Posted on 09/29/2004 3:10:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
George Bush won all 7 independent Presidential 2000 vote re-counts .
Democrats, including Jesse Jackson, tried in vain to get just one Black person in all of Florida to come forward and prove they were illegally denied a chance to vote or were disenfranchised.
If ones receipt didn't match the official register...it would say that either the voter was submitting a forged document or the official record was tampered with...either way that vote would be canceled out until a further investigation could be done.!
The foreign press will be decidely disappointed when Bush takes FloriDUH by an overwhelming margin. Kerry can campaign to his heart's content - he has made relatively few forays into FloriDUH compared to Bush and doesn't have Bush's ability to provide aid to the hurricane victims. I can just hear Kerry now:
"I actually voted FOR the aid bill - before I voted against it"
In the last trip to FloriDUH, the President participated in handing out relief supplies. In his last trip to FloriDUH, Kerry was taken on a highly orchestrated photo op tour and had little contact with "the little people".
Floridians know the difference.
Also, with Mel Martinez on the ballot to replace retiring Sen. Bob Graham, Cuban-Americans are likely to vote for Bush than Kerry.
I predict that there will be no meaningful controversy in FloriDUH other that the one contrived by the Dems to try to make something out of nothing.
It may be that the Republicans will need to challenge the election results.
Which official register?
Are you saying that each and every voter first votes, then checks their vote against some "register" (hardcopy or electronic??), then validates that vote?
It's not my understanding that votes are tallied at the state level in realtime. They are sent at some point in batch. What if the batch - not the register you mention - is the point of corruption?
This is what I was asking earlier.
I don't see any convincing evidence or even speculation that having a receipt improves any element of voting. And I again assert that stiff jailtime sentences are the only solution to vote fraud/tampering/etc in federal elections.
And I mean 10 to 20 year mandatory sentences.
"What's wrong with a pencil and paper?"
Those instruments have been proven to be "too confusing" to the average dimocrat. Even with hours of practice using crayons and coloring books, the technical prowess needed to shade in an arrow shaped connector has eluded them.
No what I am saying is that if questions regarding irregularities of voting come up in a district...a concerned citizen could have his receipt checked.
Every voter gets a number anyway when he votes in most places. When I voted in NY state they always record the counter number on the side of the machine against my name. That way they can check my name and vote in case recounts are needed and/or questions regarding my viability as a voter are needing answering.
In the scenario I'm suggesting, one receives a receipt with the number and positions and candidates voted on. If a recount is so ordered, concerned citizens can have their receipts checked along with the official record of their votes for accuracy sakes. The votes of citizens of course, who did not turn in their receipts for checking would be subjected to scrutiny only thru what the official computerised records showed...for good or ill!
George Bush is once again in Florida today because of Hurricane Jeanne and will be in Lake Wales. Then off to Miami for tomorrow night's debate. His many trips here recently will be very beneficial.
The article obviously is filled with conspiracy-type nonsense. However, I would be very unhappy if I had to vote on a touch-screen machine. In my opinion, the preservation of a paper trail is a critical component in maintaining voter confidence. As the business world becomes more and more transparent, it is a step backward to remove the possibility of auditing the vote count.
"Some people vote "No Choice!""
Exactly.
1. Bush
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Bugs Bunny
5. No Choice
Please choose only 1.
Oops. I can see the RATS now. The voting machine says to choose Bush. No fair.
Nuance..
People who dig up dead people need time to reflect on how grave digging is desecration. People who vote multiple times need time to learn how to count.People who vote while remaining in this country illegally need time to discover that voting in an American election is the right, duty and privilege of an American citizen. People who vote for other people or change their vote for them, well they need lots of time to find who they are and why they should vote only for their own sorry self.
IMHO, I think both parties cheat. Lyn Nofziger was notorius for paying local black churces to encourage their constituencies to stay hom on election day.
However, saying that, I believe that this is done to counter the Democrats 2,3,4 votes per person strategy. Both know each other cheats and rather than fix it, they find new ways to cheat each other.
The only way you should be able to vote is show a valid social securitty card that can be tracked back to your legal residence.
When you register to vote, your SS# and a valid bill are fed into a computer, logged and you are given a voter registration card, which has a code on it. On election day you present both SS card and voter card. Voter card is scanned for accuracy and you cast a vote. One vote per person.
Pretty simple. You won't be able to vote if you are dead.
So what is there's a 2.5 percent fraud rate at the final tally, when 100 percent of precincts are in and all the voters have gone home. Assume that 2.5 percent swings the election. No one questions the final tally, and it's out of mandatory recount range.
How does this receipt help anyone?
Sorry, technical measures don't work. Don't get fixated on them. Only honest citizens and strict penalties will solve the problem.
Those instruments have been proven to be "too confusing" to the average dimocrat.
How about poking a sharp stick through a piece of cardboard, next to the name of the candidate? It leaves a hole next to the name.
Nevermind, even that is too complex a task for many Rat voters.
Rats believe that proving your identity for voting is "racism" and "discrimination." Apparently Rat voters skate through daily life without any sort of ID whatsoever, and it's really too inconvenient for your busy Rat voter to spend an hour of two getting an ID card from the DMV.
I wasn't suggesting technical measures only would fix the problem. I'm in full agreement regarding tough legal sactions on the cheaters.
The larger issue facing us is more of a metaphysical problem....a problem of confidence in the whole notion of a republican(small r) representative form of government.
It seems that a detirmined minority of folks among the Democrat liberal establishment simply don't believe in representative government but will not publically say so. They look to try to subvert the voting system from the inside so that their candidates win...then they can try to make majority conservative folks feel isolated by saying..."See there...no one really wants your philosophy or beliefs!" They are so blind in their mindset that even cheating and subverting the vote is justified...all in the name of "what Americans truly need"!
It is a cynical con game that in the end will lead directly to a hot CIVIL WAR!
I do not want to see America totally reduced to third world AIDS ridden status, having to pay financial anal dhimmitude to the UN and Europe who are being over-run by Muslims as we speak!
Democrats like to play mind games...well lets vote Bush in and drive them out of their minds!
Jeb and W have only one choice: send in the National Guard.
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