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Why Rathergate Matters
Vanity | September 22, 2004 | Me: No Longer Free State

Posted on 09/22/2004 4:02:28 PM PDT by No Longer Free State

Why Rathergate is Important

The reason Rathergate is important has nothing to do with Dan Rather or CBS. The reason it is important is about the threat this scandal presents to our 1st Ammendment rights to freedom of expression.

That's right, I said "our" rights. The First Ammendment from which we derive the government's responsibility to protect our inherent right to freedom of expression is about the rights of all individuals equally, not the rights of a few select members of any protected class, like reporters. This is a notion many -- if not the majority -- in the main stream media have long lost sight of, but it's one they need to be reminded of if this scandal is to lead to any good for anyone.

Consider: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This language protects the rights of all the individuals that make up this nation, not the right of reporters to print whatever they want with impunity. It protects our right to have access to dissenting political voices. The press is just one venue through which we acheive that access. Reporters are allowed to protect confidential sources not to keep investigative reporters in business with access to whistle-blowers' juicy stories, but because we have a right to hear from those whistle-blowers who might otherwise be intimidated into silence by individuals in government who forget that it's their job to serve us, not the other way around. This right relies on the press presenting true facts, weeding out lies, and presenting opinions as opinion, not fact.

The folks who both gave the forged documents to CBS and the folks at CBS who presented them as authentic with cursory and flawed analysis threaten our rights. Why? Because they are abusing them. Abuse of rights by a few has always been considered grounds for trampling rights for all.

Consider: Had a relative few never abused our right to keep and bear arms to commit criminal acts, would that right have been trampled in the congress and courts as it has been? Would anyone have wasted the effort in distorting the interpretation of "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" that has happened in so many of our communities (to their detriment)? Instead, the lawbreakers offered a justification in the minds of the gun control crowd that the rights of the many are subordinate to their preferred solution to the crime problem.

Consider another section of the First Ammendment that has been distorted by abuse. The words "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" have been intentionally distorted by those who have abused their right not to believe in any religion. They have convinced sympathetic courts to override these words, particularly the last clause. Because of them, our right to practice our religion freely in public has been trampled.

It would take much too much space than I care to dedicate here to chronicle the abuses we've faced to due process, property rights and other rights that were supposed to be protected by the Fifth Ammendment. The sixth ammendment has been overinterpreted to provide special rights for criminals rather than to balance their rights with those of their victims.

Bottom line: It CAN happen because it HAS happened in the past.

Getting back to Rathergate, our right to hear what a free press has to say is subject to trampling as much as our other aforementioned rights have been. We've all seen various misguided individuals, groups, and government officials calling for a governmental solution to the falsified documents and their presentation by CBS. If CBS, the media industry, and we citizens allow government to fix this problem for us, we're likely to all be disappointed by whatever corrective action they take and apply to us all, just as the citizens of Washington DC should be disappointed by the results of their gun ban on fixing the crime problems there.

Rathergate is important, but the fix to Rathergate is equally important. The media and the people MUST hold CBS, Rather, Mapes, Lockhart, and Cleland to account for this debacle BECAUSE it IS important. Just don't leave it to the government to fix the problem for us.


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KEYWORDS: dncbs; rathergate

1 posted on 09/22/2004 4:02:28 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: No Longer Free State

Well, the government has the responsibility to prosecute the crimes committed in this fraud.


2 posted on 09/22/2004 4:04:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: thoughtomator
Well, the government has the responsibility to prosecute the crimes committed in this fraud.

Absolutely. That's why I didn't list the actual forger in the list of those WE must deal with.

3 posted on 09/22/2004 4:05:44 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: No Longer Free State

Bookmarked (a very good read).


4 posted on 09/22/2004 4:08:14 PM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; writer33; GreyFriar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...
Must read vanity *ping*!

It is an excellent post. OK OK, I am biased this is my beloved. Having said that, while he was in Iraq, he would send home updates and family and friends would get anxious 3 days out from his mailing.

He may be one of finest FA Officers, but, boy if he wanted to write or run for office I would be in his corner.

5 posted on 09/22/2004 4:10:06 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland.)
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To: No Longer Free State
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6 posted on 09/22/2004 4:14:18 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: LowOiL
Bookmarked (a very good read).

Thanks!

7 posted on 09/22/2004 5:08:29 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: Former Military Chick; All
OBVIOUSLY, whatever 'bias' you might have did NOT keep you from reaching the correct conclusion. It IS a great post! Kuddos to BOTH of you. - Exactly right.

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"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." --Thomas Jefferson

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8 posted on 09/22/2004 5:18:57 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM* - The Liberal solution to all of society's problems. (*...Other Peoples' Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Dear Seadog: Less decorations make a good poster.


9 posted on 09/22/2004 5:20:49 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Seadog Bytes
Ooops -- mistook you for a gewgawed up new poster. Checked out your posts and see that's not the case.

Please accept my apologies, sir.

10 posted on 09/22/2004 5:23:15 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw; Seadog

U an a bit confused, were you talking to Seadog about the VIACOM gif's. I did not see what Seadog did something wrong?


11 posted on 09/22/2004 5:31:20 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland.)
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To: Former Military Chick

No he didn't. I was indeed confused. And tired. My aplogies to you too.


12 posted on 09/22/2004 5:32:47 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw; All
My 03/23/04 = 'newbie' ...I am here to LEARN.
("Thank you, Sir. May I have another?")
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SeadogBytes
13 posted on 09/22/2004 5:42:50 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM* - The Liberal solution to all of society's problems. (*...Other Peoples' Money))
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To: No Longer Free State
The media and the people MUST hold CBS, Rather, Mapes, Lockhart, and Cleland to account for this debacle BECAUSE it IS important.

And the mythical and non-specific "media and the people" won't, capitalized words notwithstanding. Fraud and a naked attempt to stage a bloodless coup d'etat, which no one will name as such, is a matter for the government agencies to investigate and prosecute. Enough, please, enough of this everything is a constitutional issue business. I don't see it in other countries which somehow manage their affairs. CBS subversives must be prosecuted1 (And won't, take my word, so your and my posts are just useless rants, that's all.)

14 posted on 09/22/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Seadog Bytes

Maybe you know: What do they call that ceremony sailors do when they cross the artic circle?


15 posted on 09/22/2004 6:01:20 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Revolting cat!

See posts #2 and #3.


16 posted on 09/22/2004 6:05:27 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: bvw

Google is your friend.
See... http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq92-1.htm

...and...
"There was one final ceremony on board both icebreakers as they sailed south. As they had not celebrated the crossing of the Artic Circle on their way to battle the Germans, there were still a number of "ice worms" on board. These were the unfortunate individuals who had not been initiated into the realm of King Boreas, as all sailors who cross into his territory must be, and made into "Polar Bears," complete with a certificate. More than 300 Coast Guardsmen, who experienced battle in the icy north, put up with the tortures inflicted by the current members of the crew who were already Polar Bears, and they too joined the hallowed ranks of Arctic veterans."
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/Externsteine.html


17 posted on 09/22/2004 6:12:28 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM* - The Liberal solution to all of society's problems. (*...Other Peoples' Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Great! Came up at lunch today -- the autumnal equinox. King Boreas?


18 posted on 09/22/2004 6:19:26 PM PDT by bvw
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To: No Longer Free State

Damn Fine Vanity.


19 posted on 09/22/2004 6:24:13 PM PDT by HP8753 (Bypass Online News Sites Registration>>>> www.bugmenot.com)
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To: HP8753

Thanks.


20 posted on 09/22/2004 7:38:07 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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