Skip to comments.CBS to investigate producer Mapes
Posted on 09/22/2004 9:20:25 PM PDT by NewMediaFan
The fallout from CBS's doomed story about President Bush's National Guard service most endangers a woman few viewers know but who played a key role in two of the biggest television stories of the year.
Mary Mapes, a veteran producer at CBS News, reported most of the National Guard story, including obtaining the documents CBS now says it can't authenticate. She also passed on the phone number of her source, former Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, to the Kerry campaign.
CBS acknowledged Mapes passed on Burkett's number to Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart, and Lockhart called him. Spokeswoman Kelli Edwards said CBS wasn't aware that this was part of any deal, but it's one of the things that will be examined by an independent commission...
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CBS investigating its own is kind of like OJ searching for the 'real' killer.
They're trying to pin everything on Mapes.Sorry guys, but heads have to roll at the top of the food chain too...
beating up on a girl? ... that's a no-no, dan
It appears they have their goat -
Sort of like the Fox watching the hen house.
THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING
They'll start with her,but this is not going to end anytime soon.cBS will have to slice off a lot of branches,before this is done.
Daniel Milhous Rather will resign in disgrace, and I will laugh like a maniac.
I don't even think Kerry Inc can win now if they started dancin the macarena !
How about a US attorney investigating Mapes.
They will sacrifice a woman and let Dan slide. Does anyone but me see the irony here?
Dan Rather is the king Rat there, he won't be canned. But the unknown producer who just did what the culture at CBS (created by the Rathers and the Wallaces and the Safers) told her to do, well, there's your sacrifice. The old boys just have to do things like that to stay in power, that's how they keep their anchor jobs for 20 years while the Mapes and the Chungs and the rest all just sort of melt away....
Hello Freepers I'm a new guy first post be gentle
My theory of what happened is that Burkett (Army NG Ret) created the memos out of whole cloth. You remember the 86 year old secretary Knox stated there were bogus Army Terms (billets) in the memos that contributed to her assessment of the documents being faked. He in turn gave them to Max Cleland who gave them to Mapes and was Gunga Dans unimpeachable source. In his most partisan moments I dont see Dan Rather viewing Burkett as an unimpeachable source. Rathers trip to Texas was to convince Burkett to fall on his sword and take one for the team and hide the Mapes Cleland (Kerry) connection.
I prefer the Winchester .338 magnum. But that's just me.
Heads are gonna roll. Looks like Dan will be keeping his, though. Like that's any surprise.
And here I thought it was Dan Blather. Dan is that you?
Don't worry your head about that. It will follow I guarantee. But I am sick and stunned to keep reading on this board dismissive comments about Mapes as if she shouldn't be held to account.
Now you'll probably assure me that you want her held to account in addition to higher ups. Fine. But it starts here and she damned well better be investigated--and not by CBS, as if they don't know all there is to know already. After all, they're in the "news" business, they claim.
No question Mapes deserves to be fired. But that's just the start.
Have ya dinked around with the 8MM Rem Mag yet ?
"Oh, God, the mercantile mind!" said the philosopher, "Look, when two people think alike, one of them will make an excellent scapegoat."
- Old adage
Yeeehaw!! Goodbye there feminist propaganda queen! You're the fall girl for all of this.
I just wonder what she KNOWS that someone might be able to get from her if she gets emotional after being STOMPED as a scapegoat??
FReepers never cease to amaze me. Right over my head until you raised this point...
Grasshoppers:.. A word to the wise; when the camel puts his nose under the tent flap...
ALWAYS STRIKE IT HARD WITH PREJUDICE...
Because if you don't the FCC will continue SLEEPING.. and allow the camel to climb in bed with him..
Know what I mean...
Now, if she was working with Democratic operatives who set up the source and needed someone on the "inside" to get the forged docs through CBS scrutiny, that would be a bigger story.
Gees, CBS should of explained why they cancelled Garfield. I have no explanation to this day.
No. Should I?
I think that's what you just said. Sort of. Close enough.
Let the scapegoat games begin...
Ya I think there is a Mapes/Rather DNC connection and Cleland is the key.
I haven't. To be perfectly honest I'm not familiar with that round. I stick with conventional ammo.
Remember to write and mail a letter to your local CBS station. Let them know that if Rather and Mapes are not gone in three weeks, you will never again watch CBS National or LOCAL news. And you won't be looking at their new shows either. They tried to criminally steal the election and no way should Rather be allowed to slide by while the investigation team is looking. At a minimum he must be suspended - as in off the air.
There's the mythic journalistic code that sources will not be paid for their stories. Yet, here's Mapes putting Lockhart in touch with Burkett (allegedly) in order to obtain the forgeries. Payment in any language. Then, Mr Rather in his "sorry" announcement pointedly and oddly said that CBS had approached Burkett, not the other way around. Another quid-pro-quo in order to get Burkett to appear on camera? Another payment. I haven't seen this payment angle cited in any MSM reporting, not that one should expect it.
Burkett posted on a liberal website that he was "reassembling" Bush records that along with the Army terms makes me think he created the memos.
All this great, expert material on Free Republic in the past two weeks, and then some posters decide to drag in the hot chick stuff and banter about ammo. Sigh!
Yeah, it's like sending Madonna to investigate a whore house. That aside, this Mapes witch needs to go to jail and share a cell with Bertha Dieseldyke.
> He in turn gave them to Max Cleland who gave them to
> Mapes and was Gunga Dans unimpeachable source.
I still contend that the "unimpeachable" referred to
misreading the White House response when CBS sent them
copies of the memos. The failure to "impeach" the memos
made them "unimpeachable" - it was seen as confirming
them (and by implication, the source).
Whether the "no comment" was a deliberate WH rope-a-dope,
or the WH, unlike CBS, merely wanted to look into them
before making a formal statement, it was the final fatal
after-dinner mint for the skewed scandal gluttons at CBS.
It never ceases to amaze me how Americans will blast a man, any man, who even mildly looks as if he's guilty of something. But women get a free pass. What, are we women smart enough to lead, but too innocent to deceive? CRAP!
I felt that when Rather said unimpeachable source it was
in the context of where he got the memos.
I could be wrong but that was my understanding.
You could be "right on" in your assessment. Right now, everything is speculation.
> I felt that when Rather said unimpeachable source it
> was in the context of where he got the memos.
That's what most people assume. I'm not so sure.
> I could be wrong but that was my understanding.
I'm always willing to be mistaken, too.
But reportedly, there was a jubilant reaction at CBS
when the White House did their "no comment" thing.
Whether CBS based "unimpeach" on that or not, they
grossly misread it.
I have to wonder if the White House actually ran the
memos by Bush. If so, he would instantly have known
that they were forgeries (based on the content, not
the formatting), and might well have said - let's
hold our cards on this.
"CBS investigating its own is kind of like OJ searching for the 'real' killer"
Yeah. I'm really going to hold my breath on this one.
Whatever the reason, the White House passing on the docs and handing them back to Rather/CBS was one of the all-time moves. Here's the rope back, Dan!
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