viewpoints are openly exchanged and subject to peer review. The Old Media's proprietary fact-checking process is full of holes. They hate having to admit a bunch of amateurs ran rings around them.


362 posted on 09/12/2004 2:44:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative; davidtalker
Thanks for the heads up on this thread, Dave! Don't miss Pukin Dog's extended rant, OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA

As they say on KSFO, "CAN YOU HEAR US NOW??"

BTW: GO 49ERS! SCREW THE RAIDERS!

363 posted on 09/12/2004 3:37:14 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
User: registrationsuxxx Pass: regsux

Not working any more.....got another?

Oh, and by the way, accounts registered before July 9 are no longer valid -- they need all-new, freshly-fresh reg data for their marketing-scum department.

364 posted on 09/12/2004 5:03:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: kcvl

Ooooh, kewl! Thanx!


365 posted on 09/12/2004 5:09:27 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Freepers and RW bloggers know the value of truth and veracity, dems and MSM have long since abandoned such ideals.

Anyone possessing great power and seized of an idea, an ideology, like they are can make the same gross strategic error, which is to lose sight of the fact that the means are the ends, or a part of them, in a free society.

Second thought: Liberals really represent Hamiltonianism, which in 1788 was "conservative", in the sense that Hamiltonians wanted to lead us back to a more authoritative government -- a "government of inherent authority", kingdom without the king, a goal they have held in view down to the present day. That idea of authoritative government was of a piece with the ideology that led the Holy Office of the Inquisition to cross-examine Galileo Galilei, knowing intuitively that Galileo's views were correct, with a view to forcing him to recant -- because of the impact of new knowledge on Church power.

Power junkies have always been with us, and they have, for the last 60 years, stood with the liberal cause and the Democratic Party.

Let's hope to God that conservatives and Republicans always remember to keep humming that old Alan Parsons Project tune, "I Wouldn't Want to Be Like You".

367 posted on 09/12/2004 5:47:12 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: NYCVirago

"-The fear I have is: How do you know who's doing the Web logs?-"

What does it matter as long as the information is accurate. We sure as heck don't know who's doing what at CBS! And look how screwed up they got it.

We 'amateurs' got it right!!


368 posted on 09/12/2004 5:55:57 PM PDT by airborne (FreeRepublic.com, a bastion of right-wing lunacy)
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To: kcvl

Thank you!


369 posted on 09/12/2004 6:15:17 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (Support, Prayers and Thanks to our Troops.)
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To: kcvl

http://www.bugmenot.com

Thanks!


370 posted on 09/12/2004 7:09:37 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: sweetliberty; Seeking the truth

We need to get that suggestion to the FReepstuff people!


Done! See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212966/posts?page=241#241

(I also sent an email to Gene at 0Cents.com yesterday)

Gene - more suggestions here!

371 posted on 09/12/2004 7:27:42 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You're welcome!


372 posted on 09/12/2004 7:29:17 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Howlin
But apparently the entire thing was cooked up by a couple of amateurs on Free Republic.

"Amateurs?" Does that mean writers for the MSM are professionals? Perhaps in the sense they get paid one might consider them professional, but not in the sense that their job requires skills unavailable to the general public without special training.

As someone else said recently, it's not possible for just anyone to step into an operating room and perform neurosurgery. Neurosurgeons have a special set of hard earned skills which an "amateur" cannot perform. But journalists can make no such similar claim. They simply use language and (supposedly) pursue the truth. Any "amateur" can do the same and, depending on the quality of his or her intellect and resourcefulness, sometimes (as we've seen in this case) do it far better than the "professionals."

373 posted on 09/12/2004 7:42:54 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Constantine XIII
Registration dates before September 2004 will become a badge of pride. :)

I guess I can wear a badge of pride then! Thank you! I thought the true badge of pride would be registrations before 9-11-01. I registered the day following after having my eyes opened wide. I have always been a Republican, but until I had a family and 9-11 happened, I would have never described myself as conservative. But now I am, and very proud of it!

The truth is a remarkable thing.
374 posted on 09/12/2004 8:06:53 PM PDT by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bump for the sheer beauty of it!!!


375 posted on 09/12/2004 8:17:37 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Almost all of these irritating registration sites have been hit by the Slashdot folks. On any site, you can use

Username: slashdot
Password: slashdot
Email address (if requested): slashdot@slashdot.org

It works at the LA Slimes.

376 posted on 09/12/2004 8:24:12 PM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Keith in Iowa

We just read this in the L.A. Times. My husband reads their paper almost every day.


377 posted on 09/12/2004 8:33:39 PM PDT by patriciaruth (Proud member of our bastion of right wing lunacy)
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To: West Coast Conservative
sitting at my computer in my bedroom just before midnight — but not in my pajamas,"

Too funny! Go Buckster!

378 posted on 09/12/2004 8:38:34 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (I'm a POP - Political Operative in Pajamas)
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To: West Coast Conservative; backhoe; Alamo-Girl

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This is NOT the 1st Time that Freerepublic.com has altered History:



'Playboy site for Hispanic reception (Mine: Coffee, Tea or Me?)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3921ce6c7673.htm



The above FReerepublic Thread was credited by Washington, D.C. Writer ELIZABETH SHOGREN in a Los Angeles Times front page article during the week of the 2000 Democratic Convention as the reason DNC Leaders were FORCED to make LORETTA SANCHEZ cancel her Playboy Mansion Reception for Convention Delegates.


Freepers Rule 4-CLARITY..!!!

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379 posted on 09/12/2004 9:01:42 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Buckhead; TankerKC; Howlin; NYCVirago
I'm a little late to the party tonight... have you seen seen this article? Awesome!

Once again, BRAVO to all of you!

380 posted on 09/12/2004 9:19:09 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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