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Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer (Lockhart called Burkett, on Mapes' Suggestion!)
Associated Press ^ | September 20, 2004

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:32:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

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To: Cboldt
You just know there are oodles of "informal" and "friendly" connections between the media and the organized parties and campaigns.

I guess you're right.

If the media did this kind of s*** with a business story (for example, slyly alerting a friend of upcoming news that might drive a stock price up or down) I think the reporter would be fired and prosecuted.

But since it's only the future of the country at stake, the stakes are a lot lower!

141 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:23 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Dog

"You know what is going on here...
Open warfare in the Kerry Camp.....someone(nope not Mary Beth Cahill) leaked the fact that Joe Lockhart talked with Burkett and Mapes."

I agree. Lockhart would not have been smoked out yet by a fear of Burkett phone records being released. He admitted it before he had ever really been tagged for the call. There's something else going on, someone else had the goods on him and made him 'fess up.


142 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:25 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Loyal member of the Pajama Republic)
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To: Dog
someone just threw Lockhart into the tar pit....LOL!

Yea ... but they also opened a big ole can of worms in the process

ok .. pass the popcorn please :0)

143 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:52 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Oh man! How worst can this story get for CBS. Mapes contacting the Kerry camp to have them call their protected source! Oh WOW, this is a major..MAJOR no-no.


144 posted on 09/20/2004 5:56:12 PM PDT by The Bandit
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To: Dont Mention the War

145 posted on 09/20/2004 5:56:25 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant (hey N.Y. here come the sox)
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To: Motherbear
Texas poker at its finest:

CBS places 'opening bet' by reporting original story;

Bush 'Checks' by passing on to other media and staying in game

FR questions validity (another card is played)

CBS 'bluffs' by standing behind story

Bush raises by saying further explanation needed

CBS 'calls' by backing off story

Bush 'raises' again by asking for explanation of Dem involvement

Uh Oh, it looks like CBS got caught hiding a card up its sleeve, plus there's another player in the game with whom they're colluding?

This just keeps getting better and better!

146 posted on 09/20/2004 5:56:25 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More ( Kerry is the Hanoi candidate)
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To: Mo1

They may all lead to the DNC, but there may be infighting in the palace. This story is fishy. First it is by AP who have made a career of not investigating Democrats. This story was a plant. Lockhart statement of I do not recall was unnecessary. The Clinotonians want to make sure that Kerry follows a bad August with a bad September. Lockhart only shot to get back on the government payroll is Hillary 2008.


147 posted on 09/20/2004 5:56:30 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Dog
You know what is going on here...

Open warfare in the Kerry Camp.....someone(nope not Mary Beth Cahill) leaked the fact that Joe Lockhart talked with Burkett and Mapes.

The long knives are out..

someone just threw Lockhart into the tar pit....LOL!

Yes. This looks like panic; people are starting to be jettisoned. This may all end up historic -- it is starting to develop some of the characteristics.

Collusion between powerful groups such as the DNC/DLC and CBS; forged documents; citizens investigating -- history tends to repeat itself, and this in some ways reminds me of the Dreyfus Affair.

148 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:20 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: JustaCowgirl

Inside the DNC the long knives are out. The next few days may be a lot more about 2008 than 2004.


149 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:26 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Tallguy

Don't forget that the Boston Globe and USA Today also came up with the documents independently.

There is no way a producer at CBS like Mapes would call up her competition and give the "scoop" away.

So who called them on or around the same time frame about these documents? Who else had access according to Burkette's posting in Aug on the internet?


150 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:36 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: cyncooper

Thanks for the heads up .. I just turned it on


151 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: BigKahuna

**What I want to know is why the hell a CBS news producer, at least one in his or her right mind, would even think it was permissible to contact a member of either party's presidential campaign?**

BINGO! That is the big question!


152 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:45 PM PDT by LBelle
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To: Tallguy

" I guess that Lockhart & Clelland figured they'd better get out in front of the story before Burkett's phone records came out."

Bingo.
Next they'll be hiring big time DC defense lawyers.


153 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:46 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: nonkultur

Imagine the rage if FOX News contacted the Bush campaign in
a similar situation.


154 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:04 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Bearshouse
X42 got Lockheart a job at Oracle. He was fired pretty quickly.

Back to D.C. to the sewer patrol.

155 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:09 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: wildbill

I think your call sequence makes a lot of sense.


156 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:25 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: Dont Mention the War

This is grounds for the White House to pull the press credentials of anyone working for CBS News. These people aren't reporters, they are literally Democratic Party operatives.

157 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:33 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers

Am I missing something here? Didn't the Dems use the forgeries in political ads that started running within a day or days of the 60 Minutes broadcast? In fact, aren't they still running them?

It does take a little time to edit a political spot and get it distributed out to all the stations for broadcast. I wonder what the normal turnaround time is for this and what was actually achieved by the Dems. There could be a smoking gun here if anyone has some hard data.

158 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:43 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Dog
Open warfare in the Kerry Camp.....someone(nope not Mary Beth Cahill) leaked the fact that Joe Lockhart talked with Burkett and Mapes.

There have been rumors that the Kerry/kennedy group (cahill et al) have been upset with first the addition of the Gorons (shrumm et all) and now the Clintonista's (Lockjaw, carvile, forehead), and that the Gorons hate the clintonistas.

I think you are right .... either Shrumm or one of the Kennedy clique saw the opportunity to toss some of the newly brought on Clinton gang under the bus.

Either that or Lockjaw admission is just Round One in the Clinton plan to ensure torpedoing of Kerry.

159 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:46 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Biblebelter
First it is by AP who have made a career of not investigating Democrats. This story was a plant.

I used to work for the AP. They're not doing the investigating. They just know they have to get it on the wire so they can play on it before the other guys. Strictly business. That doesn't mean they're enjoying it.

160 posted on 09/20/2004 5:58:47 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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