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Lincoln Chaffee Explains Why He Might not Vote for W (Iraqis Had Better Services under Saddam!)
CNN - Inside Politics

Posted on 09/21/2004 12:39:25 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Maybe Chaffed-#ss should take a look at this before he opens his liberal pie hole:

John Kerry gave his first "All Iraq, All The Time" speech on Monday. This is part of a plan on Kerry's part to relentlessly hammer on the Iraq theme - using the problems in Iraq as a club to flog President Bush with in the hopes that by election day just enough Americans would be fooled to propel John Kerry into the White House. Lets take a look at what Kerry said.

Kerry said this about the Iraqi security forces:

The President should urgently expand the security forces training program inside and outside Iraq...He should recruit thousands of qualified trainers from our allies, especially those who have no troops in Iraq. He should press our NATO allies to open training centers in their countries. While the situation for the Iraqi security forces is:

"Iraqi police cadet Meqdad al-Izzawi once served Saddam Hussein as a navy officer. Now, he says he is taking one of the most dangerous jobs in the new Iraq because he wants to serve his people. " 'My hope is to execute the law in Iraq and restore stability to the Iraqi people, because we never enjoyed security, even under Saddam Hussein,' said the 28-year-old al-Izzawi, one of 1,559 Iraqi recruits attending basic police training at a U.S.-run camp in the Jordanian desert...

John Kerry has this to say about the attitude of the Iraqi people:

most Iraqis have lost faith in our ability to deliver meaningful improvements to their lives. So they’re sitting on the fence… instead of siding with us against the insurgents. While a recent poll of Iraqi's found this:

"More than 77% of respondents feel that 'regular, fair elections' would be the most important political right for the Iraqi people and 58% feel that democracy in Iraq is likely to succeed. When asked about the upcoming elections, 62.2% expressed confidence that their ballot selection would be kept secret and above 75% felt that the elections would reflect the will of the Iraqi people. "Iraqis remain optimistic about the future and committed to seeing Iraq through her democratic transition. 50% disagree with the statement that 'my life was better before the war.' In contrast to daily media reports of the hardships of today's Iraq, more than 70% of respondents would not leave their country if given the opportunity to live elsewhere. An overwhelming majority express an optimistic streak that belies foreign naysayers, with 75% expressing hopefulness about the future...

Kerry on Iraqs electricity supply:

Residents of Baghdad are suffering electricity blackouts lasting up to 14 hours a day. While the situation actually is:

"U.S. engineers have helped place seven generators on line this month in Iraq, bringing the national electricity capacity to more than 5,300 megawatts - a level that exceeds the country's pre-war capacity of 4,400 megawatts." On and on it goes - John Kerry either cherry-picks a bad situation out of a host of good things, or just downright misrepresents the facts altogether. The main thrust of Kerry's argument being that Iraq is an utter failure and that President Bush is personally responsible for this utter failure. The only thing which can derail Kerry's argument and plan is, well, reality. As the quotes I've posted above show, things are not all doom and gloom in Iraq...never have been. Even in the worst of it back in April and May, huge progress was being made - and more and more progress is made every day.

Kerry's speech does clarify precisely what Kerry is all about - defeatism on the issue of Iraq and by extension the larger war on terrorism; and in his speech he tells us what he would actually do. If we would follow Kerry's plane, then:

we could begin to withdraw U.S. forces starting next summer and realistically aim to bring all our troops home within the next four years. In other words, we can set our surrender for a date certain in the future and allow our enemies to know just when they can start their bloody massacre of all Iraqi's who have fought alongside us and yearn to breath free. This isn't a plan - its a plea for surrender; and for Kerry a surrender is ok if it will somehow elevate him to the White House. Thus we see now just how despicable Kerry is - after a youth urging us to surrender in one war in order to advance Kerry's political career, he hopes to cap it all off with one last surrender to advance himself to the highest post.

As for me, I'm delighted that the issue is fully joined - I am completely convinced that a debate over Iraq will help President Bush on election day. One has to keep in mind that the news has only appeared bad in Iraq because a bunch of anti-American, one-sided reporting is all we've gotten out of the place. Train the spotlight on Iraq and the whole truth will come out - and the truth about Iraq is that its been a major success in the President's strategy to win the War on Terrorism.

Lets have at it - Kerry's defeatism vs. President Bush's battle for victory.


21 posted on 09/21/2004 12:51:01 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Germany was much happier under Hitler. I miss the days when he Romans marched over the world. /sarcasm


22 posted on 09/21/2004 12:52:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The Iraqi people don't even have the services they had under Saddam Hussein.

Nitric acid and industrial shredder sales are down, to be sure...

23 posted on 09/21/2004 12:53:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Who cares what Lincoln does? He has never worked with the party - why should he now.


24 posted on 09/21/2004 12:54:32 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

That statement sounds like Murray's praise of the Taliban.


25 posted on 09/21/2004 12:55:20 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Uncle Vlad

McCain needs to just get it overwith already and put the D next to his name.


26 posted on 09/21/2004 12:55:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

With the power outages they can't even run the Husseins' plastic and people shredder all day. Fortunately because those thugs are gone the shredder isn't run any time in the day anymore.


27 posted on 09/21/2004 12:55:57 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (cong rec 27.3.86 jk speech doubleplusungood malreported cambodia rectify)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Women's reproductive freedoms" What a douche. Nobody this side of China infringes on a woman's freedom to reproduce. It's when you stick scissors in the head of that reproduced life that we get upset.

Time for this sissy to visit the woodshed. No committee appointments, no support for pork. Let him and Jim Jeffords go live in the forest together wearing tights.

28 posted on 09/21/2004 12:56:57 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: All
Like the 'services' Saddam provided to the citizens of Halabja?


29 posted on 09/21/2004 12:57:01 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I don't understand what his criteria are for "good RI Republican." What exactly does that mean? It's like saying, "I'm a good citizen of the galaxy." Yes... and?

I would suggest giving him to the Democrats, but I don't know if they would even want the wishy washy son of a gun.

30 posted on 09/21/2004 12:58:36 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Billthedrill

Was Chaffee even elected by the people in RI or did he take over his Dads position?


31 posted on 09/21/2004 12:58:55 PM PDT by finallyatexan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The trains ran on time.


32 posted on 09/21/2004 1:01:37 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Can we trade Chaffee for Zell Miller??


34 posted on 09/21/2004 1:02:51 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I just heard someone on FOX discuss the fact that the electricity keeps going out in Baghdad, saying that the reasonis that they have all bought new appliances that they never had before and are so excited that they try to run all of them and turn on all the lights at the same time, over loading the system. They have no patience, they want everything that they never had, and they want it now.


35 posted on 09/21/2004 1:05:52 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Ali Barber

Yes he is. And he's no RINO. Compared to McVain he's a conservative. He's doing a great job of rebuilding the republican party in MA. At one point in history, MA repubs were very conservative.
Want to drive a demo nuts? Just ask them who the first black senator was (Edward W Brooke). What state did he come from (MA). What party was he in (repubs).


37 posted on 09/21/2004 1:09:03 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (02NOV04 - A date which will live in Pajama Party history.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Send chafer to Iraq, or Canada. I don't really care. He's the same old stinky Communist turd in Republican's clothing his dad was. A real SHI*BIRD.


38 posted on 09/21/2004 1:10:32 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: King Prout
AFAIK, he is factually incorrect regarding Iraqis and the availability of basic utilities, education, and other services.

Whether he is factually correct misses a very important point, as do all of the Iraq War critics. YOU DON"T ASSESS THE SITUATION WHEN YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONFLICT! Of course there are problems. Does anyone think that such a monumental converstion would go off without conflict? We went into this knowing that it would take time and it would get worse before it gets better. This type of timing is analogous to asking somebody in the middle of a root-canal procedure if he's glad he had the procedure. There are things in life, like war, like root-canals, you name it, when you enter into an event where you know that it will be rough for a while, but IF YOU STAY THE COURSE you will make it through and the conditions beyond the event will be well worth the sacrifice you went through during the trying time.

The other thing about this type of criticism is that it is self-fulfilling. The insurgency is getting worse AT THIS VERY TIME PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO AFFECT OUR ELECTIONS, and the terrorists love the instant, predictable, dependable gratification that they get from the likes of Kerry and the liberal media. Much like the Viet Cong loved the results they saw in the American media and the anti-war movement in the 60s. People need to realize when the statements they make are being exploited by our enemies. Kerry is a habitual offender of such statements.
39 posted on 09/21/2004 1:11:49 PM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: My Favorite Headache

ACU Rating:

John McCain: 86
Lincoln Chaffe: 42

Look, you might not like McCain, but he's not even in Chaffe's league in RINOism.


40 posted on 09/21/2004 1:13:02 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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