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Are the CBS Forgeries and Free Republic both Moribund.
dickmc, et. al.

Posted on 09/23/2004 1:37:28 PM PDT by dickmc

Now that I've got your attention……

The CBS Memo Forgery Project and it's report are done. It is a darn fine, impressive Report if I may say so. It should be: writing and investigating has taken hundreds of hours of Freeper time. Last night we posted a request for electronic "signers" and help with a "route" to get it to the CBS Investigative Commission where it may well do some good!

The original post is below in the comments.

The result………nothing.

Can we not write catchy headlines? Was last night slow? Was it the wrong time of day. Was the article too long? Do we not care?

What?

ITEM 1. We do not want to shove it under the CBS door "to whom it may concern".
…Is there no Freeper who has a "route" to Thornburgh and/or Boccardi and/or CBS News based on a relationship? (contact Pharlap ).
…I can not believe there is no one in this cast of thousands?

ITEM 2. Is there no one here who will stand with me in "electronically signing" the report?

If you are willing to sign: Thank you very much and please say so in this thread. Also, please note "2." in the comments below.

If you are unwilling to sign, why??????
…Do we not care?
…Is it somebody else's job (I don't see any 'George' around.)
…Has "buckheading" by those using slime so affected our actions?

…Is there no Freeper even willing to spend four person hours collecting the signatures? (…assuming there are any to collect.)

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We look forward to your remarks and comments.


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As you know, CBS has just appointed two people to the Commission that is to look into the documents matter. They are former Atty Gen Dick Thornburgh and former AP executive Lou Boccardi.

Concurrently, most of you know that the Free Republic CBS Memo Forgery Project has just completed a major effort running some 20 pages. This includes:
* Conclusions and Recommendations (shown below in blue and red)
* Main CBS Memo Forgery Report (pages 1 to 10)
* Executive Summary (pages 18 to 20)
* Technical Appendix MSWord Overlay on a forged CBS Memo (pages 14 to 16)

We are now thinking that the time is close to sending it to Thornburgh and/or Broccardi. Alternately (or concurrently), we may also want to send it to the CBS News Division with request that they forward it to the newly established Commission in the interest of a full and fair review of this matter. We could also ask them for a response.

We would tell CBS, and Thornburgh and Boccardi in the cover letter that the Project Report is (1) a definitive, scholarly work primarily intended to establish that the documents in question are forgeries, and (2) recommends certain actions that the Project authors believe must be taken to restore CREDIBILITY to CBS and its news division. And, that we believe that the Commission is a first and right step in this process.

Before I raise some questions that we now need relatively prompt Freeper attentions and effort, the key section is the Conclusion and Recommendation shown below:

IT IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT THAT:
CBS DID NOT EXERCISE REASONABLE PRUDENCE IN PUBLICATION OF THE FORGED MEMOS ON 60MINUTES

In addition to the many items detailed in the Project Report, the following were immediate red flags:

1. The superscript "th" in the 04 May and in the 18 August Memos would have been a clear forgery indicator to anyone familiar with a manual typewriter, the only equipment available in 1972.

2. The layout of the documents including proportional spacing should have caused any staff member to try to replicate the memos in Microsoft Word default settings. A simple overlay held up to the window would have revealed the forgery.

3. The use of the "0" in the 04 May and in the 01 August Memo dates and the lack of a distribution list for the these purported orders would have led anyone with past military experience, even at the private level, to know that the documents were not valid.

4. The use of a validator with no admitted typographic expertise. Moreover, that validator was instructed to validate only one Memo signature from a photocopy, despite that validator's own previously published statements that a photocopy could not be used to determine signature veracity.

IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PROJECT THAT CBS AND 60MINUTES:

a. Issue a clear and unambiguous public apology to the American Public and to President Bush:
- on CBS News and on 60Minutes
- on the CBS web site

b. Terminate or accept the resignation(s) of those CBS person(s) asserting the authenticity of Documents on CBS News and on 60 Minutes.

c. Post on the CBS web site the source(s) of the forged memos and a chronology of the events relating to this matter specifically including contacts in electronic, telephonic, or written form with any 527, DNC, or Kerry Campaign employees, representatives, or agents. Also, immediately take steps to preserve all such notes and records.

d. Produce within 14 days a follow-up CBS 60Minutes presentation detailing the facts and circumstances relating to the acquisition and use on 60Minutes, CBS News, and the CBS web site of the forged documents.

e. As the forging and use of forged military documents, especially during a national election, is a serious and possibly criminal issue: formally notify the U.S. Justice Department, the Federal Election Commission, and the Federal Communications Commission of the details concerning the acquisition and use of the Documents and fully cooperate with any subsequent investigation(s) and, if appropriate, any prosecution(s).

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All of the report is downloadable as a MSWord document here or as a pdf .

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Now for the immediate issues and action items:

1. WE NEED A ROUTE TO DICK THORNBURGH AND/OR FORMER AP EXECUTIVE LOU BOCCARDI AND/OR THROUGH THE CBS NEWS DIVISION: We do not want to send 20 or 30 copies of this report "to whom it may concern". Also, while the Investigative Group may have an address someday, they will likely be deluged with hundreds of pounds, it not tons, of mail. Likely anything we send by that route will not get much, if any, attention. We need a better route that is based on some kind of professional or personal relationship. This might be with Thornburgh or Boccardi. Alternately, it might be through one of the influential local station CBS presidents.

If you have a route or a suggested route, please Freepmail to Pharlap . You need not give your real name or E-Mail. Simply describe the suggested route and the relationship which will make it work. Pharlap will then get back to you if it appears a prime choice. At that point you will need to get in touch by separate E-Mail and/or telephone. You should probably not rule out having to make some personal contact to the "route" to assure the delivery works.

2. WE NEED TO GET THE REPORT SIGNED BY PARTICIPATING FREE REPUBLIC MEMBERS: If we send it over signed the "FR CBS Memo Forgery Project", it is not going to be very effective if no one stands behind the work. Obviously, screen names including "ihatedan" and the like are not going to work. Nor do we have the option of cutting an pasting dozens of signature jpg's or circulating a signature page from person to person.

After some thought, one option is to have a known and trusted FR member collect Freepmailed signature names and paste them into a MSWord table, so that we can alphabetize them and use Kauffman type signatures to paste into the FR CBS Memo Forgery Document's signature page. The results would then be something like:

To do this we needed a Freeper Volunteer to read the Freepmails and put the "signatures" into a MSWord table. As a "signer" you would need to supply: Mr. or Ms., First Name, Last Name, a few word description as shown. Your Freepmail would be deleted so that you would continue to be anonymous to this group. Thus, we need a Freeper Volunteer who has been around here long enough to be trusted. The volunteer would need to make up the name list so that it can be appended to the document. We will, however, not do this and send it to CBS unless we are assured of at least 30 signers. I will, so that means at least 29 others. Hopefully, well would have at least a hundred. Although, we do not intend to publish the signed document, you should assume that if it goes to CBS that the signature page may well appear somewhere.

3. WE NEED AN ADDRESS. Jim, may I assume that we can use Free Republic's mailing address as the address in the cover letter to CBS????????

Needless to say, we would appreciate inputs and volunteers regarding the above.

1 posted on 09/23/2004 1:37:29 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc

Most people don't read vanities.


2 posted on 09/23/2004 1:40:10 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: dickmc
I don't respond to solicitations, unless they use every color in the Internet rainbow.

Yours fell a bit short, spectrumwise.

3 posted on 09/23/2004 1:41:49 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: jbeachgrl5

Thanks. I was beginning to fell this was a wasted effort.


5 posted on 09/23/2004 1:44:56 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc
I read the post last night, but I didn't see where you asked for freepers to volunteer to sign it. I read the post as a call for a freeper to volunteer to gather the signatures.

I will sign it.

I'm poor at MS Word and my typing is 'hunt and peck', so I wouldn't be a good one to create the doc with the sigs on it.
6 posted on 09/23/2004 1:46:01 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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To: jbeachgrl5

Sorry. I was beginning to "feel" this was a wasted effort. I do know how to spell better!


7 posted on 09/23/2004 1:46:57 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc

Hey, I'll sign. I had no idea you needed signatures.

I had no idea you were doing this, actually. Some many threads lately, and things moving so damned fast...


8 posted on 09/23/2004 1:48:27 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Mike Fieschko

Thanks. Don't worry about the "signature" collection, I'm reasonably sure we'll find some one.


9 posted on 09/23/2004 1:48:55 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc; nutmeg; tgslTakoma; MeekOneGOP; The Mayor

Pinging some people with ping lists...


11 posted on 09/23/2004 1:51:41 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: dickmc

Since I made a few miniscule additions or edits, I will be proud to sign it.

although it is probably too late, I think we should have a go at proving the collusion between CBS and the Dems. There are too many clues--and this is the real crux of the matter.

The only reason the forgery is important is that it was designed to sway the election by letting BIG MEDIA like CBS carry the water for the Kerry Campaign.

The Kerry Campaign announced they were going to be using the National Guard story early in the year. For a good timeline, look at the article WHO Knew? on American Thinker.com. A link to them is on this site from the iconoclast.

In full disclosure, I must proudly say that I contributed to the article on that website as it now stands


12 posted on 09/23/2004 1:53:43 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: The Old Hoosier

ping to read


13 posted on 09/23/2004 1:53:59 PM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment (CBS Boycott day 014)
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To: hellinahandcart

Thanks. I really appreciate that as I don't have any idea how to do the ping lists ...and... we really need at least 30 "signatures" if we are to go.


14 posted on 09/23/2004 1:54:35 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc
WE NEED AN ADDRESS. Jim, may I assume that we can use Free Republic's mailing address as the address in the cover letter to CBS????????

Why didn't you ask JR BEFORE putting it in a post?

And no, I'm not putting my name and occupation on any list for you to send to CBS, I prefer other anti MSM activities.

No offense to you, but I don't like this.

15 posted on 09/23/2004 1:55:39 PM PDT by Judith Anne (First we were digital brownshirts then we were pajamahadeen, now we're the piranha of the internet)
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To: dickmc; The Old Hoosier; Hank Rearden
This post is really OFFENSIVE! If Freepers don't do what you want, it is your fault, not the fault of the Freepers.
16 posted on 09/23/2004 1:57:03 PM PDT by SubMareener
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To: dickmc

" I do know how to spell better!"
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I sure hope so, 'cuz if you don't I'd hate to be the proof reader for your 20 pages. ;-0)

I glanced through it and saved it for a closer perusal tonight. It looks as if y'all did a very complete job.

You may add my signature.


17 posted on 09/23/2004 1:57:48 PM PDT by LakeLady (In my jammies here I sit; sortin' out the truth from all the ---- in my jammies here I sit.........)
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To: dickmc
The request was too arcane. It looked like you needed a volunteer to collect them before anyone needed to sign, and since I wasn't going to be that volunteer (lots of grading and a grant proposal due at the moment), I didn't respond.

BTW: point 11 which is largely based on my posts is weakened by the suggestion that the unsuperscripted 111th's in the letterhead weren't done in the simplest way: using lower case L's (Word doesn't autosuperscript after lower case L's). It's a much simpler explanation for the two tell-tale superscripts and the spaces to assume the forger made only two errors with regard to suppressing superscripts: not spacing after the 187 and using ones (1) out of habit rather than using lower case L's in the 111th which had a superscript, rather than some roundabout route with backspacing or inserting th's late. (That explanation is almost as convoluted as the way one would get superscripts with an IBM Composer.) Certainly one can get unsupercripted ordinals in Word with the defaults on by inserting the suffix after the fact, or backspacing, but we want Occam's Razor to cut in our favor on all points.

18 posted on 09/23/2004 1:58:45 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: dickmc
I thought Dan Rather and other liberals were the only ones to talk down to Freepers?

I'm online everyday and this is the first I've heard of the official Free Republic CBS Memo Forgery Project
I've not gotten any freepmail,
I've not seen your report?
How do you expect me to put my name to something I haven't even seen?
Who is participating in said project? ...the "we" you speak of?

Is the official "Free Republic CBS Memo Forgery Project" endorsed by Jim Robinson?

19 posted on 09/23/2004 2:00:27 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SubMareener

Nice availament of spectrum. I support your post.


20 posted on 09/23/2004 2:01:20 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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