Posted on 09/25/2004 9:08:34 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on Saturday called the war in Iraq a "grotesque mistake" that has not made the United States safer. Giving her party's weekly radio address, the California congresswoman said President Bush's decision to invade Iraq has siphoned resources and attention away from the broader war on terror and the hunt for Osama bin Laden. "We would be much safer today if President Bush had kept his focus on al-Qaida, rather than diverting crucial resources from the war on terror in Afghanistan to a war of choice in Iraq," she said, echoing recent comments by Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. "This war has been a grotesque mistake that has diminished our reputation in the world and has not made America safer," she said. On the same note, Kerry said Friday that Bush's policies have "let Osama bin Laden slip away." Bush calls Iraq the front line in the war on terror and in his re-election campaign has cast himself as the more steady leader who would keep the country safer. Elsewhere in her broadcast, Pelosi criticized congressional Republicans who have shown support for a new national sales tax, which she said would hurt the middle class. "Wealthy corporate interests would get a windfall, and the middle class would get the bill," she said. Bush has said that in a second term he would work to simplify the federal income tax, and he and other Republicans insist it is Kerry who would increase Americans' taxes. House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., called for a national sales tax or consumption-based tax in a recent book. But Bush's suggestion this summer that a national sales tax is worth serious consideration drew a backlash from Democrats and many Republicans, and the idea was quickly discarded.
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LOL!
And Pelosi knows "grotesque".
Lazamataz Calls Nancy Pelosi 'Grotesque Mistake'
Oh no.. now she's thinking she's the Queen, uttering from her high throne. She's another Humpty Dumpty.
MISTAKE --- Don't look in the mirror when talking.
Pelosi Galore spewing the vile hatred of GW that ensures her re election by the Gay maggot capitol, San Francisco.
Don't be surprised if Bush's numbers take a hit in the next week, until after the debates.
So she named her face "Iraq War"?
The democrat party has adopted the "Spanish Strategy" (my term), synchronizing and linking all their remaining efforts to coordinate with a pre-election al Queda terror attack on the US. They hopes to replicate the come-from-behind victory of the Spanish leftists, after the pre-election mass bombings of rush hour Madrid commuter trains by the IslamoFascists.
Kerry has (as all Presidential Candidates have) top secret homeland security inside information which details the obvious risks about an al Queda attack in the days before the general election on November 2, 2004.
He has focused all of his campaign negative energies on Iraq, bad mouthing our presence there and the democratic new government. This is self-serving and evil, but it does represent a rational political position on Kerry's part, positioning himself as the antiwar candidate. This might assure victory to an otherwise failing campaign, if public sentiment turns against the war efforts after a late October terrorist attack.
Why do Democrats always adopt the rhetoric of the enemy?
I can't seem to understand this phenomenon. Can someone help me out?
"Minority Leader" says it all, especially with a Republican president!
Remeber when 'Snake Oil' Carville put that trash can over his head on CNN after the last election? We need to see if we can get Pelosi to throw one over her 'grostesque mistake' after this next one.
Yeah sure Peloser, tell that to all the beaten, oppressed, burqua clad women and children. Seriously, is there some factory churning out these Teresa Pelosi android clones?
"Why do Democrats always adopt the rhetoric of the enemy?"
Because they are the enemy. How else can it be explained?
Talk about calling the kettle black
Post 14: I just hurled. And this is a defocused GOOD picture of this vicious, evil hag.
God, she's hot....
"Congresscritter, I know grotesque.... and your are grotesque", to paraphrase another Dim bulb.
Does she look like a deer in the headlights or what?
This war has served to make us safer at home and has helped us to identify who our true friends are in the world. Pelosi and the Dems like that group hug sh*t while the other guy is reaching around and picking their pockets.
someone once posted a side-by-side switched at birth picture of pelosi and the whacko guy from the 'heaven's gate' cult
hilarious
This thread hereby receives 'The Most Obvious Reply Based on a Headline' Award.
The "rat party" IS the enemy. This is truly malignant force, the sworn nemeisis of our wonderful nation.
The democrat party must be utterly destroyed, along with al Queda.
"Why do Democrats always adopt the rhetoric of the enemy?"
Oedipus Complex
That's because she can't close her eyes.
How do you post side by side photos?
"Gross mistake"......tell it to your plastic surgeon, Nance!
The first time I lifted up your face...I turned to my nurse...and I asked her, "Just what have I done?"
Omigosh...can you tell me...what I have become?
Frankenstein...Dr. Frankenstein
The first time I lifted up your face...oh, I had a hunch...I'd lose my lunch...get the mop and broom
I blew chunks...man, they were big chunks...all across the room
Frankenstein...Dr. Frankenstein
The first time I lifted up your face...if I did it wrong...there'd be a song...just for history
I was sure...all the FReepers...would make fun of me
Frankenstein...Dr. Frankenstein
The first time I lifted up your old face...your face...your face...your face...your face...your face...your face...your face...your face...your face...your face....your face...your face...your face
Blew it.... blew it...I blew it...I blew it...blew it...blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it...I blew it
The same could more accurately be said of Nancy Pelosi.
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They facts are that they have been meeting with the terrorists and that is why they, at all costs, must try to keep any one, 9/11 Commission, the left wing media, everyone from looking too closely at Willie's connections/meetings with Saddam's people and al-Qaeda in the mid and late 90s.
Willie believed he could use France and the UN to play tag with Saddam for years while Saddam gave Willie's friends lots of oil money. That's why Willie never killed/captured Osama, Saddam paid Willie not to. That is why the Pelosi's of the sewer maintain that THERE NEVER WAS A CONNECTION, to protect Willie and the dems!
This self appointed Empress needs some serious defenestration. (defenestration = being tossed out the window)
If she and John Kerry were in charge they could "open a Carafe of Whoop-a##" on those terrorists! As far as Grotesque goes shes starting to look more like Michael Jackson than well...Michael Jackson!
TaxMistress .
Old What's Her Name .
Nancy PeLoser .
Nancy Pelosi-Marx .
Hillary Lite. .
Nancy Soprano ..
That Crazy Frisco Broad ..
JALS--Just Another Liberal Skank ..
Pelosi Galore.....
The Bay City Baby Killer ..
The Permanent House Minority Party Leader
WHO ? .
Harpie Marxist .
The Whine-ority Leader .
Screecher of the House .
Nancy "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane" Pelosi .
Ms. RAT .
Norma Desmond ("I'M READY FOR MY CLOSE UP, MR. DeMILLE!") .
BoTox-osi .
Nancy von Trotsky .
Countess Demo-cratula .
The Belladonna of Berkeley .
Mommy Dearest .
Ivana Taxalot .
Nancy Wellstoneski .
Frau Bleucher .
Facelift Barbie .
Nancy, just shut up!
I watched her yesterday during PM Allawi's speech. It looked like she was going to pee her pants.
No, the last person to use the words "grotesque mistake" was her father on the day she was born.
Pray for W and Our Troops
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on Saturday called the war in Iraq a "grotesque mistake"
Toronto Globe and Mail
Saddam's chambers of horrors
By MARGARET WENTE
Saturday, November 23, 2002
Abu Ghraib, 30 kilometres west of Baghdad, is Iraq's biggest prison. Until recently, it held perhaps 50,000 people, perhaps more. No one knows for sure. No one knows how many people were taken there through the years and never came out.
For a generation, Abu Ghraib was the centrepiece of Saddam Hussein's reign of torture and death. Yahya al-Jaiyashy is one of the survivors.
Mr. Jaiyashy is an animated, bearded man of 49 whose words can scarcely keep up with the torrent of his memories. Today he lives in Toronto with his second wife, Sahar. This week, he sat down with me to relate his story. With him were his wife, a lovely Iraqi woman in her mid-30s, and a friend, Haithem al-Hassan, who helped me with Mr. Jaiyashy's mixture of Arabic and rapid English.
"Nineteen seventy-seven was the first time I went to jail," he says. "I was not tortured that much."
He was in his mid-20s then, from an intellectual family that lived in a town south of Baghdad. He had been a student of Islamic history, language and religion in the holy city of Najaf, but was forced to quit his studies after he refused to join the ruling Ba'ath party. His ambition was to write books that would show how Islam could open itself up to modernism.
In Saddam's Iraq, this was a dangerous occupation, especially for a Shiite. Shia Muslims are the majority in Iraq, but Saddam and his inner circle are Sunni. Many Shiites were under suspicion as enemies of the state.
"My father was scared for me," says Mr. Jaiyashy. " 'You know how dangerous this regime is,' he told me. 'You know how many people they kill.' "
Mr. Jaiyashy continued his studies on his own. But, eventually, he was picked up, along with a dozen acquaintances who had been involved in political activity against the regime. They were sent to Abu Ghraib. The others did not get off as lightly as he did. One was killed by immersion into a vat of acid. Ten others, he recalls, were put into a room and torn apart by wild dogs. Several prominent religious leaders were also executed. One was a university dean, someone Mr. Jaiyashy remembers as "a great man." They drove a nail through his skull.
For three decades, the most vicious war Saddam has waged has been the one against his own people. Iraq's most devastating weapon of mass destruction is Saddam himself. And the most powerful case for regime change is their suffering.
Sometimes, it is almost impossible to believe the accounts of people who survived Saddam's chamber of horrors. They seem like twisted nightmares, or perhaps crude propaganda. But there are too many survivors who have escaped Iraq, too many credible witnesses. And Mr. Jaiyashy's story, horrible as it is, is not unusual.
Saddam personally enjoyed inflicting torture in the early years of his career, and he has modelled his police state after that of his hero, Stalin. According to Kenneth Pollack, a leading U.S. expert on Iraq, the regime employs as many as half a million people in its various intelligence, security and police organizations. Hundreds of thousands of others serve as informants. Neighbour is encouraged to inform on neighbour, children on their parents. Saddam has made Iraq into a self-policing totalitarian state, where everyone is afraid of everybody else.
"Being in Iraq is like creeping around inside someone else's migraine," says veteran BBC correspondent John Sweeney. "The fear is so omnipresent, you could almost eat it."
To Stalin's methods of arbitrary arrests and forced confessions, Saddam has added an element of sadism: the torture of children to extract information from their parents.
In northern Iraq -- the only place in the country where people can speak relatively freely -- Mr. Sweeney interviewed several people who had direct experience of child torture. He also met one of the victims -- a four-year-old girl, the daughter of a man who had worked for Saddam's psychopathic son Uday. When the man fell under suspicion, he fled to the Kurdish safe haven in the north. The police came for his wife and tortured her to reveal his whereabouts; when she didn't break, they took his daughter and crushed her feet. She was 2 then. Today, she wears metal braces on her legs, and can only hobble.
"This is a regime that will gouge out the eyes of children to force confessions from their parents and grandparents," writes Mr. Pollack in his new book, The Threatening Storm. "This is a regime that will hold a nursing baby at arm's length from its mother and allow the child to starve to death to force the mother to confess. This is a regime that will burn a person's limbs off to force him to confess or comply. This is a regime that will slowly lower its victims into huge vats of acid. . . .
"This is a regime that practises systematic rape against the female victims. This is a regime that will drag in a man's wife, daughter or other female relative and repeatedly rape her in front of him." And if he has fled the country, it will send him the video.
After nearly two years in prison, Mr. Jaiyashy was released and sent to do military service in the north. Then the security police decided to round up the followers of one of the executed clerics. In 1980, Mr. Jaiyashy was arrested again, along with 20 friends, and taken to a military prison. He was interrogated about criticisms he was supposed to have made of the regime, and urged to sign a confession. During one session, his wrists were tied to a ceiling fan. Then they turned on the fan. Then they added weights onto his body and did it again. Then somebody climbed on him to add more weight. "It was 20 minutes, but it seemed like 20 years," he recalls.
He was beaten with a water hose filled with stones. When he passed out, he was shocked back into consciousness with an electric cable. They hung him by his legs, pulled out a fingernail with pliers, and drove an electric drill through his foot.
Mr. Jaiyashy took off his right shoe and sock to show me his foot. It is grotesquely mutilated, with a huge swelling over the arch. There is an Amnesty International report on human-rights abuses in Iraq with a photo of a mutilated foot that looks identical to his. The baby finger on his left hand is also mutilated.
He didn't sign the confession. He knew that, if he did, they would eventually kill him.
They put him in solitary confinement, in a cell measuring two metres by two and a half, without windows or light. Every few weeks, they would bring him the confession again, but he refused to sign. He stayed there for a year.
In 1981, he was sent to trial, where he persuaded a sympathetic judge not to impose the death sentence. He got 10 years instead, and was sent back to Abu Ghraib. "They put me in a cell with 50 people. It was three and a half by three and a half metres. Some stood, some sat. They took turns."
There was a small window in the cell, with a view of a tree. It was the only living thing the prisoners could see. The tree was cut down. There were informants in the cells and, every morning, guards would come and take someone and beat him till he died. "This is your breakfast!" they would say.
Mr. Jaiyashy spent the next six years in that cell. His parents were told he was dead.
Abu Ghraib contained many intellectuals and professional people. Among them was the scientist Hussein Shahristani, a University of Toronto alumnus who became a leading nuclear scientist in Iraq. He was imprisoned after he refused to work on Saddam's nuclear program. He spent 10 years in Abu Ghraib, most of them in solitary confinement, until he escaped in 1991.
Saddam has reduced his people to abject poverty. He wiped out families, villages, cities and cultures, and drove four million people into exile. He killed between 100,000 and 200,000 Kurds. He killed as many as 300,000 Shiites in the uprising after the Persian Gulf war. He killed or displaced 200,000 of the 250,000 marsh Arabs who had created a unique, centuries-old culture in the south. He drained the marshes, an environmental treasure, and turned them into a desert.
In a recent Frontline documentary, a woman who fled Iraq recounted how she and others had been forced to witness the public beheadings of 15 women who had been rounded up for prostitution and other crimes against the state. One of the women was a doctor who had been misreported as speaking against the regime. "They put her head in a trash can," she said.
In 1987, Mr. Jaiyashy and a thousand other inmates were transferred to an outdoor prison camp. There, they were allowed a visit with their relatives, so long as they said nothing of their lives in prison. Mr. Jaiyashy's parents came, hoping he might still be alive. He remembers the day all the families came. "There was so much crying. We called it the crying day."
In 1989, he was finally released from prison. Then came the gulf war and, after that, the uprising, which he joined. It was quickly crushed. He fled with 150,000 refugees toward the Saudi border. But the Saudis didn't want them. "They are Wahhabis," he says. "They consider the Shia as infidels." The United Nations set up a refugee camp, where Mr. Jaiyashy spent the next six years. He began to paint and write again.
Finally, he was accepted as an immigrant to Canada. He arrived in Toronto in 1996, and is now a Canadian citizen.
Mr. Jaiyashy has a deep sense of gratitude toward his adoptive country. Canada, he says, has given him back his freedom and his dignity. He paints prolifically, and has taken courses at the art college, and is the author of three plays about the Saddam regime. He makes his living stocking shelves in a fabric store. "I'm a porter," he says. "No problem. I'm happy."
But Saddam's spies are everywhere. After one of his plays was produced here, his father was imprisoned. His first wife and three children are still in Iraq. He hasn't seen them since his youngest, now 12, was a baby. He talks with them on the phone from time to time, but it is very dangerous. One of his brothers is in Jordan, another still in Iraq.
Sahar, his second wife, is soft-spoken. She covers her head and dresses modestly, without makeup. Her face is unlined. She arrived in Canada with her two daughters the same year as Mr. Jaiyashy; they were introduced by friends.
She, too, has a story. I learned only the smallest part of it. "I was a widow," she told me. "My husband was a doctor in Iraq. He wanted to continue his education and have a specialty. But they didn't allow him. He deserted the military service to continue his education on his own. They beat him till he died."
Today, her daughters are in high school and she teaches at a daycare centre. Her new husband pushed her to study hard here. "ESL, ESL," she says affectionately.
Like many Iraqis, they are conflicted about the prospect of war. They want Saddam gone. But they do not want more harm inflicted on their country. "I want Saddam gone -- only him," says Mr. Jaiyashy.
A few weeks ago, Saddam threw open the doors of Abu Ghraib and freed the prisoners there. Many families rejoiced, and many others, who did not find their loved ones, mounted a brief, unheard-of protest against the regime. The prison is a ghost camp now. Nothing is left but piles of human excrement that cake the razor wire.
Saddam's Iraq is a rebuke to anyone who may doubt that absolute evil dwells among us. No one has put it better than Mr. Sweeney, the BBC reporter. "When I hear the word Iraq, I hear a tortured child screaming."
Nancy, you have the right to remain silent...please use it!
Would someone please SHUT THIS WOMAN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mostly we get angry and destroy the enemy.
Pelosi Galore?!?! ROFL!!!
LOL. You do have a way with the words. Sweet. And accurate.
They are the enemy?
I was just checking to see if I was the only one who thought they were...
Yeah. The end without the horns.
They hopes to replicate the come-from-behind victory of the Spanish leftists, after the pre-election mass bombings of rush hour Madrid commuter trains by the IslamoFascists.
Were they behind? I seem to recall they were leading in the polls. Of course (as always) I could be wrong.
Thanks!
It drives her loyal lunatic libs fans right off the lemming cliff when I refer to her as Pelosi Galore.
I think she is drinking deeply of the cool aid.
In Carville and Pelosi's cases, the rot within their souls is mirrored in their terrifying appearances.
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