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Can Islam change?
New Statesman ^ | Sept. 2004 | Ziauddin Sardar's

Posted on 09/12/2004 9:40:14 PM PDT by tbird5

Beslan and 9/11 are leading millions of Muslims to search their souls. Even clerics now question the harshest traditional laws and look for a more humane interpretation of their faith.

The Muslim world is changing. Three years after the atrocity of 9/11, it may be in the early stages of a reformation, albeit with a small "r". From Morocco to Indonesia, people are trying to develop a more contemporary and humane interpretation of Islam, and some countries are undergoing major transformations.

Much of the attention is focused on reformulating the sharia, the centuries-old body of Islamic law deeply embedded in a medieval psychology. The sharia is state law in many Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan and the Sudan. For many conservative and radical Muslims, the sharia is Islam: it cannot be changed, and must be imposed in exactly the shape it was first formulated in the ninth century. Since 9/11, there has been a seismic shift in this perception. More and more Muslims now perceive Islamic law to be dangerously obsolete. And these include the ulema, the religious scholars and clerics, who have a tremendous hold on the minds of the Muslim masses.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims; napalminthemorning
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1 posted on 09/12/2004 9:40:15 PM PDT by tbird5
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To: tbird5
Muhammadanism Sucks
2 posted on 09/12/2004 9:41:27 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: tbird5
"....people are trying to develop a more contemporary and humane interpretation of Islam.."

It's pretty difficult to develop a "humane interpretation" of "..kill them (non-moslems) wherever you find them!" (Sura 9:5)

The problem is not one of interpretation, it is one of ESSENCE!

3 posted on 09/12/2004 9:44:26 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: tbird5

Religions can and do change.


4 posted on 09/12/2004 9:45:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
"Religions can and do change.'

Islam will too. No choice. It must or perish.

5 posted on 09/12/2004 9:52:56 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: CWOJackson

It's too late for this one. The risk of nuclear or biological terror is too great to permit it the conditions for a peaceful reformation. A few apostates getting more press does not a reformation make.


6 posted on 09/12/2004 9:54:52 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: tbird5
NO.

Wait. there is one possible change that would improve islam: if all its adherents assume room temperature.

7 posted on 09/12/2004 9:54:55 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: thoughtomator

That would be surprising information to a lot of countries that are Islamic.


8 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:08 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ApesForEvolution

Perhaps it does. But since the alternatives to change in Islam are either eternal conflict or extermination, I'm very much in favor of internal reform.


9 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:37 PM PDT by Restorer (They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
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To: Publius6961
if all its adherents assume room temperature.

Or 10,000 degrees.

10 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: CWOJackson

There are a lot of things common to the average Westerner which would be 'surprising information' to Islamic countries... like the use of toilet paper or the fact that there are Americans in Baghdad.


11 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: thoughtomator

LOL! Just goes to show that all countries have narrow minded people with no clue, even this enlighted one.


12 posted on 09/12/2004 10:02:51 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Well, that's ok, we accept you for who you are ;)


13 posted on 09/12/2004 10:03:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: thoughtomator

They may not know how to use TP but sure know an AK.


14 posted on 09/12/2004 10:04:14 PM PDT by endthematrix (STAND BY........New Tag Line In Progress..........STAND BY......New Tag Line in)
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To: thoughtomator

Sorry, you're going to have to accept who, or what, you are before you will ever have a clue about anyone else.


15 posted on 09/12/2004 10:05:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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Well, I was giving you a graceful way out, but seeing as you're not taking it, what makes you the expert on what Islamic countries think?


16 posted on 09/12/2004 10:07:13 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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"Well, I was giving you a graceful way out..."

I think if I were to need consultation on anything dealing with grace it wouldn't be from you. Please, do not stop demonstrating your ignorance on my behalf. I find it far too amusing.

17 posted on 09/12/2004 10:09:05 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Publius6961
Then, yes, islam can change. And I'm here to help that change. Forever, and ever, Amen.

/john

18 posted on 09/12/2004 10:10:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Paleo Conservative
10,000 degrees...

BWAHAHA!!

[Damn good thing these PC CINOs weren't in charge in WWII or we'd all be speaking German]

Nazis civilians were just as guilty as the guys who pulled the trigger. So it is w islamism. Islam is NO religion. It is a cult.

19 posted on 09/12/2004 10:10:24 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

it will perish.
along with the old gods of norse mythology and the baals of old... only the oddballs and the curious still pray to Odin.
Ashtarthe may be the romantic goddess of literature and movies betimes, but ultimately, nobody really believes that crap.

Of course there are raelians, who believe in wierd stuff, just like the hale-bopp folks... but those are not really believed by rational majorities of any consequence.
Dead religions, kook religions and religious fundamentalists of all stripes are passing off the scene.

Fundamentalist Islam is clearly in it's death throes.
Unfortunately, the world's weapons that may fall into it's hands are so vast now, that their death throes may kill a billion or two of us in the long run...


20 posted on 09/12/2004 10:11:01 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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