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Live Thread: Kerry on Imus (starts 7:29 EST 09/15/04)
Imus Radio Show ^ | 09/15/04 | Don Imus

Posted on 09/15/2004 4:23:20 AM PDT by xm177e2

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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
HUH? He went to war and was unaware of the Geneva Convention? As an officer?

Your on to something here. Not only was he a trained officer in the Naval Reserve Officers Training he was a Yale Grad who was a war protester?? How can he graduate Yale during Vietnam and not know about the Geneva Convention or the Nuremburg Trials?? He probably wrote papers on them. He never committed atrocities w/o knowing they were wrong.

Pray for W and Our Troops

421 posted on 09/15/2004 7:13:29 AM PDT by bray (Some men have skeletons in their closets, some have killing fields!!)
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To: JusPasenThru

On America's bravest
KERRY: The president has alienated some of the most important allies of the United States of America. I mean, I understand you just went over to Walter Reed; I've been over there, and I know it had an impact on you. I'll tell you, when I met those kids over there and you see some of them with their arms grafted to their legs and they're, you know, going through six months and a year of dealing with a wound that came about because they don't have the armored Humvees over there, because some of these kids are over there without the state-of-the-art armor. I mean, this president sent people to war without the state-of-the-art equipment, without the kinds of allied support, without the kinds of judgments that should have been made beforehand. He says he miscalculated. My God, the miscalculation was ignoring the advice of General Shinseki, ignoring the advice of the military advisers. I said a year ago, Donald Rumsfeld should have been fired. He should resign. The Abu Ghraib prison scandal is not the reason. The reason is the most serious miscalculation in the going to war and the sending of young American men and women into harm's way in a long time that I can remember, perhaps since Vietnam. And I'll tell you, there were five widows of 9/11 who stood up yesterday, some of whom voted for George Bush last time, and they said they're not going to vote for him this time, and they can't vote for him, because he pushed and fought and stonewalled the 9/11 Commission and fought against trying to find out what happened. I don't believe he's taken the proactive steps to make America safer; I will.

IMUS: They can't get this equipment for these troops if people like you won't vote for the funding though.

KERRY: We did vote for the funding. We voted for the funding. I voted for the largest defense budgets in the history of our country. And I voted— this is long after the war, that $87 billion vote. The war had started. These people were sent over there without the equipment and they still don't have the equipment. And I've met families across America who are struggling, you know, they go out and they hold a bake auction or they do some charity effort in order to buy the armor on the Internet, send it to their kids. That's not the way you send young Americans into war.


422 posted on 09/15/2004 7:56:15 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

But someone posted here copies of his Senate vote and it was against the budget.


423 posted on 09/15/2004 7:58:27 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NavyCanDo

>>>KERRY: We did vote for the funding. We voted for the funding. I voted for the largest defense budgets in the history of our country.


Kerry's Voting history:

Defense & Nat'l Security

Votes to Cut Defense Spending by 2% (S. Con. Res. 29, CQ Vote #49, Apr 25, 1991)

Votes to Slash Over $3 Billion from Defense (H.R. 2707, CQ Vote #182, Sep 10, 1991)

Votes to Cut $6 Billion from Defense (S. Con. Res. 106, CQ Vote #73, Apr 9, 1992)

Votes Against Military Pay Raise (S. Con. Res. 18, CQ Vote #73, Mar 24, 1993)

Kerry Introduces Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs:

Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews

Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one

Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force

Terminate the Navy’s coastal mine-hunting ship program

Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces
in one year.

(S.1163, Introduced Jun 24, 1993)

Introduced an amendment to SLASH defense spending by 4 billion dollars and Intelligence spending by about 1 billion. Senator Inouye, Very Liberal (D) from Hawaii had the following comments: Amendment 1452, 1994, Senate Floor



The amendment offered by Senator Kerry would reduce the 1994 appropriations for national defense by about $4 billion. I believe the Members of this body should recall that Congress has already reduced DOD's budget in 1994 by more than $18 billion. Moreover, in each and every year of the past 10 years, Congress has cut the funds provided for defense. We have already cut defense spending drastically. ...
Now if I may comment on another section that reduces funding for intelligence programs, and this amendment would reduce such funding by about $1 billion. Madam President, the intelligence budget has already been cut by almost 18 percent over the past 2 years. An additional reduction of $1 billion would severely hamper the intelligence community's ability to provide decisionmakers and policymakers with information on matters of vital concern to this country.

These issues include nuclear proliferation by North Korea--this has been on the front pages for the past 3 or 4 months--peacekeeping efforts in Bosnia and Somalia, as well as terrorist threats against American citizens and property. ...

At a time like this, is it prudent to reduce funds for the very intelligence programs which we need to identify these targets? This amendment would do that. It would blind our pilots. Is this the time to cut the satellite programs that give our forces warning of attacks? I hope that we will keep this in mind... If we do and this amendment passes, then we are putting blindfolds over our pilots' eyes. ...




Voted NO on the Defend America Act of 1996. This bill stated that it would be U.S. policy to deploy by the end of 2003 a national missile defense system that (1) is capable of providing a highly effective defense of U.S. territory against limited, unauthorized or accidental ballistic missile attack; (2) will be augmented over time to provide a layered defense against larger and more sophisticated ballistic missile threats; and (3) does not feature an offensive-only form of deterrence. Newsmax

Introduces a bill to SLASH Department of Defense Funding by 6.5 Billion (S. 1580, Introduced Feb 29, 1996) (No one was willing to co-sponsor this bill!)

Voted YES to freeze defense spending for 7 Years, slashing over $34 Billion from defense. (S. Con. Res. 13, CQ Vote #181, May 24, 1995)

Voted NO on Strengthening of the trade embargo against Cuba. Conference Report on H.R. 927; Bill H.R. 927 ; vote number 1996-22 on Mar 5, 1996

Voted NO on considering deploying National Missile Defense, and amending ABM Treaty. Bill S 1635 ; vote number 1996-157 on Jun 4, 1996

Voted YES on banning chemical weapons. Resolution of ratification of the Chemical (Comprehensive) Weapons (Convention) Ban; Bill S. Res. 75 ; vote number 1997-51 on Apr 24, 1997

In 1997, the conservative Center for Security Policy awarded Kerry a score of 0 out of a possible 100 on 14 key defense votes – including funding for space-based laser programs. Newsmax

Voted YES on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions. Motion to table the Lugar Amdt #3156.; Bill S. 2159 ; vote number 1998-201 on Jul 15, 1998

Voted NO on deploying missile defense as soon as possible. Bill S 1873 ; vote number 1998-262 on Sep 9, 1998

Voted YES on allowing another round of military base closures. Bill S.1059 ; vote number 1999-147 on May 26, 1999

Voted NO on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion. H.R. 2606 Conference Report; Bill H.R. 2606 ; vote number 1999-312 on Oct 6, 1999

Voted YES on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; Bill Treaty Document #105-28 ; vote number 1999-325 on Oct 13, 1999

B-2 Stealth Bomber: Repeatedly Votes to Cut or Eliminate B-2 Stealth Bomber

(H.R. 3072, CQ Vote #203, 9/26/89)
(H.R. 3072, CQ Vote #310, 11/18/89)
(S. 2884, CQ Vote #208, 8/2/90)
(S. 2884, CQ Vote #209, 8/2/90)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #174, 8/1/91)
(H.R. 2521, CQ Vote #206, 9/25/91)
(S. 2403, CQ Vote #85, 5/6/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #216,9/18/92)

(S. 2182, CQ Vote #179, 7/1/94)


Missile Defense: Repeatedly Votes to Cut or Eliminate Missile Defense


(S. 1507, CQ Vote #168, 7/31/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #171, 8/1/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #172, 8/1/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #173, 8/1/91)
(H.R. 2521, CQ Vote #207, 9/25/91)
(S. 2403, CQ Vote #85, 5/6/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #182, 8/7/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #214, 9/17/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #215, 9/17/92)
(S. 1298, CQ Vote #251, 10/9/93)
(S. Con. Res. 63, CQ Vote #64, 3/22/94)
(S. 1026, CQ Vote #354, 8/3/95)
(S. 1087, CQ Vote #384, 8/10/95)
(S. 1745, CQ Vote #160, 6/19/96)
(S. 1873, CQ Vote #131:, 5/13/98)
(S. 1873, CQ Vote #262, 9/9/98)
(S 1635, CQ Vote #157, 6/4/96)
(S. 2549, CQ Vote #178, 7/13/00)


424 posted on 09/15/2004 8:01:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NavyCanDo

The Transcript can be read here.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6009011/


425 posted on 09/15/2004 8:03:30 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: xm177e2
Well stated. Imus got Kerry to admit to some very damaging statements. Kerry made a fool of himself once again.

Someone on this thread actually called Imus an "antisemite" because he criticized Wolfowitz. That is nonsense. Let's be honest. After Wolfowittz's embarrassing testimony where, among others, he didn't even know how many of our military men and women were killed in Iraq, he revealed his total incompetence.

426 posted on 09/15/2004 8:18:43 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: JusPasenThru

Yes. Imus is alive. It's Kerry that's been dead for years.


427 posted on 09/15/2004 8:27:10 AM PDT by willyboyishere ( i)
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To: Calpernia

Excellent summary of his voting record. Someone did a lot of leg work in tracking down the exact references in the record! Great work.


428 posted on 09/15/2004 8:50:56 AM PDT by Blue Eyes (When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore.)
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To: Blue Eyes

Someone here actually has scanned in docs of his Senate record. I can't remember which freeper that was though.


429 posted on 09/15/2004 8:54:15 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NavyCanDo
KERRY: We did vote for the funding. We voted for the funding.

Kerry uses that WE pretty loosely, doesn't he? Just another lie, we, we, we.

Or, is it oui, oui, oui?

430 posted on 09/15/2004 8:54:20 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: snooker
Investing in communism.

Off-topic, I'm sorry, but have you noticed that Human Resources departments now think they run the company? You reminded me of this new thesis of mine because I was thinking that under socialism it would make sense that the HR departments would run things. Socialism is really communism with private ownership under government control.

431 posted on 09/15/2004 9:08:55 AM PDT by johnb838 (Jesus loves the little children. All the children of the world.)
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To: johnb838

It's the laws which are doing this. No company can afford to get into a fix with the law over personnel. Sad but welcome to the new reality. The dims want it this way, just ask them. Power to the worker and all that rot gut crap.


432 posted on 09/15/2004 10:14:54 AM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: maryz
didn't know that "free-fire zone" didn't mean "shoot at anything that moves";

The way O'Neill explained it, Elmo Zumwalt Jr was O'Neill's friend, and he told O'Neill that his pop Elmo Sr. thought that Kerry was a big pain in the butt because he was killing too many civilians and causing trouble for the command.

I don't recall if I heard O'Neill say that somewhere, or it was written in Unfit, but he definitely said it.

I think that's why O'Neill and company go to such great lengths to explain "free fire zone." Kerry thought it meant "kill everyone."

433 posted on 09/15/2004 10:46:37 AM PDT by angkor
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