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U.S. intelligence pessimistic on Iraq future
msn ^ | 16 SEP 2004 | AP

Posted on 09/16/2004 8:40:27 AM PDT by Huck

“It’s beyond pitiful, it’s beyond embarrassing, it’s now in the zone of dangerous,” said Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., referring to figures showing only about 6 percent of the reconstruction money approved by Congress last year has been spent. “We know that the provision of adequate security up front is requisite to rapid progress on all other fronts,” said Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Ron Schlicher. Related story Powell doubts WMD will be found White House spokesman Scott McClellan said circumstances in Iraq have changed since last year. “It’s important that you have some flexibility.” But Hagel said the shift in funds “does not add up in my opinion to a pretty picture, to a picture that shows that we’re winning. But it does add up to this: an acknowledgment that we are in deep trouble.” 'Lack of planning apparent' Hagel, Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and other committee members have long argued — even before the war — that administration plans for rebuilding Iraq were inadequate and based on overly optimistic assumptions that Americans would be greeted as liberators. “Our committee heard blindly optimistic people from the administration prior to the war and people outside the administration — what I call the ’dancing in the street crowd,’ that we just simply will be greeted with open arms,” Lugar said. “The nonsense of all of that is apparent. The lack of planning is apparent.” He said the need to shift the reconstruction funds was clear in July, but the administration was slow to make the request. “This is an extraordinary, ineffective administrative procedure. It is exasperating from anybody looking at this from any vantage point,” he said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: biden; hagel; intelligence; iraq; lugar
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Searched title. Didn;t see this posted. See Hagel and Lugar comments; I dont think they were in the NY SLimes story.
1 posted on 09/16/2004 8:40:37 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck

Um... what did they have to say about America's future? (WOOPS! It the MSM!)


2 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:33 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: Huck
See Hagel and Lugar comments

Two of my least favorite Republican senators.

3 posted on 09/16/2004 8:42:17 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What's the frequency Kenneth?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yeah, the midwest's answer to Olympia Snowe.


4 posted on 09/16/2004 8:42:58 AM PDT by Huck (What's the typography, Kenneth?)
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To: Huck

May as well go to Paris and draw up surrender plans to al-Quada. Kerry should be able to help with the plan. Maybe he still has the VC version.


5 posted on 09/16/2004 8:43:46 AM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Two of my least favorite Republican senators.

It must be why the Sunday talk shows like Hagel.

6 posted on 09/16/2004 8:44:51 AM PDT by demlosers (The FreeRepublic Pajama Press!)
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To: Huck

Hagel is a real jackass. The ultimate solution in Iraq is through Syria and especially Iran. Difficult as it may be, what radical states will be left after that?


7 posted on 09/16/2004 8:45:35 AM PDT by Williams
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To: demlosers

Chuck Hagel is McCain's understudy.


8 posted on 09/16/2004 8:46:56 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: Williams

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Sudan, Pakistan, and North Korea, for starters. Our job's not even close to done.


9 posted on 09/16/2004 8:47:39 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Huck
"It’s beyond pitiful, it’s beyond embarrassing, it’s now in the zone of dangerous,” said Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb, of his transparent attempt to garner favors with the left in his bid for the 2008 Presidential nod.

/sarcasm

10 posted on 09/16/2004 8:48:08 AM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (Dan Rather is headed toward the IBM Selectric Chair.)
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To: Huck

And the shooting stopped in Korea in 1951.

So what is the latest US intelligence estimate about when security will be restored and US troops withdrawn from the Korean peninsula? And what did the estimates say about post-war Korea when Harry Truman launched the attack?


11 posted on 09/16/2004 8:48:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: snooker
Things are going fairly well in Iraq. There are just a few bumps in the road, as was to be expected. We need to increase our troop presence in Western Iraq to combat the insurgents. But remember that the President has announced that "we will not waver, we will not falter".

President Bush is a leader who does not cut & run at the first sign of trouble.

12 posted on 09/16/2004 8:49:09 AM PDT by Teplukin
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To: Huck

If I hear the phrase "lack of planning" one more time, some libs and RINO's are flat out going to die en masse.

No-one should be allowed to say those three words EVER AGAIN without having to explain what THEIR plan was/is in excruciating detail, with equally detailed supporting evidence from history rooted in a solid understanding of human nature.


13 posted on 09/16/2004 8:49:09 AM PDT by Zhangliqun (Liberals love America the way teenagers love an unlocked liquor cabinet...)
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To: snooker
Things are going fairly well in Iraq. There are just a few bumps in the road, as was to be expected. We need to increase our troop presence in Western Iraq to combat the insurgents. But remember that the President has announced that "we will not waver, we will not falter".

President Bush is a leader who does not cut & run at the first sign of trouble.

14 posted on 09/16/2004 8:49:13 AM PDT by Teplukin
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To: Huck

Don't believe anything from The Main Stream Nerds.


15 posted on 09/16/2004 8:51:01 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: thoughtomator
Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Sudan, Pakistan, and North Korea,Canada, for starters. Our job's not even close to done.

/sarcasm

16 posted on 09/16/2004 8:52:47 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Teplukin
CSPAN's Washington Journal had a UPI Reporter on this morning, (replay I think) who was whining fiercely how these people will never get (civilized ) , there have always used their tribes to protect themselves , they can't be changed, it is worse than it was when Saddam was in Control....... real PUKE comments!!!!
17 posted on 09/16/2004 8:53:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Huck

Rebuilding a nation almost from scratch takes more than one year and a half. It takes years longer than that to build a skyscraper or stretch of highway. By my observations, there is an uptick in attacks occurring about every 4 months and each time is somewhat less than before. First, Najaf, Baghdad, Fallujah and Basra had increases in attacks. Basra has settled down. Najaf has too since the return of Sistani from Europe and killing thousands of Sadr's thugs. The recent uptick was primarily in Baghdad. Fallujah residents are targeting the foreigners in their midst for air strikes. Bit by bit, the Iraqis are doing the policing themselves. In intercepted communications, Zarqwahi(sp) is beginning to get worried about the steady attrition of his jihadists and withering of his redsources. The Syrian border is geting tighter and tighter. The Marines recently killed many infiltrators. It going to be a long slog, no doubt, but we are winning. We are winning.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 8:54:37 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: Paleo Conservative
As a native Nebraskan, I wish to humbly and fervently apologize for Chuck Hagel to everyone who reads and participates in this forum.
19 posted on 09/16/2004 8:57:14 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Huck
I do agree with some of the high ranking retired military people that we should, with the cooperation of the Iraqi council, give a warning to three cities in Iraq and level them. Circle them first so we can catch the stupid fish as the cowards run.
20 posted on 09/16/2004 9:27:44 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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