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Rather issues apology
Newsday, AP ^ | 21SEP04 | VERNE GAY AND THOMAS FRANK STAFF WRITERS; The Associated Press contributed to this story

Posted on 09/21/2004 2:52:00 AM PDT by familyop

"Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes. . . Yesterday's action comes 12 days after CBS reported that Mapes had obtained memos from the files of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian..."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apologized; apologizes; apology; burkett; bush; campaign; cbs; dan; document; forged; kerry; killian; lockhart; mapes; mary; memo; president; rather
...maybe a few details not already covered. And of course it has to do with what is essentially the Kerry Campaign (left/liberal media).
1 posted on 09/21/2004 2:52:00 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop
SeeBS says "We were misled."

IF that is REALLY the case, they should all be fired for being TOO STUPID.

More likely, they should be fired for committing a fraud over the airwaves.

2 posted on 09/21/2004 2:55:51 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ ((considering upgrading to pajamas))
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To: familyop
Apologize to the President, Dan! Then just get lost..... but come back for your court appearances!
3 posted on 09/21/2004 2:56:24 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: familyop

The problem is HOW to investigate it. First, I don't trust big media to do an adequate job. Secondly, we only have to look at the nonconsequences to X42 to see how government would botch up this investigation and perhaps it should not be their role to do it anyway. Thirdly, bloggers' ability to break the story originally required the capacity to see the documents and debunk them. I don't know how they are able to track down a chain of evidence or discover secret conversations between people. since there is nothing to see.
I'm afraid that what big media wanted to happen will happen.........apologize and it will go away. I hope I'm wrong.


4 posted on 09/21/2004 3:01:16 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: familyop

Lockhart said ... said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

"does not recall" being the operative words... Lockhart participated.

Max Cleland - Texas Road Trip - talked to Burkett.

C-BS - when quized about whether or not the Kerry campaign was involved last week ... did not deny.

Deduction: Kerry campaign up to its neck in this.


5 posted on 09/21/2004 3:05:32 AM PDT by xtinct (Incite into Massachusetts Politics)
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To: familyop

Neither CBS or Rather were "Mislead".....

They were caught "RED" handed.....

If they hadn't been they would still be peddling their propaganist screed...as fact.

imo


6 posted on 09/21/2004 3:11:49 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: xtinct

It's getting better really fast.

CBS Producer [Ms. Mapes] called Kerry advisor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1222255/posts


7 posted on 09/21/2004 3:20:50 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: All

Y'all want an excellent laugh? See Jim's post about Burkett.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1222253/posts


8 posted on 09/21/2004 3:23:19 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

I don't listen to anything Dan Rather says anymore, but according to FoxNews, Rather's apology was hedged. He basically stated that he still thinks the documents are real, but he can't prove it. And he defended his sources.

Sounds like a non-apology to me.


9 posted on 09/21/2004 4:24:08 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: familyop
And now for the latest edition of the DUmmie FUnnies on the subject of Memogate. My humble Tom Servo comments on the DUmmie universe are in the [brackets]:

I'm telling you, Dan Rather is on KKKarl Rove's payroll. He's on his knees in front of that fat, slimy, sleazeball like a WH intern.

[Uh-oh! This DUmmie is on to us! He has discovered our secret Rovian plot to pay off Dan Rather. Yes, every week KARL ROVE meets Dan late at night at a Manhattan Dunkin' Donuts and hands him a bag full of bills totalling $79. Oh, and at the next table over, gobbling down bag after bag of donuts, is a certain former WH intern.]

Kerry just has to be prepared for Rove. They'll try to make this crap stick and Kerry just has to ready for to counter it. I have faith that he's got good people around him who will come up with something great.

[Better check under your bed. KARL ROVE is probably there secretly taping you. Everywhere you look you will see KARL ROVE. See that dark shadow in the alley? It's KARL ROVE! And one of the "good people" around Kerry? It's KARL ROVE in disguise!!!]

I think it's time to stop letting them push us around. If they want to make a case out of these then we take them to court for the Swift Boats for Truth. CONGRESS WE DEMEND A INQUIRY FOR THAT! NO MORE DOUBLE STANDARDS!

[This was apparently posted by a DUmmie but it must really be KARL ROVE. Yet another devious Rovian plot to give publicity for the Swift Boats for Truth. Watch out, DUmmies! KARL ROVE is roving amongst you. Hee! Hee!]

I knew Rove and his fellow trolls were diabolical, but I never knew just how good they were until today. I tried catching bits and pieces of several news shows on most of the cable channels and every show talked about how this is going to, or already has, sunk Dan Rather's career and the credibility of CBS news. And you can see everyone's eyes sparkling with joy!! What a great story! "Oh, it's a dark day for journalism, but god I'm having an orgasm."

[Yes! It's all part of Rove's diabolical plot to drive the DUmmies completely insane.....and it's WORKING!!!]

I was so excited when cbs aired the memo show. I figured that this would tie the dink to his record and would point to his lack of integrity and vile habit of lying about everything.

[SNIFF! Yet another DUmmie victim of a diabolical Rovian plot.]

"Lucy Ramirez" is obviously not a real person. A woman using that name called Burkett, and arranged a meet. But she never showed up at the meet. Instead, a man passed Burkett the papers. I would not be surprised if the RNC were behind this--passing crude forgeries in an effort to discredit the Bush AWOL story.

[By God! This ingenious DUmmie discovered the plot. Lucy Ramirez=Karl Rove. Notice how both last names start with the letter "R".]

Give these women a call, and ask them. "ARE YOU THE LUCY RAMIREZ THAT CALLED BURKETT? DON'T LIE TO ME. TELL THE TRUTH."

["You want the truth? Okay, I'LL GIVE YOU THE TRUTH!!! MY NAME IS KARL ROVE AND I CALLED BURKETT USING A FALSETTO VOICE!!!"]

I Googled Lucy Ramirez in news, just the thread story so far. Who is she?

[It's a good thing you didn't google Lucy Ramirez at a Motel Six since she is really KARL ROVE.]

. Here's a Lucy Ramirez . . . as executive director of a hospital that serves the poor in Hidalgo County, Texas. But I'm sure there are thousands of Lucy Ramirez's in south Texas.

[And MILLIONS of Karl Roves EVERYWHERE. In fact there is a smirking KARL ROVE standing right behind you at this very moment.]

Lucy Ramirez in 2000 was the woman who gave Repigs Gore's... tape of his debate speech. She worked for the bush campaign. The whole thing was that she was set up by karl rove, but was forced to take the blame and was fired. Much like Dan Rather is taking the blame and he was only the messanger.

[KARL ROVE! KARL ROVE! SLOOOOOOOWLY I TURNED, STEP BY STEP...]

No way! Are you saying the tape thing was done by a 'Lucy Ramirez' style shadow figure?

[Need I even mention the name of that "shadow figure?" karl rove. Oops! Excuse me. That just slipped out.]

It was a Bush operative who gave a tape to the Gore campaign. Her name was Yvette Lozano.

[Lucy Ramirez. Yvette Lozano. The confusion is easily explained. All those Spanish names sound the same. But the real name of both of these operatives was....KARL ROVE.]

When something is as convoluted and obtuse as this story is, I see Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Keep looking behind the curtains, you're gonna find Rove eventually.

[I SEE KARL ROVE! I SEE KARL ROVE UNDER MY BED! BEHIND THE CURTAINS! IN THE SHOWER! IN MY BASEMENT! ON MY ROOF! SEE THAT SHADOW? IT'S KARL ROVE! KARL ROVE IS EVERYWHERE!!! AND NOW HE IS HIDING IN THE DEEP DARK CREVICES OF MY MIND! AND I CAN'T GET HIM OUT! AGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!}

And here's the guy, Roger Stone, who is the link Stone and Rove go way, way back to Reagan and Lee Atwater, may be the source of the documents. This is the same guy who organized and paid the Miami Mob during the recount and then went on to join Al Sharpton's campaign. Folks if this is true, we have a direct link to the WH.

[It doesn't matter if it is true or not. Just type up official looking documents tying them together on your computer and fax the papers from Kinkos to Mary Mapes at CBS News. And if it backfires, then it proves this was a diablolical KARL ROVE plot.]

10 posted on 09/21/2004 4:25:47 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (What's the Forgery, Dan!!!???)
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To: PJ-Comix

I didn't see the apology, but I can imagine it was sort of a Clinton apology. Means nothing.


11 posted on 09/21/2004 4:56:51 AM PDT by daddyOwe (If God wanted me to be a liberal he would of given me less brains)
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To: daddyOwe

There is no apology, only a regret that the documents did not support their theory. I think that some one should put together a timeline of the contacts between Burkett, CBS and the DNC (Cahill, Cleland, Lockhart etc.) to verify if any of the "explainations" hold water.


12 posted on 09/21/2004 5:13:36 AM PDT by jshermn
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To: Ed_in_NJ

I agree. So Rather has now very clearly apologized and admitted wrongdoing on the part of CBS. He should address his apology to our President, because that's who his left/liberal gang tried to wrong the most.

Whether Dan has any shame or not, though (not), the Kerry Campaign just sunk a lot further last night. We'll have enough jokes about Democrats to keep us laughing for the next four years.


13 posted on 09/21/2004 7:44:54 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: daddyOwe

Lockhart...Mary Mapes...lawsuit from Burkett. LOL! It just keeps gettin' better!


14 posted on 09/21/2004 8:01:52 AM PDT by familyop (Ten years ago, I murdered the feminazi lobby from within.)
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To: xtinct
Rather was CORRECT!!!

His accusation that "Partisan Political Operatives" were involved in this.

So far the operatives:Rather, Cleland, Mapes, Lockhart and ... are lining up.

Now who says Dan doesn't report the TRUTH?

15 posted on 09/21/2004 8:12:38 AM PDT by GivemeaBREAK!
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To: familyop

I'll kind of miss not having Tizzy to kick around any more.


16 posted on 09/21/2004 1:32:00 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ ((considering upgrading to pajamas))
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To: familyop

Too late, schmeckel!


17 posted on 09/21/2004 1:34:41 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

"Too late, schmeckel!"

That is what my daughter named her cat. And she is Goy. Woof.


18 posted on 11/28/2004 2:45:35 PM PST by lawdude (Leftists see what they believe. Conservatives believe what they see.)
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