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Provisional ballots could pose Election Day problems in Ohio (Hanging chads? Here we go again...)
Ohio News Network ^ | 9/25/04

Posted on 09/25/2004 4:19:20 PM PDT by Libloather

Provisional ballots could pose Election Day problems

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Provisional ballots could be the hanging chads of the 2004 presidential election, say critics of Ohio's guidelines for handling those votes.

Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell recently issued a directive to county election officials saying they are allowed to count provisional ballots only from voters who go to the correct polling location for their home address.

Blackwell has ordered that if residents go to the wrong precinct, poll workers must find their correct precinct and tell them where to go, Blackwell's spokesman Carlo LoParo said. They also may cast provisional ballots at their county election board.

Provisional voting allows properly registered voters to cast ballots even when their names don't appear on registration rolls because they moved or they were left off.

"It has a potential of being a very big issue, and how we train and how we prepare for it will dictate how we handle the situation," said Michael Sciortino, president of the Ohio Association of Election Officials and director of the Mahoning County elections board.

The key will be educating poll workers and voters before the election about the process, Sciortino said.

The Ohio Voter Protection Project, a coalition of voting-rights groups, is considering a lawsuit to challenge Blackwell's directive before the Nov. 2 election, project attorney Sean Grayson said.

Similar lawsuits have been filed in Colorado and Missouri. A lawsuit in Florida was rejected this week.

Ohio is one of 29 states that will not count provisional ballots cast in the wrong precinct, said Dan Seligson, editor of electionline.org, a nonpartisan Web site covering voting procedures.

Ohio has had provisional balloting for more than a decade, mostly to accommodate residents who moved but did not update their voter registration. Such ballots are not counted for 10 days while election workers verify voter eligibility.

But after election problems were magnified by the close 2000 presidential race, including eligible voters wrongly being turned away from the polls, Congress passed the Help America Vote Act in 2002.

Part of that act requires states that did not have provisional voting to adopt it for voters who believe they are properly registered. That allows their vote to be counted if eligibility is confirmed later.

Critics argue that on a busy Election Day with potentially long lines, harried poll workers may not follow through or voters may not have the time or transportation to go elsewhere.

Critics worry that with tens of thousands of new voters registering for this fall's election many voters won't know or be told their correct polling place. Also, precinct boundaries and polling locations have changed since past elections.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: again; ballots; chads; day; election; hanging; ohio; pose; problems; provisional; votefraud
Let the disenfranchisement begin!
1 posted on 09/25/2004 4:19:21 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I don't know who Chad is, but I know he has dimples, and everyone wants to hang him. I also heard he was once pregnant.

Let the silly (recount) season begin.

Just damn.


2 posted on 09/25/2004 4:25:50 PM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: Libloather
Critics worry that with tens of thousands of new voters registering for this fall's election many voters won't know or be told their correct polling place

I am sorry. If you are incapable of figuring out where your polling place, I sure don't want you trying to figure out who to vote for.

3 posted on 09/25/2004 4:28:24 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Libloather

At the rate Kerry is losing voters in Ohio, I don't think we're going to have to worry about any recounts there.


4 posted on 09/25/2004 4:41:10 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: Libloather

Oh goody... Once again we can enjoy watching old democrat hags deciding votes for Kerry from a pile of disputed ballots in the middle of the night. Like that old hag Gunzburger in Miami/Dade who cast HUNDREDS of votes for Gore.


5 posted on 09/25/2004 5:00:40 PM PDT by putupjob
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To: w1andsodidwe

In my life, I've registered to vote seven different times and voted in places ranging from public schools to some local democrat's garage (honest it was on the up and up). I've always known where to go.

Don't voting cards typically have the precinct/ward info?

Don't local newspapers print where polling places are located by precinct/ward?

Isn't the closest public school a good guess most of the time?

This isn't complicated people!!!


6 posted on 09/25/2004 5:01:44 PM PDT by perez24
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To: perez24
Don't voting cards typically have the precinct/ward info?

>>>no

Don't local newspapers print where polling places are located by precinct/ward?

>WHAT, you expect me to BUY a paper for this information? Then you want me to READ?

Isn't the closest public school a good guess most of the time?

>You tried make me go there for 12 years and it didn't work then, what makes you think it will work now?

This isn't complicated people!!!

>I am disinFRENCHized! George W. wants me to go to school, learn to read so I can get a job, (and off welfare) and find out how to vote. I'm a democRAT, I should just rise up and get counted where ever I want!

I think I am just getting bitter in my old age.
7 posted on 09/25/2004 5:55:21 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Ask Questions. Surf The Net. Find The Truth.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

I'm a lifelong Ohio resident, and since I've been of voting age I've always known where to go to vote.

After the 2000 election I heard a dim at work talking about her 70+ year old mother who was somehow "kept from voting".

This was while the florida recount was going on and her story seemed like such B.S. that I decided to probe it a bit under the guise of shock and concern. Her story was the worst concoction I ever heard and I think a 7 year old late for dinner could have done better.

I chalked it up to lunatic raving about nonsense, and throwing out the race card to see if it would fly at work before the voice got a little louder and shriller.

As a follow up, I never saw anything at all substantiated, or even a hint of these supposedly routine allegations ever happening in Ohio.


8 posted on 09/25/2004 6:59:36 PM PDT by libs_kma (FU*K HANOI JOHN AND THE HORSE HE'S MARRIED TOO!!!)
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To: libs_kma

All you have to do is call your court house. They can give you voter registration info. etc.


9 posted on 09/26/2004 6:18:42 AM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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