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1 posted on 09/21/2004 9:00:52 PM PDT by Cableguy
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It seems Kerry talked about it AFTERWARDS, but NOT before, the WP is trying to whitewash it, but I think it actually just makes it worse.

"The meeting, however, was not a secret. Kerry, a leading antiwar activist at the time, mentioned it in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April of that year. "I have been to Paris," he testified. "I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and Provisional Revolutionary Government," the latter a South Vietnamese communist group with ties to the Viet Cong.


2 posted on 09/21/2004 9:03:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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Um, he secretly met with them BEFORE testifying in Congress. Unless, of course, he put out statements immediately after the Parisian meetings that said he just met with the NVA.

Telling Congress about it one year later doesn't mean he didn't meet with them secretly the previous year.


3 posted on 09/21/2004 9:03:59 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War, testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for two hours about alleging widespread atrocities by U.S. troops, and the official policies in Vietnam which were illegal, according to international law. He asks the Congressional panel "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"
"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Check out the John F. Kerry Timeline. Email it to your friends.
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4 posted on 09/21/2004 9:04:05 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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Well, I know that he refuses to reveal what hwe discussed with them, he says he can't remember, which is preposterous. I don't recall how secret the meeting was, it wasn't held in public though. The real story is that he met with them at all, as an anti war zealot.


5 posted on 09/21/2004 9:04:45 PM PDT by Williams
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I see the Post is lying again, saying that some charges made by the Swift Vets have been refuted.


7 posted on 09/21/2004 9:05:47 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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Looks like the Swifties are getting to the liberals!

Hannity said "UNFIT FOR COMMAND" is still #1 on the NY Times list.

Keep the ads on the air. Donate to the Swiftvets.

( and watch their latest ad, if you haven't seen it yet)

http://www.swiftvets.com


8 posted on 09/21/2004 9:06:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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Cool, the Wash Post is reporting about the ad. That'll do just fine


9 posted on 09/21/2004 9:06:16 PM PDT by madison46 (Bandwagon was full when it left the gate - I hope it remains too full for frogs & co.)
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Umm, This ad is not targeted toward the civilians of the US. It is targeted to the Nam Vets, to stir up their feelings towards Jane, and associate it with sKeery. Great move.


11 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:22 PM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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Afterward, not before!

Apparently those morons at WAPO don't know that Kerry met with the VietCong delegation in Paris, but NOT with the American delegation (nor did he tell the American delegation he was even in town).


12 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:33 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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I think the Kerry campaign should focus the next 6 weeks exclusively on hard-hitting ads showing that Kerry's negotiations with the enemy in Paris really weren't "secret" and that he actually voted against the assassination plot in Kansas City. That would show his "fighting mood," and I'm sure a majority of voters would flock to his side.


13 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:39 PM PDT by Burma Jones
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The meeting, however, was not a secret. Kerry, a leading antiwar activist at the time, mentioned it in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April of that year.

The previous year, actually. Kerry met with North Vietnamese and Vietcong leaders in Paris in late May or early June of 1970. His infamous testimony before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations was on April 22, 1971.

"Home to War" author Gerald Nicosia wrote that a second Kerry confab in Paris is documented in the VVAW FBI files, but I haven't found any indication when that occurred or where that reference is...

15 posted on 09/21/2004 9:12:09 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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He also told Congress in that testimony;

Senator, I will say this. I think that politically, historically,the one thing that people try to do, that society is structured on as a whole, is an attempt to satisfy their felt needs, and you can satisfy those needs with almost any kind of political structure, giving it one name or the other. In this name it is democratic; in other it is communism; in others it is benevolent dictatorship. As long as those needs are satisfied, that structure will exist.

To him there is not much difference between communism and democracy as long as you satisfy peoples needs. It is now clear to me why he has no idea what the President's vision is, freedom and democracy really aren't the issue to John Effin Kerry.

17 posted on 09/21/2004 9:16:40 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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Wasn't Kerry still an officially commisioned naval officer at the time he met with the NV delegation? That alone poses lots of juicy issues...


20 posted on 09/21/2004 9:19:40 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Savor the present as the days of Kerry's whine and poses. It'll be a nice memory when you are old.)
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What a POS article. F^cking LMSM typical response.


21 posted on 09/21/2004 9:19:52 PM PDT by BurbankErnie (I am an oxymoron - a California Republican)
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What a silly argument. Meeting secretly implies you met secretly.

It does not say anything about keeping silent about it for all eternity.


25 posted on 09/21/2004 9:22:42 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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The Post was obviously a bit understaffed today.

They stuck their Style beat reporter on a hard news story, never a good idea.

E-mail him (as charitably as possible), telling him that secret meetings are secret at the time of the meeting, but not necessarily a year later. Secret events can be made public after the fact, and the Swifties only are saying he met secretly, not that it was kept such.

Paul Farhi:

farhip@washpost.com


26 posted on 09/21/2004 9:27:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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Washington Post does their best to try to clean up for Kerry, but this is a stain that just won't come out.


27 posted on 09/21/2004 9:29:28 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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Historian Douglas Brinkley said Kerry's trip to Paris, after his honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, was part of Kerry's extensive fact-finding efforts on the war. "He was on the fringes," said Brinkley, the author of "Tour of Duty," a book about Kerry's military service. "But he was proud of it. . . . He wanted to make his own evaluation of the situation."

How arrogant can anyone possibly be? Why does Kerry have a right to walk on the edge and proclaim to be proud of it because HE wanted to do HIS OWN evaluation......

Gee maybe a few of us should go to Iraq and Afghanistan and do our own evaluation.....how far do you think we would get?


35 posted on 09/21/2004 9:42:43 PM PDT by HannaUSA
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36 posted on 09/21/2004 9:49:15 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Once a back-stabber, always a back-stabber))))
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He did secretly meet with the Enemy. And he did so more than once. WaPo shouldn't be in the business of defending John Kerry no matter what.


38 posted on 09/21/2004 9:51:53 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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