There is something in his file that will NEVER be disclosed voluntarily. It is a death blow.
- Disciplinary action for some offense so repulsive that all would be turned off to this man?
Posted on 09/17/2004 9:20:32 AM PDT by LOSERLIBERALS
Navy Contradicts Kerry on Release of Military Records By Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer September 16, 2004
(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Navy released documents Wednesday contradicting claims by Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry that all of his available military records have been released.
The Navy, responding to a Freedom of Information Act request from the legal watchdog group Judicial Watch, also referred interested parties to Kerry's campaign web site for government military documents.
Navy Personnel Command FOIA Officer Dave German wrote in an e-mail to Judicial Watch that the Navy "withheld thirty-one pages of documents from the responsive military personnel service records as we were not provided a release authorization."
A "release authorization" would have to come from Kerry filling out and signing a Standard Form 180, something he has yet to do. A Standard Form 180 would authorize the complete release of all his military records. Judicial Watch filed Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests in August to obtain Kerry's military records.
The official U.S. Navy response was received by Judicial Watch on Wednesday, the same day that Kerry told syndicated radio and MSNBC TV host Don Imus that "We've posted my military records that they sent to me, or were posted on my website. You can go to my website, and all my -- you know, the documents are there."
(Excerpt) Read more at WWW.WORLDNETDAILY.COM ...
"We released everything that they (the Navy) initially sent me," he added.
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the Navy's correspondence confirms that Kerry has not been forthright in releasing his military files.
"It's written confirmation from the U.S. Navy that there are additional documents from Kerry's service record that have yet to be made publicly available," Fitton told CNSNews.com.
Fitton called the Kerry campaign's contention that all of the candidate's military files have been released, "wrong."
"They (the Kerry campaign) are either ignorant or misleading us. The simple solution is to authorize the release of all records related to his service," Fitton said.
German in a letter dated September 15, also referred Judicial Watch to Kerry's campaign website for more information on Kerry's military records.
"Numerous responsive U.S. Navy service record documents, as well as service record documents not subject to disclosure requirements under the FOIA, may be accessed at" the Kerry campaign's website applying to his military records, wrote German.
"Right now we are in the 'Alice in Wonderland' situation, where the U.S. Navy is telling us to go to a campaign Internet site to get government FOIA documents," Fitton said.
"I am not aware of any other instance where [a government agency] told us to go to a political website for documents," he added. "It's not a reliable repository of government documents."
In additional correspondence with Judicial Watch dated Sept. 15, the Navy stated that it did not have a copy of Kerry's Discharge Certificate (DD Form 256N), adding that the Navy did not keep files of the certificate in its records.
German wrote in a letter dated Sept. 15, "A copy of an honorable discharge certificate (DD256N) is not placed in the U.S. Navy Service record when issued."
Jerome Corsi, co-author of the best-selling book "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," told CNSNews.com the he was "surprised" the Navy did not have a copy of Kerry's discharge file.
"That means [Kerry's] got it," Corsi said. "It goes against his contention that he has released everything that is in his possession, because certainly that form is in his possession."
Corsi believes that the Navy's official response proves that "it's Kerry who is blocking the release of the [military] documents and nobody else."
"What's Senator Kerry got to hide?" Corsi asked. "By not releasing these files, he is creating the impression that there is something there he doesn't want anybody to see. What is it?"
Judicial Watch is also awaiting the U.S. Navy's response to its inquiry regarding Kerry's "Silver Star with combat V." The citation appears in Kerry's DD214 military form on his website, but according to military officials, no such medal exists.
"Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star," said a Naval official to reporter Thomas Lipscomb in an article for the August 27th Chicago Sun Times.
According to the Sun Times article, "Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a 'combat V' for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star 'combat V,' either."
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Oopsie!
Any bets he will? I don't think so.
Message from Iraq
The proud warriors of Baker Company wanted to do something to pay tribute To our fallen comrades. So since we are part of the only Marine Infantry Battalion left in Iraq the one way that we could think of doing that is By taking a picture of Baker Company saying the way we feel. It would be awesome if you could find a way to share this with our fellow countrymen. I was wondering if there was any way to get this into your papers to let the world know that "WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN" and are proud to serve our country." Semper Fi 1stSgt Dave Jobe
http://www.republicansabroad-spain.org/newsevents/Irak.html
TO U.S. MILITARY PERSONEL , BAKER CO . AND ALL OUR TROOPS AROUND THE WORLD.
I am thankful for your service to our great country and want you to know that myself and all my friends and family support your efforts 100%
Unlike Hanoi John Kerry who will put you under the control of America Hater Koffi Annan and the useless United Nations.
We as a nation are grateful to all you troops and we are proud of you guys.
SEMPER FIDELIS !
Ack, too bad it's Judicial Watch. I guess the money from left has dried up and they're going back to trying to please the right. Have they won a case yet?
The media continues to support Kerry's stonewalling on his military records (he refuses to sign form 180) --- but Bush has signed form 180 which completely releases all his records from the Pentagon.
Now the scummy MSM still continues to print the LIE that Bush is still stonewalling --- BUSH CANNOT STONEWALL -- IT IS OUT OF HIS HANDS --- the Pentagon can stonewall, but BUSH CANNOT!!!
But the MSM is SPINNING the situation to create the appearance THAT BUSH IS HIDING SOMETHING. MEANWHILE, KERRY CONTINUES TO STONEWALL BY REFUSING TO SIGN FORM 180 !!!!!! BUT THAT IS OKAY BY THE MSM -- THEY SAY NOTHING ABOUT IT!!!
Liars, scum bags, the left just continues to slime Bush!!!
There is something in his file that will NEVER be disclosed voluntarily. It is a death blow.
> In additional correspondence with Judicial Watch dated
> Sept. 15, the Navy stated that it did not have a copy
> of Kerry's Discharge Certificate (DD Form 256N), adding
> that the Navy did not keep files of the certificate in
> its records.
I wonder if this is a bit overblown. The USN would have
the Report of Separation (it's called out separately on
the SF-180). The DD 256N might just be a certificate
bearing that same info.
I also wonder if we need to subtract from the withheld
31 pages all the docs that Kerry has released. A prior
report said the Navy had 100 pages of unreleasable
Kerry material.
In any case, if there was nothing else to turn up,
Kerry would sign the '180 and make that part of his
problems go away. Odds are there is info he never
wants exposed to the light of day.
> Disciplinary action for some offense so repulsive
> that all would be turned off to this man?
Or perhaps even just a reprimand for reporting for
showing up 17 days late for PCF duty in Vietnam?
I've seen a report of this, and no explanation.
If it's true, my guess is that JFK2 learned about
SEALORD during PCF training in San Diego, and was
considering his options to avoid getting shot at
on these dangerous up-river missions.
When JFK2 applied for transfer from the Gridley to
the "PT-109" service, the PCFs were doing "Market
Time" open-water coastal patrol, dramatically less
risky than the later SEALORD.
Because it's highly likely Kerry did NOT receive an honorable discharge, was pardoned by Jimmy Carter, and applied and received an honorable discharge in 1978.
Of course, a certain Junior Senator from New York who has Kerry's FBI file may just leak the info out to the media before the end of the month.....
Yes their track record is dismal, but Klayman has left the firm from what I have heard and the following case on Hillary is still very active...
08/24/04 – A HOLLYWOOD fundraiser who organised events featuring such celebrities as former US president Bill Clinton was today jailed for more than five years for fraud. Aaron Tonken, 38, was sentenced to 63 months behind bars after admitting fraudulently diverting hundreds of thousands of dollars destined for charity galas and using the cash to pay off his own credit card bills. <…snip…>During his time as a top fundraiser, Tonken helped arrange events for Mr Clinton and his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in August 2000. Tonken struck a secret plea deal with prosecutors that resulted in today's sentencing by US District Judge Dale Fischer in Los Angeles.Now…keep in mind the secret plea deal and read these stories:
04/19/04 - The Federal Election Commission has opened a formal probe into a star-studded Aug. 12, 2000 Hollywood fundraiser for then-first lady Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign, Fox News Channel reported on Sunday. And some say the development is at least partly responsible for Sen. Clinton's claim that she's not interested in joining John Kerry's presidential ticket.The allegations themselves are not new: Two of the event's organizers, Hollywood producer Peter Paul and charity fundraiser Aaron Tonken, have detailed a series of transactions undertaken in conjunction with Hillary's campaign that could violate FEC regulations, with Paul charging that the campaign failed to report nearly $2 million he spent producing the event.
But months before Paul was returned to the U.S. to stand trial in the stock case, Hollywood fundraiser Aaron Tonken began cooperating with federal probers. Tonken has said that he's a star witness against the Clintons in a federal grand jury probe in New York into Mr. Clinton's Marc Rich pardon - and has been cooperating with the U.S. attorney in Los Angeles who's probing his fundraising activities.
FEC Heat Hurts Hillary's VP Chances
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton surely hopes that history isn't repeating itself with the raid conducted by the FBI last month on another warehouse; this one chock full of documents from her 2000 Senatorial campaign."The documents were seized in a May 30 raid of a California storage facility containing documents of Peter Paul, the entrepreneur who funded Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign with over $2 million dollars in direct, in-kind contributions which were never reported by Hillary Clinton or her Senate campaign, as required by law," revealed the public interest law firm Judicial Watch in a press release late last week.
FBI Raids Hillary's Warehouse in Whitewater Deja Vu
The Bush administration has quietly done an about-face on allegations that New York Sen. Hillary Clinton broke campaign finance laws in 2000 - with the Justice Department preparing to extradite one-time Clinton fund-raiser Peter Paul to the U.S. as part of a plea deal for his testimony. The sudden action on Paul's case comes just weeks after reports surfaced that former Hollywood fund-raiser Aaron Tonken has supplied damaging testimony about Hillary Clinton's fund-raising practices.
"I'm a star witness against President and Mrs. Clinton," Tonken claimed in a recent report on his case in Vanity Fair magazine, explaining that prosecutors wanted his testimony about" "fundraising activities that I've done on behalf of the Clintons." The exact nature of Tonken's allegations against Sen. Clinton remains secret, the magazine said. But the celebrity moneyman is known to have been involved in the August 2000 fund raiser that is at the heart of Peter Paul's allegations.
Peter F. Paul, the flamboyant Hollywood entrepreneur who says Hillary Rodham Clinton has hidden almost $2 million of in-kind contributions he made to her campaign in 2000, is back from Brazil and promising to raise a ruckus about the New York senator as he fights bizarre securities and bank-fraud charges on which he's been indicted. Aaron Tonken, a political operative in Hollywood and a former protégé of Paul under indictment for a variety of alleged sharp deals with the rich and famous, also is promising to tell everything he knows about behind-the-scenes shenanigans of Clinton and many others.
Clintons' Fall Guy May Turn the Tables (Peter Paul)
Mr. Paul has substantial, documentary evidence detailing his close relationship with the Clintons and his funding of the Hollywood tribute, including cancelled checks, hand-written thank you notes from the Clintons, and photographs. Also named in the complaint is Clinton fundraiser David Rosen, Clinton friend James Levin, and Hollywood celebrity fundraiser Aaron Tonken, who currently is under criminal investigation for his role in other Hollywood fundraisers. As a result of Mr. Paul’s disclosures, federal authorities have launched an investigation into the Clintons and other matters. Mr. Paul, who is facing alleged (and related) stock and bank fraud charges, remains eager to cooperate with federal authorities.
Step back. Take a deep breath. Take a chill pill.
It is what they do; always have and always will.
I could read the anger and dismay in your post. It really isn't worth the angst and ruining your day or health over.
"WE" will prevail!
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