Skip to comments.Americans reveal Russian MiGs in Venezuela
Posted on 09/17/2004 10:21:22 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
American military intelligence confirms that the Venezuelan ministry of defense has several new MiG-29 fighters. The MiG-29s for now located on one of the bases in the region of Lake Maracaibo. The fighters periodically perform training flights in the region of Curacao island in the Caribbean sea, where they were detected by the American military. Information about Venezuela's MiG-29s was also confirmed by representatives of the Columbian ministry of defence.
The purchase of Russian fighters, according to the American military, is part of a long-term plan by the Venezuelan ministry of defense to upgrade their air forces. Venezuela plans to buy about 50 Russian MiG-29 fighters in various modifications, with 40 single-seat and 10 dual-seat models. Venezuela plans to spend about 5 billion dollars for the Russian fighters, including missiles and special aviation and airfield equipment.
Until recently the only MiG-29s in Latin America were used by Peru and Cuba. Cuba only has six MiG-29s.
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All that money we give them for oil had to be drained off somehow.
...hmmmm, this would be pretty cool thing to see next month when I'm in Curacao....a little M-29 fly by would be interesting.
They will benefit by the protection the MiGs provide against them, oops, I mean for them.
Theres not a single country in Latin America that needs MIG-29s. This just starts a minor-league problem between Venezuela and all of its neighbors. There was a period in the 1960s where almost of the dictators in Latin America was using its military to threaten neighbors...thus keeping their instablity out of the press. It appears that we are going full-circle now.
of course who will be flying these 29's for chavez? Does he know planes take pilots?
Chavez is becoming more of a headache than he's worth. I think he'll lose his job sometime after our election.
beware the Ides of November....I like it!
Not just his job but his life.
Wow-if the numbers are confirmed,it will be the largest single buy of Mig-29s by a nation after India brought nearly 80 in the late 1980s.Going by the current trend,the variant probably will be the multi-role Mig-29SMT.MIG has been having a quiet revival of sorts with Algeria also showing interest in the Mig-29SMT & India deciding to buy the new generation Mig-29K for the carrier, it is buying from Russia.
This is not going to make the Colombians very happy at all..
Does anyone know how old of a model the MIG-29 is?
The same pilots that fly the F-16 fighter.
Beautiful pic, now that's a keeper.
FAV= Venezuela Air Force.
That is the best thing that can happen for us. If ever all the states in SA get together under one leadership we will have a big problem. That is the only group of countries that has a land route into the good old USA and Mexico would not slow them down for more than 10 min.
"the Fulcrum entered series production in 1982 "
The basic design is a contemporary of competing American designs.
# F/A-18 Hornet
# F-16 Fighting Falcon
# F-15 Eagle
# Su-27 Flanker
They have been operating US supplied F-16s since 1983. The same package deal for F-16 conversion will be provided by the Russians for the MiG-29s.
Latter 90's export refurb, eh?
They looked relatively modern.
Prolly not much of a match for America's latest, though...
Interesting. So, with some of the stand off weapons these can carry (including tac nuke ones) this starts to become disturbing. Personally I think it is time to return to gunboat diplomacy and the Monroe Doctrine.
Could you clarify hat please? Some time ago, Venezeuela requested a batch of F-16C/Ds, but the US government blocked the request.
Well if upgraded with Israeli & French electronics(as India has done) & hooked up with AWACS vectoring & competent pilots,Russian planes like the Mig-29 & Su-27/30 can stand up confidently to systems like the F-15 or F-16,though not the F/A-22(which is ,well another class).
Money we GAVE them for oil? You speak of PURCHASING a product, the right to purchase which was won via pre-Bush trade agreements?? Cut me a break
Chavez was funded with UN blood for oil money via a mutual friend to both Chavez and Castro, Saddam Hussein. This isn't new news. Maybe the media finally deigned to notice it NOW, but it might carry more journalistic weight if it had been news two years ago. Mass media loses again.
Jimmy Carter will make sure that his buddy Chavez only uses these for peaceful purposes.
Another Cuba forming on mainland.
Rockets will follow, then nukes.
And exactly what purpose do they serve?
Providing the US with future Targets at a later date. We are eventualy gonna have to do something down there, it can not continue the way it is going.
I've heard that Larry Ellison (of Oracle Corp. fame) owns a MiG-29. Maybe we can get Larry to attack the Venezuelan Air Force.
Key word, "competent pilots" , I doubt they have any.
That worked for the North Vietnamese in the 60's.
Forming?? It's BEEN there since Chavez took over. Clinton went down to Venezuela to rig the elections and be wined and dined by Chaves. Chaves isn't a charter member, but still part of the inner circle of the Turd Way. As is Putin, BTW.
Yemen is the 90s too. A lot of skilled help out there in need of the paycheck that an oil state can provide.
Well....the certain types of people in the US happen to have fighter jets capable of giving a MiG29 a run for their money. Fully armed and registered with the Dept of Homeland Security. Combine all those people...Chaves can kiss his nether regions goodbye.
Your list has the Su-27?
Yep. Definitely. The Dems know it too, and drool venom in anticipation of Iran-Contra redux.
Intercepting Stealth bombers?
MiG-29s and Su-27s have a little-known tracking device called the OEhPS, or Electro-optical Search and Track, sometimes known as Infrared Seach and Track. This device can detect the heat of an aircraft and is not bothered by radar-jamming or minimalization.
It's biggest benefit is that it's passive, emitting no signals that can warn its target. Those old movies where the pilot starts yelling "He's got lock on!" refer to radar target acquistion, but the OEhPS gives no warning until a missile comes up your exhaust pipe.
ANY escalation of military technology in Latin America is bad. For the US, and for Venezuela's neighbors. FIFTY modern interceptors is a big worry, much more than far-away Cuba's half-dozen.
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