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IS THERE ANYONE AT CBS WITH ANY INTEGRITY AND COURAGE?
September 12, 2004 | Nick Vlachos

Posted on 09/12/2004 7:35:59 PM PDT by nikos1121

When asked what is the most important part of any news story, Joseph Pulitzer replied, "Accuracy, accuracy, accuracy."

I've always thought that whether it's selling newspapers, a documentary, a speech to the Rotary Club, or used cars, if you want to have viewers tomorrow try deceit, if you want to have viewers ten years from tomorrow, try honesty.

I have read about as much as anyone on the subject of the Bush National Guard memos. In fact, starting today I'll stop the reading. The excellent discussions and technical research presented here and now in several major news sources leaves very little doubt in my mind, that the memos are fakes. In fact, when you weigh the evidence it comes down very very heavy on the side that believes the memos are fakes.

More troubling to me is the fact that a major network, CBS, one that I grew up respecting, is appearing more and more like a tabloid. To put this in simple terms, consider this. CBS based this important story on:

1. Three memos from an un-named source 2. Written by a deceased person 3. That are photocopies and not originals

This alone should have raised red flags. I mean, we're not talking about a story for the STAR or the National Enquirer here, we're talking about CBS NEWS. Is this their new standard of excellence? Is this the kind of reporting that we can now expect on the CBS EVENING NEWS and 60 MINUTES?

I'm not a journalist, but I can tell you that if I had spent years in school training to be one, or years on the job as one, and I found myself in a department at some newspaper or TV station where this was going on, I would say to myself "Something is really wrong here." Maybe I might even get a ping of emotion and say, "it's time to speak up or shut up."

Which brings me to the purpose of this posting. I ask:

IS THERE ANYONE AT CBS, ANYONE WITH ANY INTEGRITY AND COURAGE, WHO WILL COME FORTH AND SAY, "COLLEAGUES, SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE. THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD OF TV JOURNALISM THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW. THESE MEMOS ARE "POSSIBLY" FAKE AND THE WAY THEY WERE REVIEWED AND PRODUCED IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO US AND THREATENS TO UNDERMINE THE WORK THAT WE ALL TRY TO DO. WE SHOULD RESPOND TO THOSE OUT THERE WHO ARE RAISING CONCERNS AND INVESTIGATE THIS MORE FULLY AND IF THE PREPONDERENCE OF EVIDENCE IS THAT THEY ARE FAKE, THEN WE SHOULD RETRACT OUR SUPPORT OF THEM."

IS THERE NOT ONE YOUNG REPORTER THERE AT CBS WHO IS TROUBLED BY THIS? IS THERE NOT ONE WHO WILL COME FORTH, KNOWING THAT THEY MAY LOSE THEIR JOB FOR DOING SO, TO SAY "THIS IS WRONG AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF A DEPARTMENT THAT OPERATES THIS WAY."

It is inconceivable to me, that no one at CBS News, (including people like Morris Schafer, Mike Wallace, etc etc.) had doubts on the validity of these memos. I can only assume that no one wanted to go up against Rather or maybe they figured that if given enough rope Rather would hang himself. Either way, this is clearly a crossroads for CBS and the people working there.

Where is that one reporter at CBS with some moral courage? I'm waiting to hear form you.

Nick A. Vlachos


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KEYWORDS: accuracy; bush; bushmemos; cbs; integrity; kerry; pulitzer; rather; rathergate
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1 posted on 09/12/2004 7:36:00 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

WARNING: Another vanity post.


2 posted on 09/12/2004 7:37:04 PM PDT by COURAGE (A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
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To: nikos1121

That would be a NO!!


3 posted on 09/12/2004 7:37:10 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: nikos1121

I'm counting on Howard Cosell!


5 posted on 09/12/2004 7:39:12 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Revolting cat!

No, there isn't.


6 posted on 09/12/2004 7:40:41 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: nikos1121

The answer to your question is a resounding NO!!!!


7 posted on 09/12/2004 7:40:54 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: nikos1121

no. no male equipment, either.


8 posted on 09/12/2004 7:41:00 PM PDT by smonk
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To: nikos1121

I would not be surprised if folks with several ounces of integrity work there. But their voices are squelched by those who "know better" for all of us.


9 posted on 09/12/2004 7:43:09 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: nikos1121

Integrity was a lost art at CBS thirty-five years ago, and it seems that the reputation will not be regained anytime soon.

Why does CBS even still have a news bureau? They report only second-hand or made-up news, and have shed no light on any recent developments that stood an impartial test of logic.


10 posted on 09/12/2004 7:43:14 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: nikos1121

I agree, this is driving me crazy. Is there not one honest person at CBS?
I also can not believe there has not been a definitive article presented by a newspaper, magazine, TV newsprogram that collects a large number of known experts in the field and has them state that these memos are not only frauds but are very poorly done frauds. No "expert" could possibly disagree with this conclusion. Noone who honestly looks at the evidence can possible reach a different conclusion. Does anyone know if such an article is being written anywhere?


11 posted on 09/12/2004 7:43:50 PM PDT by wsack
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To: nikos1121

CBS News is not known as the Completely BS News for nothing.


12 posted on 09/12/2004 7:44:03 PM PDT by punster
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To: nikos1121

If Sumner Yellowstone won't step forward, who's left?


13 posted on 09/12/2004 7:44:08 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: nikos1121

There used to be... gentleman (and Democrat) by the name of Bernard Goldberg, who worked there for 30 years... but he already "failed to have his contract renewed", and wound up writing a book called "Bias". I highly recommend it.

Qwinn


14 posted on 09/12/2004 7:44:55 PM PDT by Qwinn
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To: nikos1121

David Letterman is their brain trust.


15 posted on 09/12/2004 7:46:11 PM PDT by Xcoastie (It is more difficult to organize peace than to win a war - Aristotle)
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To: nikos1121
No.
16 posted on 09/12/2004 7:46:14 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: nikos1121
Is this their new standard of excellence?

YES.

Is this the kind of reporting that we can now expect on the CBS EVENING NEWS and 60 MINUTES?

YES.

IS THERE ANYONE AT CBS, ANYONE WITH ANY INTEGRITY AND COURAGE, WHO WILL COME FORTH AND SAY, "COLLEAGUES, SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE

NO.

IS THERE NOT ONE YOUNG REPORTER THERE AT CBS WHO IS TROUBLED BY THIS?

NO.

IS THERE NOT ONE WHO WILL COME FORTH, KNOWING THAT THEY MAY LOSE THEIR JOB FOR DOING SO, TO SAY "THIS IS WRONG AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF A DEPARTMENT THAT OPERATES THIS WAY."

NO.

Where is that one reporter at CBS with some moral courage?

Possibly in utero - a very dangerous place to be, in a Socialist world..


17 posted on 09/12/2004 7:47:03 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: nikos1121

No, they don't tolerate troublemakers. Ask Bernie Goldberg.


18 posted on 09/12/2004 7:47:15 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("And oftentimes, to win us to our harm, the instruments of darkness tell us truths")
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To: nikos1121
I think rather not!

I believe they have lost the frequency or too put it another way:

All your base are belong to us!

19 posted on 09/12/2004 7:48:13 PM PDT by kapn kuek (Terrorism for Dummies: #7. When you hear terrorist, translate to islamic terrorist.)
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To: nikos1121

in a word, no.


20 posted on 09/12/2004 7:48:53 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: nikos1121

Well I'm sorry to say that I think you will never receive a reply!!


21 posted on 09/12/2004 7:49:12 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: nikos1121

why another vanity in this forum please post this in chat
thank you


22 posted on 09/12/2004 7:49:14 PM PDT by LynnHam
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To: nikos1121

Uh...no.


23 posted on 09/12/2004 7:53:08 PM PDT by babylucas
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To: LynnHam

Good idea! Chat is very popular here.


24 posted on 09/12/2004 7:54:59 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: nikos1121
No, there is no one with any integrity left. Had there been, there would have already been an investigation or someone would have revealed where the "memos" came from. It is obvious to all that you can no longer trust ANYTHING on CBS.

They have clearly lied to us this time, and they were caught. How many other times have they lied to us and NOT been caught?

25 posted on 09/12/2004 7:55:16 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Xcoastie

26 posted on 09/12/2004 7:55:23 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Truth and liberty: The Battle Hymn of Free Republic)
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To: COURAGE
WARNING: Another vanity post.

Not defeatist enough for you?

27 posted on 09/12/2004 7:55:39 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: nikos1121

You're giving the National Enquirer a bad name. I bet if they got on the story, they'd have it resolved before anyone! Enquiring Minds Want to Know!


28 posted on 09/12/2004 7:55:49 PM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall (stewed tomatoes are just plain gross)
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To: nikos1121

NO!


29 posted on 09/12/2004 7:56:11 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: nikos1121

There's that mailroom guy and they aren't too sure about him.


30 posted on 09/12/2004 7:56:16 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: babylucas

Well you see...um...well...No


31 posted on 09/12/2004 7:56:51 PM PDT by rdl6989 (<fontface="Rather Not">)
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To: babylucas

Well you see...um...well...No


32 posted on 09/12/2004 7:56:55 PM PDT by rdl6989 (<fontface="Rather Not">)
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To: nikos1121
"IS THERE ANYONE AT CBS WITH ANY INTEGRITY AND COURAGE?"

Check with the janitorial staff.

33 posted on 09/12/2004 7:57:17 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: faithincowboys

This guy?

34 posted on 09/12/2004 7:59:02 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: nikos1121

One of the janitors there had the courage to crawl across the Arizona desert to get here so he may be your guy, but he no speak no Inglesa!


35 posted on 09/12/2004 7:59:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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Hey Dan, put some ice on that and pass the coolaid.


36 posted on 09/12/2004 7:59:59 PM PDT by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: gitmo

Yep, he's the only one. And he should leave no tp in Rather's crapper.


37 posted on 09/12/2004 8:00:08 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: nikos1121

Simple answer: NO!


38 posted on 09/12/2004 8:00:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: nikos1121
You don't understand the difference between a "whistleblower" and a "traitor"/"shill"

When someone from the inside speaks out against a right-wing organization, they are a "whistleblower"

When someone from the inside speaks out against a left-wing organization, they are treasonous or they are shills for some rich right-wing financier

It's in the dictionary, really

39 posted on 09/12/2004 8:02:41 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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IS THERE NOT ONE YOUNG REPORTER THERE AT CBS WHO IS TROUBLED BY THIS? IS THERE NOT ONE WHO WILL COME FORTH, KNOWING THAT THEY MAY LOSE THEIR JOB FOR DOING SO, TO SAY "THIS IS WRONG AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF A DEPARTMENT THAT OPERATES THIS WAY."

You should check out the post about the woman who claims to have been fired for having a sKerry sticker on her car window.

40 posted on 09/12/2004 8:03:03 PM PDT by The Real Deal (The United States has the best fight forces in the world!)
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To: nikos1121

A flat NO


41 posted on 09/12/2004 8:04:58 PM PDT by Fast1
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When asked what is the most important part of any news story, Joseph Pulitzer replied, "Accuracy, accuracy, accuracy."

I've always thought that whether it's selling newspapers, a documentary,

Once Michael Moore got awards for Bowling for Columbine, a "documentary" later found to be filled with falsehoods, and received accolades for his "documentary" making up the Presidents "thoughts", I knew there was no legitimacy remaining on the left.

42 posted on 09/12/2004 8:06:55 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: COURAGE
WARNING: Another vanity post.

At least it's not another WHINITY post. FReepers are feeling a little pumped up these past few days, deservedly so. You got a problem with that? :o)

43 posted on 09/12/2004 8:07:36 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: All

anyone have Dan Blather's email at CBS?


44 posted on 09/12/2004 8:07:50 PM PDT by jyro
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IS THERE ANYONE AT CBS WITH ANY INTEGRITY AND COURAGE?

Is this a rhetorical question?

45 posted on 09/12/2004 8:08:43 PM PDT by WileyC
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I know nobody expects anything from the likes of Ed Bradley, Leslie Stahl, or Don Hewitt, but I am exteremly disappointed by Mike Wallace and Morley Safer. I always thought that those two guys, shameless liberal Democrats though they may be, at least had an old-fashioned sense of journalistic integrity, honesty, and decency. Their silence is deafening.


46 posted on 09/12/2004 8:10:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DaveMSmith

Great picture. Rather and the CBS brain trust.


47 posted on 09/12/2004 8:12:04 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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To: nikos1121

I doubt it if they want to hold on to their jobs.

CBS is a fascist organization just like so many media outlets today.


48 posted on 09/12/2004 8:13:11 PM PDT by eleni121 (Not all college profs are left wing unionist whackos --but most are.)
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To: COURAGE
WARNING: Another vanity post.

I gather that this post somehow pissed you off.

Too bad, so sad.

Like your little "WARNING" meant something to someone.

Go to bed now.

It will be ok in the morning.

The "staff" will give you a full report on any further 'vanity' posts.

Feel better?

LVM

49 posted on 09/12/2004 8:13:32 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (John Kerry says he has changed his mind about all those NO votes in the Senate.)
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To: nikos1121

We've all been mad at CBS this week. But the sad thing is that CBS is no worse than ABC, NBC, CNN, or a dozen other major news organizations. They are all riddled with corruption.


50 posted on 09/12/2004 8:16:38 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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