Posted on 09/19/2004 8:01:49 PM PDT by Nepalis
Serbs run around ethnically cleansing their neighbors and run concentration camps, Serbs get bombed.
This is just all too much for your brain to wrap itself around, isn't it?
The 1940's have no bearing upon the actions of Milosevic's regime in the 1990's, and it is specifically upon the basis of the actions of the Milosevic regime in the 1990's that we wound up bombing Serbs - not once, but twice.
SERBIAN RADICAL LEADER CALLS FOR 'ALL SERBS IN ONE STATE'
Serbian Radical Party (SRS) Nikolic told the Sarajevo weekly "Slobodna Bosna" recently that Bosnian Serbs should be free to hold a plebiscite on leaving the "artificial" Bosnian state and annexing the Republika Srpska to Serbia, Reuters reported on 19 September. He said that all Serbs belong in one state and that he "will not rest politically" until that happens. "I insist on everyone being on his own territory. That is my political stand under which Serbia, Montenegro, the Republika Srpska, and, God willing, the [former] Republic of Serbian Krajina [in Croatia], should all be in one state," he argued. The news agency noted that this is the second time in one month that Nikolic has taken his greater Serbian message to Bosnia-Herzegovina, following a recent appearance in Bijeljina near the Serbian border. "All Serbs in one state" was a slogan of former President Milosevic at the start of the conflicts in the early 1990s.
If you want a third time for your cousins back in the old country, we'd be more than willing to oblige, DTA. We're not interested in your pathetic victim complex - as a matter of fact, we'll give you some more to cry about unless you wise up.
Croats were not bombed, neither were the Ustashe concentration camps, nor did the allies bother to try and liberate them, nor did Tito, strongly supported by the British and the US, attack the Ustashe. Instead, the Serb men who saved the lives of downed American pilots (513) were killed by Tito once he gained control over the whole territory.
Actually, it was the Russian tanks and helicopters that blew up the gymnasium.
Had the terrorists done it, no one would have survived.
Wasn't the redcross, and therefore world leaders, aware of the concentration camps in Croatia? They NEVER did rescue the people and the concentration camps laste almost 4 years.
No, Joan. We didn't.
You're out of your depth when the discussion turns to the 12th and 15th USAAF and their activities over Yugoslavia during World War II - we hit Axis targets throughout Yugoslavia as soon as the theater came into the range of our Strategic and Tactical air assets.
And what's this with Tito not attacking the Ustashe?
Are you really so dense as to think you can say whatever suits rather than having to constrain yourself within the bounds of historical realities?
Don't you have someone you could bake a pie for, or knit a sweater?
That Muslim soldier looks so much like him, it's freaky!
Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry wears a NASA "bunny suit" while visiting the flight deck of the space shuttle Discovery Monday. Democrats have accused Republicans of trying to embarrass Kerry by circulating photos from the visit. Photo: Courtesy of NASA
John Kerry crawls out of the NASA Shuttle Discovery during a tour of the Kennedy Space Center complex. NASA
In fact , the url of pic has changed by that web site .
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Is the second picture legit or was it photoshopped?
My meaning is the network address of second picture has changed by that web site .
PIP, stay safe
BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA, CROATIA, MONTENEGRO (FORMER FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA), SERBIA-KOSOVO (FORMER FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA) AND SLOVENIA
Italy's Secret Service Warns of Islamist Expansion in Balkans
from FBIS on Thursday, August 19, 2004
Article ID: D152109
The following text was translated from the Madrid La Razon (Internet Version-WWW) in Spanish on August 2004:
A report by the Italian Intelligence and Military Security Service (SISMI) seen by La Razon warns that the so-called "European green ridge" - a cross-border area linking the Muslim populations of the Balkans region and crossing five countries, ending up on the Black Sea, alongside Turkey - is being targeted by the Islamist fundamentalist movement in an effort to penetrate the heart of Europe. It warns that, after years of instability, Islamist extremists are gaining support in the region with breathtaking speed, due to funding from countries like Saudi Arabia. Armed Islamist groups are nothing new in the Balkans. They have existed since before the fall of the Soviet regime, and they played an important role during the disintegration of Yugoslavia - to such an extent that the "mujahidin" of that period are today considered "veterans" in the Al-Qa'idah galaxy.
In 1996, the US Republican Party presented in Congress a report accusing the administration of [President Bill] Clinton of "helping turn Bosnia into an Islamist militant base". The fact is that fundamentalist Arab countries, led by Saudi Arabia, have been exporting fundamentalist Islamism to the Balkans for decades. As well as supplying guerrilla movements, they have set up mosques, Koranic schools and Islamic cultural institutions and, taking advantage of failings in institutional structures and political instability, initiated their fundamentalist preaching. It is a rhetoric that is growing ever deeper roots. A report by the Italian Intelligence and Military Security Service (SISMI) says the situation is deteriorating. The revelation is of added credibility because Italy is one of the countries with the greatest military and strategic presence in the Balkans area, so its secret services are among the best informed about it. Its conclusions are emphatic: "Islamist extremism is progressively increasing its presence in the area through the funding of numerous NGOs and thanks to growing militancy in certain subversive organizations." "The phenomenon", the text goes on, "entails the risk of a progressive destabilization of the area and the creation of new armed commandos that may fall into the orbit of international terrorism." The country most affected by this progressive radicalization is Bosnia-Hercegovina, where more than 40 per cent of the population is Muslim. Before the disintegration of Yugoslavia, few Bosnian Muslims talked about the theocratic state or Koranic law. Today, the radical movement, while still in the minority, already affects a large sector of the population. It consists of a growing group of Muslims who do not see a very clear difference between the state and religion and who daily stir up the powder keg of the country's ethnic and religious differences. The Italian intelligence services stress "the growing danger from the international jihad veterans living in Bosnia", as well as the fact that "a growing proportion of the young population is very sensitive to the Islamist cause and is accustomed to coexisting and supporting itself economically in a structure of networks of fundamentalist and criminal associations". The autonomous region of Kosovo, which still belongs to the state of Serbia-Montenegro, is another of the places where fundamentalism is on the rise. The Kosovo Liberation Army itself, the group which confronted [former Yugoslav President Slobodan] Milosevic in the harsh years of ethnic cleansing, is an armed organization with a fundamentalist vocation which has received concrete support from Islamist fundamentalism and the ideological umbrella of the jihad. In fact, the Kosovo Albanians have still not lain down their weapons, even though the region has been administered by the international forces for five years. The Italian intelligence service explains that "the role of the province of Kosovo has been confirmed as a hub of the armed pan-Albanian irredentism that the region is suffering, which has led to the emergence of dangerous links between Albanian nationalism, Islamist extremism and criminal interests". The constant instability and the interminable economic crisis in neighbouring Macedonia - a country where the SISMI has managed to identify "intense exploitation of the poor economic, political and social situation by the fundamentalist movement" - is no less dangerous. It is all causing "dangerous relationships between fundamentalist groups and criminal organizations," the secret service report concludes.
2004 Copyright Madrid La Razon. All rights reserved.
http://www.ds-osac.org/view.cfm?key=7E435743435C&type=2B170C1E0A3A0F162820
The only part missing is the direct role Bosnian terror Inc. alumni played in WTC1, 9-11, SS Cole, Millenial plot and Madrid terrorist attack.
Also, direct links between Bosnian and Chechen terrorists is not mentioned and it is very important. It shows that
"Green terror interstate" is complete and operational.
As Canadian AQ turncoat Khadr has demonstrated, Al Qaeda is capable to transport terrorists from Afghanistan and Pakistan to Bosnia through Turkey, a NATO country.
Hoplite, someone not conversant with WWII might think you tell the truth. In reality, what you say is big fat lie. It is true that 12th 15th, NATAF, SAAF attacked small targets along the Adriatic coast and larger ones (Fiume oil rafinery, Spalato harbor and marshalling yards etc.) however, deliberate terror bombing of civilians did not occur over NDH (i.e. Independent State of Croatia) although NDH DECLARED WAR on U.S. and was shooting U.S. planes down(over 150 downed).
USAAF made negligent damage to German troops and their assets. The only success USAAF scored was murdering of Serb civilians in Serbia and Montenegro.
According to the official USAAF documents, targets in Serbia were targets of opportunity on way back from Ploesti oilfields.
The catch? Ploesti fell into the hands of Red Army in August, while terror bombing of Serbian towns continued until September 1944. Communists invaded Serbia two weeks later.
Bombing of Belgrade on Easter Sunday 1944 was deliberate - UXO was found with inscription "happy Easter" written in Serbian. According to flight documents, bombers were heading to Romania, but UXO shows otherwise. Belgrade city core was deliberately targetted, more than 2000 civilians were killed while the damage to occupying Wehrmacht forces was negligent (several dead and wounded)
Documents recently made public in Serbian archives show that it was Tito's communists who ordered bombing of Belgrade, Nish, Pirot, Niksic and other towns. When Slovene communists requested the same (bombing of some Slovene towns) Tito's circle flatly denied request.
Terror bombing of Serbia has opened the door for Communist invasion and subsequent occupation of Serbia and the rest of Yugoslavia.
At that time, this move seemed illogical, but today we can understand it. Installing Tito's regime was crucial part of post-WWII scheme.
Serbs saved over 500 American airmen (and 100 Canadian and British) only to be tricked big time by the 'allies'. The results can be seen today.
In Yugoslavia Hitler has won WWII, with American help.
getgoing, that sounds eerily familiar to my "yellow brick road" theory I have been decrying about for the past four years on here, doesnt it?
Historically, The Company (a.k.a. Cocaine Import Agency ) was in charge of drug trafficking.
Methinks DOS is not up to snuff for drug trade. Taking Saudi money for spreading of radical islamism is an easy alternative.
Popular explanation was that it stands for "ZElena TRAnsverzala", literally "Green transversal".
Think of two vertical lines representing WEST and EAST and horisontal one representing radical islamism.
At that time, Yugoslavia's eccomnomy was nosediving and the first signs of violent breakup were in the air.
Symbols are powerful tool of social control and this ZETRA thingk was great gimmick.
"Green transversal" route became political term 20 years before it materialized.
We bombed the Zemun Aerodrome, the Belgrade rail marshalling yards, and the industrail area of Belgrade.
All military targets
Bombing being what it was back then, not all targets were hit with as much accuracy as we'd have liked - the Schweinfurt raid in 1943, for example, resulted in bombs hitting the ground 2 miles away from the intended target. So when you pitch a bitch about us missing our target on Easter in Belgrade by 600 yards, as the inquiry General Spaatz held into the matter found out, you're just going to have to realize that you need to be more of a man about it, like, say, the French, who lost between 15k to 20k civilians in the bombing leading up to D-Day, yet realize that what we were doing had a purpose directly related to defeating the Nazis.
As to your whining about how the Serbs got screwed after the war, Mihailovic made the mistake of revealing his 'Greater Serbia' aspirations to his British liason, in effect stating that he was going to deal with his non-Serb countrymen before taking the war to the Germans.
In essence, Mihailovic was just a stupid Serb, mired in the prejudices and grudges of his people, and willing to act upon them with bloody effect. Unfortunately, there are too many like him still around today.
UXO was found with inscription "happy Easter" written in Serbian
Well it makes perfect sense, doesn't it - the USAAF taught all it's recruits Serbian just so they could taunt the Serbs, knowing that some professional victims would make hay of it 60 years later. As we were excluding Serbian Americans from our military, it couldn't have been one of them expressing his feelings towards the German occupiers of his country, could it DTA.
Belgrade and Zemun are located on the confluence of Sava and Danube rivers and unmistakable for target acquisition. (like gleaming silver T) Alleged targets were not hit.
>>>>Bombing being what it was back then, not all targets were hit with as much accuracy as we'd have liked - the Schweinfurt raid in 1943, for example, resulted in bombs hitting the ground 2 miles away from the intended target.<<<
Official USAAF reports show that special Norden ordnance sight enabled bombers to drop ordnance with such precission, colloquially "into pickle barrel". Do you want to say that USAAF lied ? If they did lie about Norden sights, on what grounds why we should believe into other reports?
>>>>So when you pitch a bitch about us missing our target on Easter in Belgrade by 600 yards, as the inquiry General Spaatz held into the matter found out, you're just going to have to realize that you need to be more of a man about it, like, say, the French, who lost between 15k to 20k civilians in the bombing leading up to D-Day, yet realize that what we were doing had a purpose directly related to defeating the Nazis.<<<<<
USAAF and RAF terror bombing of Serbian town did no harm to occupying German forces. This is in stark contrast with Operation Overlord. French did not die in vain. Serbs did die to allow easier Communist conquest.
>>>>In essence, Mihailovic was just a stupid Serb, mired in the prejudices and grudges of his people, and willing to act upon them with bloody effect. <<<<<<
FInally we agree on something. Before the war Mihailovic was the head of Intelligence Department of Yugoslav Army. But obviously he had no clue what Brits were doing in front of his nose, he had no clue who Tito was and had no clue that Brits are to ditch King Peter in favor of Tito. He was incompetent person who came at the top in the most dangerous time for Serbs.
>>>>Well it makes perfect sense, doesn't it - the USAAF taught all it's recruits Serbian just so they could taunt the Serbs, knowing that some professional victims would make hay of it 60 years later. As we were excluding Serbian Americans from our military, it couldn't have been one of them expressing his feelings towards the German occupiers of his country, could it DTA<<<<
It was an ORTHODOX EASTER, stupid. Germans are Protestants, Calvinists and RC. Bombs were intended to hit Serbs on THEIR EASTER. Any Serbian speaking RC or Communist could write such blasphemy.
>>>>As we were excluding Serbian Americans from our military,<<<<<
What are you talking about? Serb Americans earned Congressional Medals of Honor and Purple Hearts for WWII service.
Things of which you are incapable of understanding, apparently.
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