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The Fall
National Review Online ^ | September 24, 2004 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/24/2004 6:21:27 AM PDT by sola_fide

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To: sola_fide; Tolik
Thanks for the VDH post and ping!

I am glad to have known before Rathergate.

Imagine the shock of finding out your "friends" on TV and in "hometown" papers have been deceiving you - after election 2000, 911, and after over 18 months of daily spinning re. Iraq?

I felt so guilty about Vietnam - for having betrayed our veterans by believing Walter Cronkite and Hollywood lies.

We didn't have access to the primary sources then.

We may need a national period of mourning, forgiveness, to get beyond this latest national shame - the latest betrayal of all we hold dear by our own mighty free press, and those who bought the slickly packaged lies.

...millions of Americans learned long ago that there are probably more liberals on Fox than conservatives on PBS, NPR, CBS, ABC, and NBC combined — and the former are honest about politics in a way the latter are not.

21 posted on 09/24/2004 9:01:35 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The proper response to difficulty is not to retreat -- it is to prevail."- Pres. Bush, CinC, 9/21)
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To: sola_fide

Beautiful. Hanson at his best.


22 posted on 09/24/2004 10:22:55 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: theFIRMbss

No, Cromwell was not a good guy. But it was a great line.


23 posted on 09/24/2004 10:23:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sola_fide

BTTT.

VDH is always good, but this one is especially good.


24 posted on 09/24/2004 11:00:18 AM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: sola_fide
But the regime is crumbling on campuses as well.

I pray that it is so.

25 posted on 09/24/2004 1:07:18 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: sola_fide

I absolutely love this guys mind. I can't imagine the pleasure I'd have being a student in his class.


26 posted on 09/24/2004 1:09:31 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: Cicero
No, Cromwell was not a good guy. But it was a great line.

Cromwell was not a good guy but he did one great thing. He reversed the policy of forbidding Jews to live in England. This act led to England, and ultimately America, becoming a sanctuary for Jews who otherwise might have perished, first in the pogroms and later in the Holocaust. An underappreciated act of extraordinary importance.

27 posted on 09/24/2004 1:13:03 PM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: Tolik; JohnHuang2; Luis Gonzalez; writer33

WOW!!! This rocks!


28 posted on 09/24/2004 1:16:11 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Republic
This nugget is especially tasty:

The U.N. also seems to be going the way of CBS. Only a little over a quarter of our citizenry feels that the organization reflects American values. Kofi Annan was blind to the greatest financial scandal of our time, one that contributed to the deaths of thousands in Iraq and enriched cronies, including perhaps his own son. He survives only because a biased media has judged that his progressivism warrants shielding him from the type of scrutiny afforded Halliburton.

Under Mr. Annan, the U.N. won't say a word about Tibet or do anything about the thousands butchered in Africa — how can it when murdering states such as Cuba, Algeria, and Iran are on its committees overseeing human rights? Kofi Annan's U.N. has lost its ideals, become counterfeit, and thus is now mostly irrelevant.

29 posted on 09/24/2004 1:17:36 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: BartMan1
You are so right-that is writing of devastating quality and insight.

Especially the first line of that paragraph-

But in the process there also began a professional devolution, as questionable legal and ethical methods were excused in the name of the greater good.

Absolutely dead on. And scary. And we have been LIVING with this ideology from our MSM for a LONG TIME.

Thank GOD for the internet, talk radio and Fox News and writers like the author of this article and their publishers, who so clearly nail the deception.

30 posted on 09/24/2004 1:21:59 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: bikepacker67

It almost hurts to see these truths in print.


31 posted on 09/24/2004 1:22:58 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Republic
I know what you mean...

It makes you want to cry out:
"WHAT TOOK SO DAMN LONG?"

32 posted on 09/24/2004 1:25:37 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: sola_fide
Bookmarked. This is an indictment of a profoundly dishonest generation of political enthusiasts, and one of the finest pieces I have seen on the topic. The better part of the Democratic party - the Millers, the Hansons - sits back appalled at the wreckage these people have visited on one of the pillars of our republic.

The purging will have to come from within - Republicans can't do it. It is high time for the party of Scoop Jackson, Hubert Humphrey, and Harry Truman to find its soul again after a nightmare tramp through the swamp of postmodern nihilism, courtesy of the folks - the Clintons, the Kerrys - who imagined they were freeing the world when they spit on the troops lo those many years ago. It will not be easy. They are at the high arc of their political careers and will not go quietly.

Hillary in particular intends to resurrect their effort four years hence. That, I suspect, will represent the final battle for the soul of a generation. The battle-lines are being drawn in this election, the veterans have awakened and are discovering that at last they have a voice, and the forces that shouted them down thirty years ago are surprised and shaken, but not defeated. This is going to be a long struggle.

33 posted on 09/24/2004 1:48:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: sola_fide
The mama pajama rolled out of bed
She ran to the PC station
When the papa Freeped out, he began to shout
And he started the investigation
Forging’s against the law, Rather’s against the law
What the mama saw, it was against the law
Now mama looks down and spits on the ground
Every time Rather’s name gets mentioned
The papa said, "Oy, if I get that boy
I'm gonna stick him in the house of detention"
Well, I'm on my way
I don't know where I'm going
I'm on my way
I'm taking my time but I don't know where
Goodbye to Danny, the King of Media
See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard
See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard

In a couple of days they come and take me away
But the press let the story leak
Now when the FR Poster came to get me released
We was all on the cover of Newsweek
And I'm on my way
I don't know where I'm going
But I'm on my way
I'm taking my time but I don't know where
Goodbye to Danny, the King of Media
See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard
See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard
See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard.

34 posted on 09/24/2004 2:00:34 PM PDT by O Neill (Swift Vote Republicans For Bush)
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To: O Neill

Simon and Garfunkel bump ;-)


35 posted on 09/24/2004 4:07:56 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: Billthedrill
courtesy of the folks - the Clintons, the Kerrys

Don't forget the goober farmer.

36 posted on 09/24/2004 4:09:45 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: sola_fide
Hanson, Steyn, Coulter... name a writer on the left that can hold a candle to any them. Another great commentary from Hanson. He puts a sharp stick right in CBS's lying "eye".
37 posted on 09/24/2004 4:25:54 PM PDT by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: sola_fide; William Wallace
"...worse than all that was Rather's ten-day denial of reality, culminating in the surreal half-admission that the phony documents could not be verified as accurate. That's the equivalent of saying that a corpse cannot be proven to be alive."

Great stuff!

38 posted on 09/24/2004 4:50:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Republic

Thanks for the heads up!


39 posted on 09/24/2004 5:34:37 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: sola_fide
The Fall: A bankrupt generation is fading away.

That was the full title of the article. I've been thinking this but it takes guts to put it in print.
40 posted on 09/24/2004 5:39:29 PM PDT by etradervic (If Kerry is the answer, what was the question?)
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