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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug

Stuff like this is not helpful. Calling Kerry a criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring.


2 posted on 09/18/2004 9:40:49 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur
Calling Kerry a criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring.

There's no statute of limitations on Treason.

3 posted on 09/18/2004 9:43:32 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: sinkspur

WTH are you talking about? He IS a criminal!!! He is a treasonous idiot who met with NV commies 3x in France WHILE there was a war going on. He taped messages directed at the imprisoned soldiers in the Hanoi Hilton. He coached so called 'Vietnam Vets' (who NEVER served) to testify to war crimes. He lied under oath in his testimony before Congress. In this testimony, he repeated KGB propaganda LINE FOR LINE.


4 posted on 09/18/2004 9:44:31 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: sinkspur

IMHO sKerry IS in fact a criminal. His already documented actions after his 4 month "service" is already grounds for "Aid & Comfort" charges. If the Paris Talks charges pan out, he is in deep doodoo.

That Hanoi Jane is still aiding and comforting our enemies instead of being in a federal prison; and that John Effin sKerry is a US Senator instead of a federal prison, is a national disgrace that only continues to weaken us in the eyes of our enemies.

I say give 'em a fair trial and hang his worthless hide.


9 posted on 09/18/2004 9:48:44 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: sinkspur

I called Kerry nothing, yet, but I did post a column in which the author has researched the entire episode involving John Kerry's trip Paris to collaborate with representatives from the enemy camp during the Vietnam War. When my father and many others were busy getting fired on regularly by the enemy, the good senator was busy sucking up to the Viet Cong, undermining our government's bargaining power. What he admitted to is illegal. Period.

I was not trying to be helpful, just informative. So, yes, John Kerry is a criminal.


13 posted on 09/18/2004 9:52:53 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (John "F-orging" Kerry)
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To: sinkspur

United States Constitution

Amendment XIV

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Not only is Mr. Kerry a criminal, he shouldn't even be a Senator.
14 posted on 09/18/2004 9:53:02 PM PDT by reg45
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To: sinkspur
Stuff like this is not helpful. Calling Kerry a criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring.

Kerry is a documented criminal. Kerry is known by FBI files to have been in the meeting in which the Vietnam Veterns Against the War plotted to kill national leaders. Kerry resigned immediately from the organization, but was an accomplish to the crime and had a duty to report this.

17 posted on 09/18/2004 9:55:17 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: sinkspur

> Stuff like this is not helpful. Calling Kerry a
> criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring.

Actually, it's very helpful, because it nails down some
of the uninformed speculation on this topic.

Will Kerry ever be charged? Probably not. Possibly
there's even a Carter pardon we don't know about.

But a jury is being seated and a verdict is expected
on 02 Nov 2004. They are allowed to take this into
consideration. Keep in mind that many voters are not
aware of Kerry's Tour of Duty on behalf of North Vietnam.
Finding out from this article is a decent start on
getting them educated.


21 posted on 09/18/2004 10:02:16 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: sinkspur

John Fing Kerry is a criminal, Communist, lying, disgusting, American-blood-on-his-hands-douchebag and I hope people shout it from the rooftops from here till sKerry morphs into JAC (Just Another Commie)...


33 posted on 09/18/2004 10:30:59 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: sinkspur; Time4Atlas2Shrug
Stuff like this is not helpful. Calling Kerry a criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring.

Decorated veteran John Kerry, testifying before the House Foreign Relations Committee, questions the War in Vietnam, Washington, D.C., April 22, 1971.

Excerpt:

Kerry: We call this investigation the Winter Soldier Investigation. The term "winter soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776, when he spoke of the "sunshine patriots," and "summertime soldiers" who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country, we could be quiet, we could hold our silence, we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel, because of what threatens this country, not the reds, but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out.

I would like to talk to you a little bit about what the result is of the feelings these men carry with them after coming back from Vietnam. The country doesn't know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in violence, and who are given the chance to die for the biggest nothing in history; men who have returned with a sense of anger and a sense of betrayal which no one has yet grasped.

They told stories that, at times, they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam,in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

We watched the United States falsification of body counts, in fact the glorification of body counts. We listened while, month after month, we were told the back of the enemy was about to break. We fought using weapons against "oriental human beings" with quotation marks around that. We fought using weapons against those people which I do not believe this country would dream of using, were we fighting in the European theater. We watched while men charged up hills because a general said that hill has to be taken, and, after losing one platoon, or two platoons, they marched away to leave the hill for reoccupation by the North Vietnamese. We watched pride allow the most unimportant battles to be blown into extravaganzas, because we couldn't lose, and we couldn't retreat, and because it didn't matter how many American bodies were lost to prove that point, and so there were Hamburger Hills and Khe Sanhs and Hill 81s and Fire Base 6s, and so many others.

Now we are told that the men who fought there must watch quietly while American lives are lost so that we can exercise the incredible arrogance of "Vietnamizing" the Vietnamese.

Each day, to facilitate the process by which the United States washes her hands of Vietnam, someone has to give up his life so that the United States doesn't have to admit something that the entire world already knows, so that we can't say that we have made a mistake. Someone has to die so that President Nixon won't be, and these are his words, "the first President to lose a war." LINK


40 posted on 09/18/2004 10:49:43 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: sinkspur
You said..."Stuff like this is not helpful. Calling Kerry a criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring."

Well, I HIGHLY SUSPECT that Mr. kerry is a criminal, and a vile one. That better?

BTW, your tagline says..."John Kerry's gonna win on his juices"

Sorry pal, john kerry's gonna lose on his background history, his pessimism, his inability to take a strong stand, and his uncontrollable venom.
41 posted on 09/18/2004 10:53:06 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: sinkspur
Stuff like this is not helpful. Calling Kerry a criminal is so over the top that it risks backfiring.

Are you fro, Ducks Unlimited?

44 posted on 09/18/2004 11:03:25 PM PDT by Henchman (Vote Communist - elect Kerry!)
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To: sinkspur

I'd bet my bottom dollar that the Swift Vets are, in their classy way, going to tell the American public that Mr. Kerry is indeed guilty as charged.

Also, in Unfit for Command it is shown that Kerry did not quit VVAW immediately after the November 1971 meeting in Kansas City where a vote was taken to assinate U.S. Senators. He continued giving speeches for them until April 1972. Kerry says he quit, but (huge understatement coming next) you have to consider the source.

Besides, I do not think the Swift Vets will demand that Kerrry be charged, They just want the public to know the truth. Then Kerry can spend the rest of his days in the same existential torment as does Mr. O.J. Simpson.


47 posted on 09/18/2004 11:21:28 PM PDT by BlurBlog (The web is a town meeting for the whole world.)
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To: sinkspur

If this man did commit this crime which he freely admits, why should he be forgiven just because he's running for an office.
The truth will never backfire.


50 posted on 09/19/2004 12:50:06 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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