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Live Thread: Kerry on Imus (starts 7:29 EST 09/15/04)
Imus Radio Show ^ | 09/15/04 | Don Imus

Posted on 09/15/2004 4:23:20 AM PDT by xm177e2

Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry will be the guest at 7:29 am eastern. Senator Kerry has a lot of convincing to do, beginning with the I-Man.. whose support has waned in recent weeks. Despite several polls to the contrary, both campaigns acknowledge a 5-6 point lead for President Bush. Many analysts say it's a result of a post convention bump, and the GOP's ability to make the focus of the election national security and Kerry's record. The challenge for the Senator is to now put the emphasis back on domestic issues while separating the War in Iraq from the War on Terrorism. Can he turn the tide while continuing to play defense? Can he turn all the anti-Bush sentiment into a spark that ignites the Democratic base? Does he think it will ultimately come down to the debates? Will he finally be able to clearly frame his views on Iraq? Is John Edwards the VP candidate he thought he would be? John Kerry has his work cut out.. but, he can take a big step forward on Wednesday morning when/IF he answers the tough questions from IMUS.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: groundhogday; hidingfromthemedia; imus; kerry; spiderhole
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To: Mo1

So much for the Tiffany Network.


401 posted on 09/15/2004 6:09:28 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: leadpenny

2 words that scare the pajama pants off me...

Madelaine Albright.

even stupid Imus said she was a mistake...


402 posted on 09/15/2004 6:09:55 AM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: mewzilla
In light of all the sacrifices our allies have made, I can't understand why this wasn't a bigger deal on your side of the pond.

Much of the media in Europe wants Kerry to win too.

Regards, Ivan

403 posted on 09/15/2004 6:11:39 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

He's planting the seeds for when he has to drop out of the race due to some kind of health problem!


404 posted on 09/15/2004 6:11:47 AM PDT by Savagemom
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To: kabar
"...Stump speech and smear tactics..."

You are right Kabar, this was a stump speech masquerading as an interview. No doubt, Kaplan or others told Imus to do this. He is too smart not to have asked the killer questions. Probably, Kaplan or his designates discussed the format with the Kerry Campaign.

The whole idea is to come up with a way Kerry can begin to have interactions, if not press conferences, with the press. Ever since the arrival of the Swifties Kerry has been unable to take questions. Now he can.

How so, you ask? Easy. Sometime soon he will begin deflecting the Swifties by saying they are proven liars and he has discussed this before. The technique he will use is a weak one, but one frequently used by politicians. He will assume the conclusion and change the argument to your having to prove him wrong. Since no one can disprove a negative, you can't do it; hence, it looks like he won the argument.

Assuming the conclusion is being done with at least the following: (1)We lost the Iraq war; (2)There were no weapons of mass destruction; (3)The Swifties (all 250 of them) are liars; (4)And, President Bush is a coward, a liar and a failure. You can probably come up with better and more examples, but these will suffice.

The reason assuming the conclusion thesis is right on is that Imus has done this before. Remember, President Clinton came to Imus after the Miss Arkansas imbroglio and longterm affair surfaced. Shortly, after the Imus interview Clinton was able to say that this was old news, he answered it and,yes, he had had problems in his marriage. Some years after the election he admitted one transgression with the lady: now, the long term affair is the subject of bad jokes and President Clinton has even achieved a certain wicked fascination with his sex life that is never really condemned nor condoned. Such is how a good PR person can do.

Senator Kerry will be a wickedly effective debater. He uses words like levers to get him where he wants to go rather than expressing beliefs, policies or positions. The President will by necessity have to face this. My suggestion is keep everything simple, factual and easily defended and don't focus on his "assumptions of conclusions" but as to the actual facts he believes and trusts.

I thought the "flipflop" approach was good because it took political positions and transferred them to character problems. It is even worse than I thought. Senator Kerry believes little or nothing of his current positions. What positions and beliefs he has are hidden. As according to the wise savant, Marilyn Monroe, he faces the certainty that, "...if you tell more than one lie you become confused.." Marilyn surely is describing Senator Kerry.

PS: If you think Imus is not being directed, remember at the National Press Conference where Imus ridiculed President Clinton's morals. This speech was vetted by Kaplan who later denied vetting it: it took Kaplan returning to MSNBC to alleviate the quarrel.

405 posted on 09/15/2004 6:29:41 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: ReleaseTheHounds; DaveMSmith; leadpenny
leadpenny, please stop defending Imus... He really is pathetic

and

Imus is a useful idiot.

An idiot would not have gotten Kerry to admit that he has no plan for Iraq and that he can't explain why all of his military records are not released.

It might have sounded to you like Imus was sucking up to Kerry. So what? I don't care what it sounds like, I care what gets said.

406 posted on 09/15/2004 6:29:57 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2

bump

I've taped it and will buzz through it a little later.
I 'm unable to listen to the whole Imus, just select portions.
Not to mention the horror of trying to listen to sKerry.


407 posted on 09/15/2004 6:34:54 AM PDT by meema
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To: xm177e2
What I mean by useful idiot is -

idiot: I don't agree with his personal positions (Rumsfeld is a war criminal, etc) - that is slander an totally out of line with a war on.

useful: he got Kerry talking.

I don't care how they get the confession out of this treasonous criminal

408 posted on 09/15/2004 6:36:51 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Providence Has Favored Our Undertakings)
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To: DaveMSmith
idiot: I don't agree with his personal positions

That's not very nice.

409 posted on 09/15/2004 6:40:15 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: OldFriend; mabelkitty
Mitchell is rumored to be the new head of Disney.

Mitchell replaced Eisner as Chairman of the Board several months ago after the last shareholders meeting. The "rebel" group led by Roy Disney, Walt's nephew, managed to get a huge vote of no-confidence in Eisner, but not enough to outright oust him. Eisner is still President and CEO. He has stated that he will retire end of next year and has suggested that his #1 lieutenant is his choice to replace him.

There is a growing move to approach Steve Jobs, have him take over and merge Disney and Pixar. I gather that Roy Disney's group has been open to that. Jobs is a loyal Democrat, so that would appeal to Mitchell.

410 posted on 09/15/2004 6:44:07 AM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers
Imus just said that he is voting for Kerry. He also said that Rumsfeld is a "war criminal" and that Wolfowitz should be "executed"!!

Imus is a traitor, a coward, and an antisemite.

He is a traitor because he has taken sides against the United States of America during war time.

He is a coward because he called for the execution of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, but stopped short of calling for violence against the President and members of his Cabinet, although that is clearly his sentiment, knowing he would be legally sanctionable.

He is an antisemite because he just could not help himself with "Wolfowitz." The fact that Secretary Wolfowitz is Jewish, serving in a Republican administration, and friendly to Israel, tipped his boat.

Imus belongs with his father Haman, who also plotted gallows for Jew much like Sec. Wolfowitz. We know from the Bible how that ended.

411 posted on 09/15/2004 6:45:15 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: xm177e2
Nice?

Don Imus after Kerry interview:

-- He is probably going to vote for Kerry
-- He thinks Rumsfeld is a "war criminal"
-- He thinks Wolfowitz and people like him "should be executed"

You really don't want to know what I REALLY think of him. freerepublic.com is a peer of Don Imus - an equal peer. He has free speech.. and so do I :-)

412 posted on 09/15/2004 6:50:05 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Providence Has Favored Our Undertakings)
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To: DaveMSmith
He thinks Wolfowitz and people like him "should be executed"

Imus means the Jews who don't bow to him. He is just like Haman.

413 posted on 09/15/2004 6:51:32 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

And they call us racists, bigots, Nazis and facists. Hah!


414 posted on 09/15/2004 6:55:21 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Providence Has Favored Our Undertakings)
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To: DaveMSmith

I would like to see the Justice Dept. hold Imus to account for calling for the execution of Deputy Secretary of Defense Wolfowitz during war time. Don Imus is a traitor, a coward, and an antisemite.


415 posted on 09/15/2004 6:57:18 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: shrinkermd

I agree with you. Kerry uses key words and phrases vetted through internal polls and focus groups. He will use that same tactic in the debates. He will also throw in a personal zinger and an outrageous statement to distract Bush. I suspect the MSM debate moderators will leak the questions to the Kerry camp. They are no longer biased, but partisan.


416 posted on 09/15/2004 6:58:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: af_vet_1981
Has he issued a 'fatwa' calling for his assignation?
417 posted on 09/15/2004 6:59:54 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Providence Has Favored Our Undertakings)
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To: xm177e2

Kerry: Viet Nam, Viet Nam, Viet Nam,
Viet Nam, zzzZZZzzzZZZ
yah, whatever


418 posted on 09/15/2004 7:06:04 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: af_vet_1981

Kerry locked up the drug-addled, shock-jock, idiot vote this AM. Good for him.


419 posted on 09/15/2004 7:06:57 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: greasepaint

My prediction: first guy who mentions
in the debates:
Viet Nam, or prisoner abuse --> loses


420 posted on 09/15/2004 7:13:04 AM PDT by greasepaint
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