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Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer (Lockhart called Burkett, on Mapes' Suggestion!)
Associated Press ^ | September 20, 2004

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:32:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

Posted on Mon, Sep. 20, 2004

Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer

Associated Press

NEW YORK - At the behest of CBS, an adviser to John Kerry said he talked to a central figure in the controversy over President Bush's National Guard service shortly before disputed documents were released.

Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers. Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

"He had some advice on how to deal with the Vietnam issue and the Swift boat" allegations, Lockhart said Monday, referring to GOP-fueled accusations that Kerry exaggerated his Vietnam War record. "He said these guys play tough and we have to put the Vietnam experience into context and have Kerry talk about it more."

Lockhart said he thanked Burkett for his advice after a three to four minute call.

Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

CBS News apologized Monday for a "mistake in judgment" in its story questioning Bush's Guard service, claiming it was misled by the source of documents that several experts have dismissed as fakes.

Burkett admitted this weekend to CBS that he lied about obtaining the documents from another former National Guard member, the network said. CBS hasn't been able to conclusively tell how he got them, or even whether they're fakes or not.

Kerry ally Max Cleland, a former Georgia senator, also said he had a brief conversation last month with Burkett, who told him he had information about Bush to counter charges against Kerry's Vietnam War service. Cleland said he gave Burkett's name and phone number to the campaign's research department.

Kerry spokesman David Ginsberg said nobody in the campaign's research department followed up on Burkett's offer of information.

Lockhart said Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett. "She basically said there's a guy who is being helpful on the story who wants to talk to you," Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."


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To: Mo1

Sure does.


121 posted on 09/20/2004 5:52:19 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: 68skylark
Or maybe it's not odd -- maybe lots of "reporters" in the MSM are working with the Kerry campaign on the side.

We know Begala and Carville are, openly. You just know there are oodles of "informal" and "friendly" connections between the media and the organized parties and campaigns.

122 posted on 09/20/2004 5:52:20 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RavenATB
Burkett is crazy. I don't have much animus for crazy people. Mine is reserved for the likes of CBS and the DNC who would abridge every Americans 1A rights except their own.

I've been waiting for something like this for a long, long time. God knows I shouldn't be taking pleasure from it but thats just something we'll have to discuss whan I get to the Pearly Gates.

123 posted on 09/20/2004 5:52:40 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: mwl1
I want the resignation of Mapes tomorrow morning. For starters.

I want Mapes subpoenaed, since she obviously had a great deal of contact with Burkett and was helping him spread forged federal documents.

124 posted on 09/20/2004 5:52:46 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: SlowBoat407
"That might move the story forward? Sounds like she wanted to move the story forward by becoming part of it."

For cripes sake, SHE PRODUCED THE STORY!

125 posted on 09/20/2004 5:52:49 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: cyncooper

"...both Cleland and Lockhart make a point of saying their conversations with Burkett were 3-4 minutes..."

"I just had 2 or 3 to drink, officer."


126 posted on 09/20/2004 5:53:11 PM PDT by Socratic (Kerry/Edwards - Forging a New Reality)
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To: Motherbear
"Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."

But then Lockhart calls Burkett and "doesn't recall" discussing the records - the very reason for his call. Uh I don't think so.

Does the public realize that with all these Clinton professional liars on hand, the Kerry campaig is in the grip of totaly unethical evil? Good Lord, how corrupt a Kerry administration would be!

128 posted on 09/20/2004 5:53:34 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Dont Mention the War
At the behest of CBS, an adviser to John Kerry said he talked to a central figure in the controversy over President Bush's National Guard service shortly before disputed documents were released.

Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers. Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

Umm, Ok. So if I understand this "logic", CBS (Mapes) calls the Kerry campaign (Lockhart) asking them to see if Burkett has any sludge to smear the President with. But there's no "connection" between the Kerry campaign and the forged memos.

What kind of bizzaro thinking is that?

129 posted on 09/20/2004 5:53:39 PM PDT by PogySailor (Proud member of the RAM)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records.

Lockhart's only been on the Kerry team for a few weeks, and he already doesn't recall conversations?

He could have issued a flat-out denial that it never came up. Furthermore, the reporter paraphrased the comment rather than quoting directly.

-PJ

130 posted on 09/20/2004 5:53:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward.

Very damning.

This is proof of the co-ordination between the CBS story and the Fortunate Son ad campaign


131 posted on 09/20/2004 5:53:56 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: Vinomori
Also, Lockhart would not volunteer this unless he knew there was worse stuff ahead and he needed to get his part of the nightmare out there early to take the sting out of it.

Abso-freakin-lutely! Otherwise, there's no way he'd admit to this so easily.

132 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:10 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Dont Mention the War
I'm shocked!
133 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:24 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: Torie

Ties that bind. LOL


134 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: wildbill

I wouldn't be surprised if your sceniaro was accurate.


135 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:35 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: mystery-ak
"Exactly what I was thinking...I don't think Burkett wants to go down alone...this is only the beginning"

I think exactly what you are thinking as well -- note Blather gave Burkett no less than 3 chances to claim the forgeries were his and his alone. What does Burkett do? Leave the door open!

136 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:39 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Dont Mention the War

Lockhart is telling us that it depends on "what is...is." He didn't have "coordination with that liar..." Seems as if we've been down this path before.


137 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:51 PM PDT by reaganite
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To: A Citizen Reporter
For cripes sake, SHE PRODUCED THE STORY!

And now she IS the story!! Tough luck, Mapes, you were trying to do some maneuvering behind the scenes and you ran all over yourself!

138 posted on 09/20/2004 5:54:59 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: All
Check it out:

Lockhart on speaking with Burkett (from thread link):

Lockhart said he thanked Burkett for his advice after a three to four minute call.

Now here is Cleland from this link:

Parallels Drawn Between CBS Memos, Texan's Postings

excerpt:

Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said. "You get this information tens of times a day, and you don't know if it is legit or not."

~snip~

139 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:08 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: mystery-ak

What I want to know is why the hell a CBS news producer, at least one in his or her right mind, would even think it was permissible to contact a member of either party's presidential campaign?


140 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:11 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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