Posted on 09/29/2004 3:10:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Montreal Gazette: If there's trouble in Florida, don't blame chads No paper trail with electronic voting. System prone to software glitches, critics say, and if it crashes ... oh, man
Belfast: Something rotten in the state of FloridaPregnant chads, vanishing voters... the election fiasco of 2000 made the Sunshine State a laughing stock. More importantly, it put George Bush in the White House. You'd think they'd want to get it right this time. But no, as Andrew Gumbel discovers, the democratic process is more flawed than ever.
the biggest scandal is how the Democrats would stoop to any level to make unwarranted accusations that make it appear the GOP did something wrong, when most of the mistakes were made in Democratic districts by democrats. The media still picks up on these lies that the Democrats spread.
Bovine Scatology.
There was no "itimidation or disenfranchisement." That is all Democrat propaganda from the Liberals in the hope to paint them as victims and the protector of miniorities.
The only "irregularities" were counting only hanging chads and pregnant chads from selected counties that had a 7:2 ratio of Democrats vs. Republicans.
The Democrats could not win a football game unless their side had 20 men on the field, the other side 3 men on the field, and the referees were paid off.
The left never yields.
Bush better have a wide margin.
None of us are looking forward to another "Florida vote."
Can anyone determine why these electronic voting receipts are so allegedly important? You don't get a receipt from any other voting method, and they can't seriously be used to verify (or not) a recount. So what practical purpose could they serve?
Is there not a single voting method that the people of Miami-Dade can accept for their citizens?
They'd love to have only one candidate running.
That old communist political system would suit them just fine.
Republicans disenfranchise voters? It was the A.P. who called Florida before the polls closed in the panhandle. I question whether that was an intentional move on their part, but there is no way to prove it. I wonder how many voters went home instead of voting. From what I understand, the panhandle is mostly Republican.
Some of the more lurid allegations of racial discrimination in Florida during the 2000 election, like racial profiling at roadblocks near polling places in black neighborhoods, were never proved, but there is little doubt that African-Americans faced disproportionate difficulties at the polls. In Jacksonville, for example, apparently because of a confusing ballot design, more than twenty-five thousand votes—nine per cent of all ballots cast—were rendered invalid.
With other methods there is something you can check (recount) if an election is contested.
Where I voted this time you mark on paper and the paper is scanned into a machine that compiles the totals, but the paper is still there in case someone says the machine was fixed or whatever.
Where I voted before, we had used the punch card system which worked fine as long as you don't have Carolyn whatsherface and her henchmen poking new holes and bending and twisting the cards (as we saw on TV in Florida 2000) in a recount effort to create new Gore votes.
That method--which is used in Chicago too--has one drawback in that they like to run a long wire down a stack of cards right through the # for their boy, thus creating a vote where people did not vote for that office or disqualifying votes for the other guy(s) because of voting for 2 people and it doesn't hurt their boy at all.
At least in that method you can see what they've done as in Florida when they had soooo many disqualified cards. I don't trust the touch screens with no back up paper trail. If they printed out your vote and you dropped that into a box, then the contents of that box could be counted if the election is contested.
Since the Rats always accuse everybody else of what they have done, are doing, or intend to do; I fully expect massive vote fraud from these touch screen machines plus the usual old fashioned cheating.
BTW almost a year ago the Rat AG in California insisted that the touch screens they just put in would have to be fixed in order to leave a paper trail, but not until AFTER this election.
Suspicions confirmed!
The white Republican male has invented a computer voting machine that smells you when you place your finger on the touch screen.
It rejects all who smell like a Democrat.
Why ... I tell you ... this election is in the bag! ;)
NOTICE TO ALL DIMOCRATS:
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
Your vote will not count if you don't touch the screen.
Your vote will not count if you vote for more than one selection for any one candidate for a single office.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
Your vote will not count if you vote both yes and no on any one ballot question.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
You will be shot should you vote more than the alloted one vote per voter.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
Please remember to touch the screen to indicate your vote.
I know of one friend in California who was waiting in a long line to vote. Somebody had a radio when the phony Florida call was made and word went through the line to vote. My friend and a whole bunch of others left and went home without voting.
I will never believe that VNS (Voter News Service) sent out phony numbers by accident. I totally believe it was carefully planned and executed. And it almost worked.
I see nothing wrong with getting a personal receipt of one's vote with a copy stored for future recounts. The personal receipts can be done on speciallly embossed paper with inks. If a citizen suspects his vote wasn't being recorded properly, he can take his receipt down to the election office and compare it with the receipt number on file. I find it interesting that it is Democrats mostly who seem to be complaining about the electronic voting systems ....perhaps they've been having trouble figuring out how to gimmy the system!
Some people vote on side issues but they make no choice on the big candidates figuring there is no difference between the two. Some people "protest vote" this way! There-fore, I don't think this means that the system is flawed if there is no choice indicated on a particular vote.
Some people vote "No Choice!"
There's nothing "wrong" with the idea. But if the system is gamed, why couldn't it be gamed to give you an accurate "personal receipt" while storing an inaccurate result in both the voting and the recount record? If someone is able to game the system at all, they can game it at any step in the process. Having a personal receipt is no guarantee that the vote was actually recorded properly.
As I said, no other voting method provides a "receipt", so why is it important here except to provide some warm and fuzzies? It serves no practical purpose, and technically it guarantees nothing.
The problem with voting fraud is a people problem, not a technical problem. Even the simplist systems (e.g., Miami-Dade) will fail if voters and election officials fail.
The only potentiall solution is harsh jailtime for those interfering with a federal election.
What's wrong with a pencil and paper?
The nitwit that wrote this article has brought up every conspiracy theory in the Democratic talking points playbook but the one where the magnetic field of a UFO caused Democrat ballots to mysteriously hang their chads.
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