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Report: 2 Female Italian Foreign Aid Workers Sold to Al-Zarqawi, Moved from Baghdad to Fallujah

Posted on 09/20/2004 1:05:34 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: justshutupandtakeit
re: "No personal offense is intended"

And none is taken! I am so thankful for this forum to exchange ideas and vent frustrations! I don't know what I did before I learned of it a year or so back.

It's the actions of the Ted Kennedy and John Kerry et al that undermines our troops. If Saddam had been convinced that he faced in us a resolute, unified, very powerful country ready to do whatever it took to inspect his country per his agreement we would not have had to invade. It was the constant offering of support for him and his regime by elected officials and others that permitted him to underestimate our resolve. But then why would he not question our resolve, in 30 plus years we have abandoned every country that has trusted up to help them fight tyranny!
41 posted on 09/20/2004 5:26:34 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: gopwinsin04

We are now seeing the effects of our pull-out from Fallujah. Time to remove it from the map.


42 posted on 09/20/2004 5:30:01 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I think you have sort of mis-stated my approach to the problem. I say that when they attack us and then flee to a refuge where they have come to depend on our unwillingness to attack when there is potential for considerable collateral damage. The ones who are doing the shooting, killing, beheading, kidnapping, etc. are the ones we have a score to settle with. At some point we will probably have to realize that one reason they can get all these civilians to surround them is that the civilians consider the insurrectionists a great danger to them than our bombing raids.

I do not claim to have the answer or even an answer and make no pretenses to the contrary. I am overall satisfied with the way the war is being handled right now. I see evidence every day that more and more the majority of people in Iraq see the difference in our tactics and those of the insurrection and they are slowly starting to believe that we want to get out of their country as much, and probably a whole more, than they want us out! I am guilty of being a pretty impulsive person, a trait which frequently does not serve me well. I could tolerate the pace of this war much more gracefully if I didn't have to listen to John Kerry and his ilk every day providing hope t the enemy that if they can be violent enough our voters will kick Bush out and bring Kerry in.
43 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:33 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: johnb838
As I said, legendary.
44 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:25 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: gopwinsin04

Want to see world opinion about the war in Iraq come together over night? Let these non-humans behead one of the women.


45 posted on 09/20/2004 5:45:34 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Are you kidding? If they're against the war in Iraq, they'll only blame the U.S. for it.


46 posted on 09/20/2004 5:47:15 PM PDT by wimpycat (John Kerry has a fevah, and the only prescription is "MORE COWBELL".)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Holy --- SOLD? As in, pimped?

No as in sold into slavery. This is common practice in the Muslim world, infidel.

Perhaps you should spend more time understanding and relating to people outside of America, and realize that even the "Prophet" bought and sold slaves. I am sure this isn't even notworthy in the muslim press, except what their going rate is, so others can adjust their rates in the underground trade in their barbaric moon god worshipping culture.

47 posted on 09/20/2004 5:49:40 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (The (Swift Boat vets for) Truth will set us free.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I will give you a clue - the MOABITES are wrong.

Okaaaay. Have you or anyone else in your family ever been diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia?

48 posted on 09/20/2004 5:53:24 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (The (Swift Boat vets for) Truth will set us free.)
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To: gopwinsin04

bump


49 posted on 09/20/2004 6:50:26 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: willie1

Right.


50 posted on 09/20/2004 6:51:09 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: johnb838

"I say that because I'm convinced that some, perhaps most, of the Saudi rulers sincerely want to join us against the wahabbists."

They want to stay in power. The women issue needs to be taken up in a rational manner, but each time it has, the feminists scream "sexism." We as a nation need to stand up to our own domestic enemies before taking on testosterone laden Arabs. It is a sign of weakness to them that we can't stop women from entering combat zones.


51 posted on 09/20/2004 7:29:02 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: an amused spectator

"After the election, the gloves come off... ;-)"

I hope your right.

I keep telling myself that.

Now they have beheaded another American.

It just fills me with rage and anger.


52 posted on 09/20/2004 11:40:03 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

UNDERMINING American efforts in Iraq??

Do YOU know how foolish YOU look???

I'm almost called "Mr.Bush" at work. I'm working to get him elected, and regardless how bad things over there may be now, a Kerry victory would be infinitely worse. Unlike Mr. McCain, I believe the iinsurgeants there are well aware of the differences between Bush and his buddy, and are deliberately turning up the heat before the election in an attempt to discredit him. I would like to see the U.S. and Bush take off the kid gloves and really kick butt over there and then proceed onto Iran.

We can't afford to loose this one - its NOT Viet Nam. Either we kill them over there, we'll have to kill them over here.

Asking questions and becoming enraged at these savages is hardly "undermining" our war effort. Where did you grow up? NAZI Germany?


53 posted on 09/20/2004 11:45:20 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: followerofchrist

We did not ally with the Taliban or train them or Bin Laden in the fight against the Soviets. That is a commonly heard myth similiar to the arming Saddam lie.

We did aid other warlords in Afganistan but the Taliban was a Saudi/Pakistani creation.

When we conduct raids in Iraq it is with the assistance of the people. They have often revealed the terrorists hiding places. This is VERY different than Vietnam in almost every respect.


54 posted on 09/21/2004 9:57:04 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: jwpjr

Don't forget the role of our good friends in Paris who promised W they would help get rid of that SOB then stabbed us in the back when the shiite hit the fan.


55 posted on 09/21/2004 9:59:06 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: jwpjr

The tactics of the terrorists here are not to stand and fight and even their ambuses are not that damaging. They try to kill with remote controlled explosives. So they are far away when they go off.

Since they are killing more Iraqis than Americans eventually their welcome will be worn out before too long.


56 posted on 09/21/2004 10:16:33 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

Yes and No.


57 posted on 09/21/2004 10:17:28 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Flatten the whole damn town NOW and spare these women the gruesome head-saw-job!

God help me we must start terrorizing these bastards and I DON'T WANT TO HEAR about collateral dammage!

I want desecration, humiliation, intimidation, heads on pikes and carcasses hanging from ropes at every entrance to Fallooooojia. Reduce a town to not one thing but rubble.

You can't *tell* me that local Iraqis aren't covering for this guy. He isn't moving around in some tangential universe.

Reduce the vipers' nests to rubble. And NO DAMN 'JOURNALISTS'. They're all Dan Ratter's AFAIC...


58 posted on 09/21/2004 10:20:42 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ZULU

I would prefer you act here like you do at work rather than using nonsensical and unwarranted criticism based upon mistatements and disinformation.

Your critiques here are identical to those of the RATS I speak with at my job. I am sick of having to counter that crap there and here too.

There is a place for rage but not when cool calculation is required. But rest assured we are NOT going to lose this and we WILL destroy our enemies.


59 posted on 09/21/2004 10:21:42 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: jwpjr

Well said BTTT. We're at the precise point (needlessly IMO) that you describe in Fallooooojia. And I understand the great things happening in towns like Samara (sic). But we have danced with some sanctuaries far too long, bastions of head-cutters. This is simply not right.


60 posted on 09/21/2004 10:25:07 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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