Posted on 09/26/2004 7:57:55 AM PDT by mr_niceguy
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On August 13, Bill Burkett posted approving comments on democrats.com ( http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=23055 ) about a rabid website that claims President Bush went AWOL while in the National Guard. These remarks were highlighted in an article by Steve Gilbert on the American Thinker website that I want to acknowledge first. ( www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=719 )
The AT piece points out a stark contradiction between Burkett's August comments and his claim to have received the Killian forgeries in March (the cattle show story). Near the end of his August comments, Burkett says "I have found no documentation from LTC Killian's hand or staff that indicate that this unit was involved in any complicit way to either cover for the failures of 1LT Bush . . . " In other words, he is admitting that he had no evidence of such until after August 13.
This means the "evidence" must have suddenly invented itself sometime between the 13th and the 25th, when Burkett posted an article in which he taunted President Bush that "I know from your files that we have now reassembled, the fact that you did not fulfill your oath . . . " ( www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/082504Burkett/082504burkett.html )
The contradiction pointed out in the AT article prompted me to spend some time at the website making the allegations against President Bush. I figured at the very least I'd find a believable explanation as to how an alleged deserter won an honorable discharge, but no such luck! What I did find is a website that I suspect is the information source used by the forger. The reason for my suspicion is simple. There are multiple details in the fake memos that are accurate as to address, dates, players, and military documents. For example:
* The fake dated August 1, 1972 states that the recommendation for Bush's transfer to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron was made in May 1972. A genuine document on the website lists the application for transfer as an attachment and shows that it was, in fact, dated May 24, 1972. ( www.glcq.com/docs/transfer_rejection.jpg )
* The fake August 1 memo notes that the recommended transfer was not allowed. The letter denying the transfer is posted on the website (it's the same document referred to in the above item.)
* The August 1 memo refers to AFM 35-13 and Form 1288. Both are mentioned repeatedly on the website.
* The fabricated memos refer to other officers--specifically, Staudt, Harris, and Hodges. Several documents signed by Harris and Hodges are posted on the website.
* The website has an authentic letter that President Bush wrote to Col. Killian requesting permission to do equivalent training with the 187th Tac Recon Group in Alabama. He addressed the letter to: Col Killian, PO Box 34567, Houston TX 77034. ( www.glcq.com/docs/eqt_request.jpg ) The P.O. Box, city, state and zip correspond to that used on several of the fake documents. This may be significant, as it's my understanding that the use of the P.O. Box address on the fake documents has been something of a mystery.
In addition, I heard someone on Fox say that one of the strange things about the CBS memos was their use of the abbreviation OETR to refer to the Officer Effectiveness/Training Report. Apparently, standard practice is to refer to the form as the OER. And how does this website refer to the Officer Effectiveness/Training Report? Same way as the forger. As the OETR.
I propose that the memos were prepared from information on this website, sometime between August 13, when Burkett posted comments about it and August 25, when he made his claim that "we have reassembled your files." The question is who did the deed?
Gilbert argues that the simplest explanation is that Burkett created them. But I have to wonder how likely it is that someone of Burkett's background would have made the mistakes in them, such as the incorrect abbreviations. In addition to OETR are two others: Grp (Group) and Intrcp (Interceptor). From the real memos on the website (which, by the way are all typed in fixed space fonts) it's clear that the correct abbreviations are Gp and Intcp. Similarly, wouldn't Burkett be familiar with proper style for a military document?
Would like to hear what FReepers think.
For an index of all the documents on the website go to http://www.glcq.com/source_documents.htm . For a chuckle, look up the domain name in the WHOIS database.
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Burkett was Army NG, where as Bush was Air Force NG. It would not be all that unlikely that someone not familiar with the abbreviation in use by the AFNG to make up the abbreviations based upon the standard they are use to. The Question in my mind is how were these items abbreviated by the ANG at the time if they were at all.
www.glcq.com/docs/discharge_request.jpg Assuming I typed the link correctly, entering that in your browser should bring up a document that shows the abbreviation was Intcp for Interceptor and Gp for Group. The fake docs have a letter r that does not belong in abbreviations for both words. With group, the forger does not do it consistently, but does do it a couple of times.
You could be on to something here. I'm especially intrigued by the p.o. box thing. Why would Bush use that addrrss? Okay, but more importantly why would the forgers? Because they couldn't find any other address, prolly.
Yeah, I agree that this should not be called Memogate. That lets Rather off the hook. His name must be forever attached to this dirty trick.
BTW, who is this Paul person?
who is paul lukasika? here-
http://redstate.org/comments/2004/9/10/135321/013/5
here's a link saying Paul Lukasiak should have been credited w/ breaking the 60 Mins/Rathergate story first -
http://eblog.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=39
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OETR: That issue, I believe, has already been discussed. The Air Force (including TANG) uses "OER;" the Army (Burkett's service) uses OETR. This doesn't mean Burkett composed the fakes; but it may mean that Burkett's expertise was called upon by a nonmilitary forger.
"Reassembled": Odd word UNLESS we're talking about retrieving the so-called trashed Bush files at TANG HQ. Has Burkett ever claimed that someone actually DID rummage through the garbage bin after the toss? Does it mean "recreated" because no one actually DID rummage? Does it mean "created" because no such DOCUMENTS existed in the first place and the forged documents reflect nothing more than synoptic rumors?
Here's a comment posted to the article at the link I provided at #11 - comment says Lukasiak provided 60 Mins w/ the info that "tipped" the story.
Postings shown here not for debate on the merits (Jim Rob sez no), but to show how widespread was the belief that these leftie bloggers found the "scoop" on Bush's guards recs and gave that "scoop" to 60 Mins:
. Okay, here comes the cow patties:
Quotes from blog start here:
I doubt it. I doubt theyll [60 Mins] cite Paul either, though he did provide the reporter the information that formed the final tipping point for the article.
Comment by John 9/7/2004 @ 10:59 pm
Congratulations Raw Story - and special kudos to Paul for digging all of this up. I have to admit; I was starting to think this would never see the light of day.
Great job! Thanks for sticking with it.
Comment by Anonymous 9/7/2004 @ 11:14 pm
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by kingfish 9/8/2004 @ 12:16 am
About time the, so-called, mainstream media got off the BUTTS and did some work. Since the war started they seemed to be scared to investigate or even report on anything that would put Bush or the administration in a negative light.
Comment by Donnell 9/8/2004 @ 2:06 am
congratulations on the scoop.
ive been following your coverage on it, for a while, and it seems that yall have your noses pointed in the right direction for becoming the liberal alternative to drudge.
are you really sure you want to go there?
(j/k is kinda cool to have a place that dares to tell the truth and report on stuff the mainstream ignores, that isnt rightwing slanted)
Comment by topaztic 9/8/2004 @ 2:42 am
The Truth is the Truth, you cant hide it forever! Great job Raw Story.
This is gonna be huge for you guys, even if you dont get the direct credit, your readers know the real deal on what youve acheived. The word of mouth will spread! Keep up the great work!
Comment by walt 9/8/2004 @ 9:05 am
Four years and a thousand dead soldiers, and finally the truth is coming out about this weasel. But he is just a front man for a corrupt party. Congratulations on your scoop. Please, please keep it up.
George
Comment by george 9/8/2004 @ 9:22 am
About frickn time!
I am starting a movement to change the name of the war from the war in Iraq to Bushs War.
Please use the phrase in any way as often as you like.
Bushs War.
Put it right in his lap where it belongs!
-Ivy
Comment by Ivy Hamlin 9/8/2004 @ 10:33 am
. . .
Im a bit confused, since Ive been reading in numerous other news sites for months now, how exactly Raw Story broke this one. The Nation, Alternet, the Gaurdian, and several other news sites have been meticulously parsing George Bushs service record, pointing out the very same inconsistencies. Were there some startling new discoveries that I havent heard of? My understanding was that new records released by the military (after extensive FOIA demands by AP and other investigators) revealed absolutely nothing new
Just wonderin!
Comment by Jon 9/8/2004 @ 3:49 pm
Id say to read the story Raw Story was the first news site to prove Bush was AWOL. A lot of sites have reported on this certainly, but we talked to Korb before the Globe who said, quite clearly, looking at Bush records he would have been AWOL.
Also, if I recall correctly, the pieces youre citing were published after our piece. They certainly werent as comprehensive as ours. Anyway, were just happy the piece came out lets all be sure to watch 60 minutes.
Comment by John 9/8/2004 @ 4:02 pm
Ah, the Korb factor. Got it. Bravo, Raw Story! Keep up the incredible work!
Have you all seen how the RNC is already smearing Barnes in advance of the CBS program tonight?
http://www.gop.com/RNCResearch/Read.aspx?ID=4625
Comment by Jon 9/8/2004 @ 5:42 pm
Great workan important story.
Hope you get acknowledgment, but thanks for getting it out there, regardless.
Comment by Diana Wynne 9/8/2004 @ 8:17 pm
Its about timewatch it be a non story on Fox & most of the other supposedly news channels. This is why most smart people get their information from the Internet. Do you think it will be beat unrelently on all the stations like the lies about Kerry? No, the truth about Bush and his cronies rarely sees the light of day in the newspapers or the tv stations.
Comment by Helen Miller 9/8/2004 @ 11:39 pm
I wasnt fortuanate to get home in time to see the special on 60 minutes today. Did they air anything on Bushs Guard record?
I checked out the CBS website and all they had was an interview and another small segment that added up to about 5 to 7 minutes.
I would love to hear from anyone who saw it. Or are they going to air it at another date if they didnt tonight.
Comment by TheLastCowboy 9/9/2004 @ 12:04 am
Congrats on the mainstream pickup. I dont think its uncommon for mainstream reporters to get leads/tips from the alt press but not acknowledge it. But I hope the Boston Globe gives some belated credit. If I were you guys, Id write to the editor and demand recognition. Hey, when Drudge or The Smoking Gun reveals something, they often get the cred. Fair is fair, right?
Comment by Melinda Barton 9/9/2004 @ 8:35 am
Dude! So nobody saw the segment? I missed it last night. Who do I have to kill to see it or get the scoop?!?!!! Somebody? Anybody?
Comment by TheLastCowboy 9/9/2004 @ 2:21 pm
Several reports on right-wing sites are asking some interesting questions about the documents revealed on 60 minutes last night - namely, how a memo supposedly written in the early 70s, has a Microsoft Word superscript function (the th after 111) when all they had were typewriters with Courier font
Also - what about a letterhead?
Im as liberal-progressive as you can get, but some of the questions raised need investigating. Lets see what 60 Minutes says.
Comment by Jon 9/9/2004 @ 4:39 pm
of course, ive known this all along
and to think the military is in his dirty hands
id spit, but i think this 60 minutes will do that for me
congrats!!!!
Comment by eldon 9/9/2004 @ 5:18 pm
The American Thinker is thinking along the same lines as you--
http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=719
Not as far as I know. I think the claim that the files were even in that building has been pretty well debunked.
Does it mean "recreated" because no one actually DID rummage? Does it mean "created" because no such DOCUMENTS existed in the first place and the forged documents reflect nothing more than synoptic rumors?
Check out Lukasiak's website. I think it means recreated using selected facts from certain documents there--with liberties taken, of course.
Very Interesting.
Yep, I'm with you on this. I've thought from day one that Burkett authored the "memo's". Then we have this fishy story about a woman at a cattle show?????
But what sticks out to me the most was the secretary, Carr Knox. When Dubious Dan interviewed her, she said the verbiage was ARMY, not Air Nat'l. Guard.
What did Burkett do in the Army Nat'l Guard?
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