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LIKE OLD TIMES
Ny daily news ^ | 9/12/04 | zec cheffets

Posted on 09/12/2004 4:42:09 PM PDT by rang1995

Like old times

Sunday, September 12th, 2004

Three years after 9/11, the grand, anti-fascist coalition of World War II is now falling into place. First, it was America alone. Then Great Britain threw in. Now, here comes Russia. It has taken three years because Moscow's impulse is always to cooperate with fascism. Stalin made this mistake in 1939 by signing a nonaggression pact with Hitler and woke up two years later with the German Army marching through Russia.

Vladimir Putin's government (and before it, Boris Yeltsin's government and successive Communist regimes) made similar miscalculations. Russia helped Iran with its nuclear program, sold weapons and supplies to Saddam Hussein and Baathist Syria and gave political support to the Palestinians - and hoped these good deeds would preserve it from fascist jihad.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 3rdanniversary; allies; israel; newnwo; russia; terror; usa
Like old times

Sunday, September 12th, 2004

Three years after 9/11, the grand, anti-fascist coalition of World War II is now falling into place. First, it was America alone. Then Great Britain threw in. Now, here comes Russia. It has taken three years because Moscow's impulse is always to cooperate with fascism. Stalin made this mistake in 1939 by signing a nonaggression pact with Hitler and woke up two years later with the German Army marching through Russia.

Vladimir Putin's government (and before it, Boris Yeltsin's government and successive Communist regimes) made similar miscalculations. Russia helped Iran with its nuclear program, sold weapons and supplies to Saddam Hussein and Baathist Syria and gave political support to the Palestinians - and hoped these good deeds would preserve it from fascist jihad.

Then Muslim holy warriors showed up at the schoolhouse in Beslan, and Putin underwent a battlefield conversion to the Bush Doctrine. "We have to admit that we showed no understanding of the danger occurring in our own country and the world," Putin told Russians after the massacre. Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, chief of the general staff, promised to "liquidate" the terrorists "in any region of the world."

Great Britain's foreign secretary, Jack Straw, has pronounced this new Russian position "understandable." The White House agrees.

A few days after Beslan, Putin sent Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to Jerusalem. Lavrov talked with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon about strategic cooperation in what the Russian called "the worldwide struggle."

At the same time, the commander of the Indian Air Force turned up in Israel, too. India, like Russia, has traditionally tried to deflect the jihad by supporting it against Israel. But Delhi's policy began to change after Pakistan developed an Islamic A-bomb. When Pakistani-backed warriors instituted a post-9/11 campaign of mass killing in Kashmir, the Indians realized what Putin has now figured out - that "local" aggression is actually part of a worldwide war of Islamic imperialism.

Israel was a destination for Indian and Russian officials not because - as The Nation magazine and Pat Buchanan darkly imagine - the Elders of Zion run the world, but because in this war, as in WWII, Jew-hatred is the emotional epicenter of the fascist enterprise. As a result, publicly embracing Israel is a symbolic declaration of independence from the orbit of Islamic imperialism.

It is also a highly practical step. Unlike WWII, this time the Jews have chosen to fight. For countries like Russia and India (and the U.S. and Great Britain, too) Israel is a source of great military expertise in the art and science of jihad-busting.

The Muslim Axis, watching the old WWII alliance come together, has itself to blame. Attacking the children of Beslan was a terrible mistake, akin to Hitler's invasion of Russia. Clear, strategic thinking is not a fascist long suit.

Islamists cling to the hope the reconstituted alliance will prove ephemeral. They are cheered by the fact that France has not joined, forgetting that France, far from being an Allied power in WWII, was then - as now - a servile nonentity. Canada is the only serious defector, and that is more than balanced by the addition of Japan and Italy and Germany's passive-aggressive nonintervention.

The Big Three have reasons to hang together. Russia will not soon forgive the massacre of its children, and Putin, if he wants to remain a credible leader, must turn his words into warfare. Great Britain remains committed to the Anglo-American special relationship (and Tony Blair, despite warnings from the British left-wing press, has paid no political price for this; on the contrary, he continues to dominate his party and Parliament).

As for the U.S., it will fight until the threats and the ghosts of 9/11 are vanquished. The American public won't accept any less.

1 posted on 09/12/2004 4:42:10 PM PDT by rang1995
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To: rang1995

should read ZEV Chafets


2 posted on 09/12/2004 4:43:34 PM PDT by rang1995
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To: rang1995

"Attacking the children of Beslan was a terrible mistake, akin to Hitler's invasion of Russia."

I think this is probably true. Russian will never be conquered, it has too many Russians in it.

However, our esteemed author is wrong to give the US pride of place in the recounting of WWII, Britain fought on alone until Pearl Harbor brought the US in, overtly.


3 posted on 09/12/2004 4:56:20 PM PDT by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: rang1995
Basically correct but for the fact that the UK was actually first on-line in WWII.
4 posted on 09/12/2004 5:17:49 PM PDT by dodger
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To: dodger

WH today announced that because of speace limitations, the prisoner facility at Gitmo would have to be closed. We inquired of our allies in the War on Terror if they had any available space, in a semi-isolated area, and President Putin volunteered a closed army base in Siberia. Transport is being arranged, and the Russians have offered to take charge of interrogations, thus frreing up many US troops with languange skills that are badly needed in Iraq at the present time..


5 posted on 09/12/2004 5:30:29 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: jocon307
Britain was the recipient of Lend-Lease until the U.S. entered the war. Some U.S. citizens trained in the R.A.F. Britain was not alone.
6 posted on 09/12/2004 5:52:25 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: ken5050
...President Putin volunteered a closed army base in Siberia. Transport is being arranged, and the Russians have offered to take charge of interrogations...

Source please. This news is too delicious without a source!

FMCDH(BITS)

7 posted on 09/12/2004 6:31:05 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: nothingnew

"Source" is the bottle of a nice merlot I had with a steak tonight..


8 posted on 09/12/2004 6:33:03 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: ken5050

Can you source this?


9 posted on 09/12/2004 6:36:59 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
10 posted on 09/13/2004 5:23:41 AM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the ping.


11 posted on 09/13/2004 5:41:39 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (REMEMBER!)
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To: TheGeezer
I know what you mean & agree with the main thrust here, but the simple truth is the Brits were in the hot war alone until Pearl Harbor.
12 posted on 09/13/2004 3:23:05 PM PDT by dodger
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To: dodger

Yeah. It's just that it gets into my craw sometimes when I hear someone say the Brits saved civilization in 1941, all by themselves...

Regards.


13 posted on 09/13/2004 3:29:47 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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