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The Conservative Case Against George W. Bush
New York Press ^ | September 22-28, 2004 | William Bryk

Posted on 09/22/2004 5:32:31 AM PDT by Dazedcat

Theodore Roosevelt, that most virile of presidents, insisted that, "To announce that there should be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American people."...........

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No doubt I'll get flamed out of existence for posting this particular story.......but I found it compelling.....and truthful for the most part. If someone can counter this author and tell me why I should vote again for GWB, feel free.
1 posted on 09/22/2004 5:32:31 AM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: Dazedcat

because the alternative is john kerry.


2 posted on 09/22/2004 5:33:57 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Admin Moderator

Early in the morning Zot.


3 posted on 09/22/2004 5:35:25 AM PDT by the lone highschooler (Random taglines rule)
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To: Dazedcat

Foolish.


4 posted on 09/22/2004 5:36:29 AM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 2D Combined Action Group Viet Nam 70-71)
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To: Dazedcat

You have a binary choice: Bush or Jean Claude Kerry`

Welcome to relality.


5 posted on 09/22/2004 5:36:53 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Dan Rather should simply go away quietly, forever.)
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To: Dazedcat

Because John Kerry will get us killed by the thousands if elected.


6 posted on 09/22/2004 5:36:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: newsgatherer
because the alternative is john kerry.

Exactly.

Expanding on that, because Bush recognizes that we are in a war with Islamofascists who seek to destroy us. The paleo-conservative right and the Democratic party do not recognize this fact. The former, instead, chooses to scapegoat Israel, and the latter chooses to blame America.

The author's equation of Padilla with a simple thief is utterly laughable. Padilla was meeting with Khalid Mohammed and other Al Qaeda bigwigs in an effort to plot a dirty bomb attack. If the author thinks Padilla should be ignored or set free, all I can say is that I hope Padilla moves in next door to the author so he can see firsthand what sort of monster we're detaining.

7 posted on 09/22/2004 5:37:11 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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"because the alternative is john kerry."

So be it. When you vote for the lesser of two evils, all you get is evil. Let the people get a taste of undiluted (as opposed to diluted) socialism. The taste will be so unpleasant that they will reject it for all time.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 5:37:56 AM PDT by Stop_Neocons (Only a fool sticks his hand in a hornet's nest)
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To: Dazedcat

"No doubt I'll get flamed out of existence for posting this particular story.......but I found it compelling.....and truthful for the most part. If someone can counter this author and tell me why I should vote again for GWB, feel free."


The mere fact that you on this particular date in time need to ask the question for reasons you should vote for President Bush is not a pretty picture.

I doubt that there is anything, anyone could say to you to make you vote for President Bush, so why bother to waste time and space.


9 posted on 09/22/2004 5:38:28 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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"Islamofascists "

Please, stop reading The Weekly Standard. I'll bet you say "homicide bomber" too!


10 posted on 09/22/2004 5:39:08 AM PDT by Stop_Neocons (Only a fool sticks his hand in a hornet's nest)
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To: Stop_Neocons

"When you vote for the lesser of two evils, all you get is evil."


What do you get if you vote for a candidate who has no chance of winning anyway?


11 posted on 09/22/2004 5:40:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: Dazedcat

Don't feel bad for not being a hero worshipper. So many people have such boring lives they try to dream or hope for salvation outside themselves.
Rugged individualism is dead in America.
I wouldn't worry about being flamed. I respect your courage for taking on the masses.
I do it myself on occassions.


12 posted on 09/22/2004 5:40:41 AM PDT by snakeoil (A+Bert)
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To: Dazedcat

If I have to splain it to you, you wouldn't understand.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 5:40:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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Nothing wrong with criticism -- President or otherwise.

I found nothing compelling in the article; perhaps you could site a specific point you that sways you from voting for America?

14 posted on 09/22/2004 5:41:38 AM PDT by ez2muz
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"So be it. When you vote for the lesser of two evils, all you get is evil. Let the people get a taste of undiluted (as opposed to diluted) socialism. The taste will be so unpleasant that they will reject it for all time."

Really. Then you are no better than those who seek socialism if you plan to hand it to them with your vote.


15 posted on 09/22/2004 5:41:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Stop_Neocons
"Islamofascists "

Please, stop reading The Weekly Standard. I'll bet you say "homicide bomber" too!

Well, as someone said after Reagan's "evil empire" speech, let's break down the phrase.

"Islamo". Are you suggesting that Al Qaeda and so forth are not tied to an Islamist philosophy?

"Fascist". Are you suggesting that their philosophy is not totalitarian?

"Homicide bomber". Well, they bomb in order to murder people. Are you suggesting that they don't bomb and/or that they don't murder people?

16 posted on 09/22/2004 5:41:53 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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The problem with the looneytarian crowd is that they consider it to be a contest between "two evils". It's not. It's between two guys with two visions.

Like it or not, this is about whether or not we choose to win or lose this war. The Lew Rockwell crowd would like to avoid that choice and pretend that the majority of Americans can be convinced to think along the lines of John Galt's speech from Atlas Shrugged.

They are divorced from reality. There is a war on. That's reality.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

17 posted on 09/22/2004 5:43:03 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Dazedcat

The story is compellingly stupid!


18 posted on 09/22/2004 5:43:46 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: Dazedcat

Ill give you another Theodore Roosevelt quote....maybe you can identify which candidate embodies who he is talking about and which candidate is the one we dont want to be...

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt; US President


19 posted on 09/22/2004 5:43:47 AM PDT by donnab
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To: Dazedcat

If we REALLY need to answer that question for you, than you are truly living up to your screen name.


20 posted on 09/22/2004 5:45:24 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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