Posted on 09/15/2004 9:40:56 AM PDT by Pikamax
Tennessee. Gorons. Chris Leheinous. Case Closed.
I'm with you on this one!
I've posted links this morning to the thread that Bob Krumm started last night in hopes of sparking an interest.
Gore is in on it also. He lives in the same area as Tuke.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216183/posts?q=1&&page=95#95
Did you listen or find any feedback on the show?
Did Tuke even show up?
TIA
Lehane was also the first one to show up the night the forgery issue was raised - he claimed it was the first he had heard about it (on "Nightline").
Interesting.....
But how did he get Ben Barnes to lie about when he was Lt. Governor? Bush was in TANG in 1968 - Barnes wasn't Lt. Governor until 1969. Danny in Cambodia, anyone?
The discovery that the documents are forged has thrown the whole strategy off. Even so, Kitty Kelly managed to get it out in one of her interviews.
The docs were never about missing an exam. The Dems were more intersted in getting the suggestion out there that W. skipped it because he was on drugs.
What do you think of this:
Kitty Kelley is also pushing the DNC talking point that Bush didn't take the physical to avoid a drug test. These forged memos alter the timeline to make their story seem credible. Also, that would explain why they were put out on 60 minutes last week. Have 4-5 days of news cycle about Bush not obeying a direct order and being given special treatment. Then when the Kitty Kelley book comes out, use these memos to change to an attack that he wasn't just disobeying a direct order, he was running away from a drug test because he was doing cocaine while in the guard.
To repeat, the whole purpose of these memos is to give credence to the Bush was doing cocaine in the National Guard lies that the DNC wants to use to either demoralize Bush's base, or force Bush to go into great detail on all of Bush's young and irresponsible days.
In reality, in 1972, there was no regular drug testing implemented as part of the annual flight status physical, from what I've heard.
bingo. you beat me to the post.
Ping.
Here's a little quote from a DNC photo spread:
On April 17, 2004 approximately 100 persons gathered on the courthouse lawn in Crossville, TN for a Kerry for President rally. Speakers included Anna York, youngest Kerry delegate from TN to the upcoming national convention; Anna Belle Clement O'Brien, sister of Frank and aunt of Bob; and Robert Tuke, Nashville attorney, veteran, and a top leader in the Tennessee Kerry for President campaign.
He was there alright!
The exchange starts at 56:18 into the show
http://www.thepublicforum.org/tbrt/listen.html
Here's a list of Tuke's associates in the party in TN.
http://www.davidsondemocrats.com/staff.htm
Thanks.
July 26, 2004
A Civil S.O.B.?
Civility was the watchword among conventioneers on a day when TV networks were playing video of Teresa Heinz Kerrry telling a reporter to "shove it."
But Tennessee delegate Bob Tuke, a Nashville lawyer and head of the state's Veterans for Kerry group, stuck to his stump speech that at least flirts with name-calling directed toward Bush.
"I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of that S.O.B.," declared Tuke to the assembled Tennessee delegation, bringing a loud round of applause.
"Excuse me," he then quickly added. "I'm not being profane. That's a son of a Bush."
That's real cute, Bob.
July 26, 2004
A Civil S.O.B.?
Civility was the watchword among conventioneers on a day when TV networks were playing video of Teresa Heinz Kerrry telling a reporter to "shove it."
But Tennessee delegate Bob Tuke, a Nashville lawyer and head of the state's Veterans for Kerry group, stuck to his stump speech that at least flirts with name-calling directed toward Bush.
"I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of that S.O.B.," declared Tuke to the assembled Tennessee delegation, bringing a loud round of applause.
"Excuse me," he then quickly added. "I'm not being profane. That's a son of a Bush."
That's real cute, Bob.
From the Kerry Blog site:
A Marine Speaks Out
Conservative columnist Mona Charen had faint praise for John Kerry's service in Vietnam in a recent column, grudgingly admitting that he "earned a number of medals and citations when many of his contemporaries were fleeing to Canada..." John's supporters in the veterans' community have always been very sensitive to anyone who shortchanges or denegrates those who served in Vietnam, and former Marine and Vietnam veteran Robert Tuke sent us this passionate reply to Charen:
To the Editor:
I support Sen. John Kerry for President. Therefore, I was disappointed to see the Opinion by Mona Charen recently published in The Tennessean. My disappointment turned to dismay and then to disgust as I read her disjointed condemnation of Sen. Kerry's position on the Iraq war and her disparagement of his Vietnam service.
I too am a Vietnam veteran, a Marine, and for Mona Charen to dismiss Kerry's service with a terse acknowledgment that he "earned a number of medals and citations when many of his contemporaries were fleeing to Canada" is an insult to him and to every combat veteran.
His "number of medals" includes a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. The first two are among our nation's highest decorations for valor, and the Purple Heart is earned only by being wounded in combat. Kerry earned his decorations by serving two tours of duty in heavy combat, on one occasion courageously leading an assault upon a superior enemy force that had ambushed his swift boat. I have no doubt he saved his crew by doing so. Perhaps if Mona had ever been in an ambush or had ever spoken to anyone who has, she might not have been so flippant about Kerrys service. Perhaps she also might not be so quick to support a president who avoided service rather than having the courage to volunteer for it.
Even more disturbing is her suggestion that one cannot be proud of one's service in Vietnam unless one believes the war itself had unassailable merit. Almost every combat veteran I know is proud of his or her service. How one feels about the war is an entirely different matter.
Perhaps Mona could have asked a veteran how it felt to come home from a difficult and dangerous experience only to learn that our own government had information, later published in the Pentagon Papers, which indicated that our goals and our strategy were both perhaps fatally flawed from the beginning. Sound familiar? It was that disappointment, indeed betrayal, which caused many veterans to join the VVAW, including John Kerry.
Most of us, however, did nothing, except to withdraw from the debate and sometimes, tragically,l from society.
Most of us only began to "come home" when the
Vietnam Veterans' Memorial was dedicated in Washington, DC. Even then, one could not escape a sense of betrayal, as Interior Secretary James Watt opposed the Memorial because he did not favor its design. I wonder if Mona knows that the Memorial was conceived, designed, built and paid for under the direction of the Vietnam Veterans of America, which John Kerry helped found. Not one penny of U.S. Government money went into it.
I am pleased that our Iraq war veterans are being
treated better by the public than were Vietnam veterans upon our return, but the Bush administration and the Congress continued to betray all veterans in their underfunding of veterans' health needs, retirements, and disability entitlements. That is an issue Sen. Kerry has made central in his campaign, as he articulated in his speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars a couple of weeks ago. Mona Charen is totally wrong about John Kerry and his views on war. Worse, she has insulted the very people who fight these wars in her attack on Sen. Kerry. She should be ashamed.
Semper Fidelis,
Robert D. Tuke
rtuke@tntlaw.net
"I am pleased that our Iraq war veterans are being
treated better by the public than were Vietnam veterans upon our return, but the Bush administration and the Congress continued to betray all veterans in their underfunding of veterans' health needs, retirements, and disability entitlements. That is an issue Sen. Kerry has made central in his campaign, as he articulated in his speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars a couple of weeks ago. Mona Charen is totally wrong about John Kerry and his views on war. Worse, she has insulted the very people who fight these wars in her attack on Sen. Kerry. She should be ashamed."
No, Mr. Tuke. JFingK insulted the Troops like none before or after him ever have or will.
(been looking for the email address, thanks)
| Fake Memo | What is says | Why was it created |
| May 4,1972 | Orders Bush to get his annual physical within 10 days | To change the timeline for Bush getting his annual physical, which wasn't actually due until the end of July. Create the impression that Bush left in a hurried panic for Alabama to avoid drug testing |
| May 19, 1972 | Phone call from Bush asking about getting transfered to Alabama because he wants to run a campaign. Followed by discussion of getting the physical later if he decided to keep flying | Show that Bush left town on May 15, called his commander after the fact to see if he could transfer to Alabama. Also, create a confirmation that Killian was aware and ok with the fact that Bush missed the physical. If the order from May 4 was disobeyed, you would expect some sort of official reprimand or follow-up. Since there is nothing in the record, the May 19 memo provides an answer. |
| August 1,1972 | Bush suspended from flight status due to failure to perform to USAF/TexANG standards and failute to meet annual physical examination as ordered. Plus order of the creation of a flight review board IAW AFM35-13. | Make it look like there was something more to the suspension of flight status than just missing the physical. Create the impression that a flight review board was ordered, so that they can then ask why Bush has not released this document (ie, there must be a cover-up). It must show that Bush was suspended for using drugs |
| August 18, 1972 | CYA Memo about being pressured to sugar-coat the Bush review. Mentions something about backdating information | Perhaps to show that there was some pressure from higher up for a coverup. However, I wonder what record would need to be "backdated" in order to fit in with the subsequent conspiracy theory that they plan to release. Perhaps we will find out, or perhaps they will abandon the next phase of the plan now that the forgeries have been uncovered |
Comments?
From Internat1onal Adopt10n Att0rneys website
ROBERT D. TUKE
Robert D. Tuke is a member of the law firm of Trauger, Ney & Tuke in Nashville, Tennessee. As a special part of his practice, Mr. Tuke devotes significant time and energy to adoption law. In addition to having represented hundreds of parents in their adoptions, Mr. Tuke served on the Tennessee General Assembly's Adoption Law Study Commission for three years and helped draft the complete revision of Tennessee's adoption code, enacted in 1996. Mr. Tuke serves on the Board of Trustees of the American Academy of Adoption Attorneys and is its President, serving from April, 2002-April 2003. He also serves on the Board of Directors of Nashville's Family and Children's Service, the Board of Advocates of Miriam's Promise adoption agency, and as Middle and West Tennessee Counsel for Holston Home for Children. He authored the Adoption chapter in Wests Tennessee Practice (West Pub. 2nd Ed. 2002).
Mr. Tuke was born in Rochester, New York, on December 5, 1947. He received his education from the University of Virginia (B.A., with distinction, 1969) and Vanderbilt University (J.D., Order of the Coif, 1976), where he was Editor-in-Chief of the Vanderbilt Law Review, and a Patrick Wilson Merit Scholar. Mr. Tuke was admitted to the Tennessee Bar in 1976 and is a member of the Nashville, Tennessee and American Bar Associations, and a Fellow of the Nashville Bar Foundation. Mr. Tuke is an Adjunct Professor at Vanderbilt University School of Law, a faculty member of the Practicing Law Institute and General Counsel for Meharry Medical College. He is listed in Best Lawyers in America (Woodward-White, 1995-2002) and Who's Who in American Law and Who's Who in America (Marquis, 1994-2002).
Mr. Tuke is married to Susan Cummins Tuke, and they have two adopted children, both in college. In addition to the positions mentioned above, he is a member of the Metropolitan Nashville CATV Committee, the Board of Directors of the Nashville Branch of the National Conference for Community and Justice, the Board of Directors of the University of Virginia Rowing Association, and the Keyman of the Laymen of St. George's Episcopal Church. Mr. Tuke served as an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps 1969-1973, including a tour in Vietnam, where he was awarded the Cross of Gallantry in combat.
I can find no flaws in your logic.
Also, Google shows that Igore made frequent use of the term "Sugarcoat".

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this guy may be a HUGE advocate of homosexual adoption. He is an adoption attorney and he lectures about "adoption issues".
I didn't realize Teddy was still on the air. Is the convicted felon tommy burnett(sp?), good dem you know, still there?
You may very well be on to something.
Let's take a little peek at a virtual video lecture he plans to present to (some? all?) children in Tennessee grades 6-12 on October 12.
| Data for figure 3. Emergency department drug mentions for selected drug groups, total drug mentions, and total drug episodes: 1978 to 2001 | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Year | Cocaine | Heroin/ morphine | Marijuana/ hashish | Meth/ speed | Total drug mentions | Total drug episodes |
| 1978 | 3,438 | 11,666 | 10,581 | 3,102 | 492,356 | 323,100 |
| 1979 | 5,347 | 11,900 | 11,284 | 3,845 | 511,124 | 329,109 |
| 1980 | 7,712 | 14,707 | 10,218 | 5,092 | 502,225 | 315,624 |
| 1981 | 9,750 | 17,112 | 10,644 | 6,469 | 534,828 | 329,923 |
| 1982 | 12,370 | 22,965 | 11,584 | 6,596 | 538,649 | 330,611 |
| 1983 | 15,188 | 25,100 | 10,765 | 6,278 | 510,879 | 314,616 |
| 1984 | 24,368 | 26,449 | 12,062 | 7,487 | 531,049 | 327,297 |
| 1985 | 28,827 | 28,877 | 12,651 | 6,135 | 536,135 | 334,503 |
| 1986 | 51,666 | 28,622 | 13,171 | 6,023 | 550,070 | 352,477 |
| 1987 | 91,791 | 32,696 | 22,276 | 7,707 | 664,554 | 396,414 |
| 1988 | 101,578 | 38,063 | 19,962 | 8,992 | 668,153 | 403,578 |
| 1989 | 110,013 | 41,656 | 20,703 | 8,722 | 713,392 | 425,904 |
| 1990 | 80,355 | 33,884 | 15,706 | 5,236 | 635,460 | 371,208 |
| 1991 | 101,189 | 35,898 | 16,251 | 4,887 | 674,861 | 393,968 |
| 1992 | 119,843 | 48,003 | 23,997 | 6,563 | 751,731 | 433,493 |
| 1993 | 123,423 | 63,232 | 28,873 | 9,926 | 796,762 | 460,910 |
| 1994 | 143,337 | 63,158 | 40,034 | 17,537 | 899,600 | 518,880 |
| 1995 | 135,711 | 69,556 | 45,259 | 15,933 | 900,287 | 513,519 |
| 1996 | 152,420 | 72,980 | 53,770 | 11,002 | 906,366 | 513,933 |
| 1997 | 161,083 | 70,712 | 64,720 | 17,154 | 942,382 | 526,818 |
| 1998 | 172,011 | 75,688 | 76,842 | 11,486 | 981,764 | 542,432 |
| 1999 | 168,751 | 82,192 | 87,068 | 10,447 | 1,014,243 | 554,767 |
| 2000 | 174,881 | 94,804 | 96,426 | 13,505 | 1,099,306 | 601,563 |
| 2001 | 193,034 | 93,064 | 110,512 | 14,923 | 1,165,367 | 638,484 |
| Note: Totals include other drugs not specified above. More than one drug may be mentioned for each emergency department episode; therefore, the total number of drug mentions exceeds the total number of drug episodes. A drug mention refers to a substance that was recorded during a drug-related episode (an emergency department visit). Data from 1994 to 2000 were revised in the 2001 DAWN ED report; therefore, reports previous to 2001 may indicate differing numbers. Source: Drug Abuse Warning Network. |
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As one can clearly see from the chart above ( http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/druguse/ ) cocaine use has been generally on a climb since 1978.
Graphing the above chart gives us a better idea on the use of cocaine use in the U.S. If one were to simply eyeball the following (Fig-1) graph of the above data, you would clearly come to the conclusion that cocaine use was not a factor in 1972.
Figure-1

In fact, linear regression analysis (Fig 2) shows that in 1972 it would be below zero, a case that must be thrown out since it is absurd, but it highly suggests that use of this drug on a recreational basis as is being charged was NIL in 1972.

In short there was absolutely NO REASON at all for the Air National Guard to implement expensive drug testing in 1972.
Found you!
Look at this quote from Knox:
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that," Knox said. "But it wasn't in memo file."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216254/posts
Are we being thrown a bone here? I mean, BobKrumm registered and posted this just yesterday.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216183/posts?q=1&&page=95#95
His credentials seem to be excellent as witnessed in this post
http://www.tennessean.com/opinion/archives/04/07/55279103.shtml
You mentioned that Bob is a good friend. Do we need to take what he has given us and run with it. If so, lead the way. Ill follow.
I have to laugh at your name. In Seneca Falls, NY, there used to be a bar called Filthy McNasty's. Any relation??? (smile)
Nope, 'fraid not. I thought it was unique, but I'm often ask if there's a connection to one thing or another.
Thanks for asking.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1216910/posts
or
Using the technology for drug testing available in 1972-1973, anyone who wanted to pass a test for cocaine or speed simply had to abstain for 72 hours or less.
reference bump
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