E-Mail Making The Rounds: Reinstating the DRAFT -- a Bill After the Elections!

E-Mail | 9/29/04 | Douglas P. Olsen

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Reinstating the DRAFT -- a Bill After the Elections!

Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26) starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about. This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children that will have to go if this bill passes. There is pending legislation in the house and senate (companion bills: S89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin as early as spring, 2005, just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately. Details and links follow. This plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a shelter and includes women in the draft. Also, crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.

Actions: Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . .And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found in detail at this website:

http://thomas.loc.gov/

Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will bring up the bill for you to read. It is less than two pages long. If this bill passes, it will include all men and ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In addition, college will no longer be an option for avoiding the draft and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada which will no longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to stay within it's borders. This bill also includes the extension of military service for all those that are currently active. If you go to the select service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will see that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the military in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this will effect our undergraduates, our children and our grandchildren. Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how you feel about this legislation.

www.house.gov < DIV>HREF="http://www.senate.gov">www.senate.gov

Please also write to your representatives and ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story. The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service system budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see

www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the Selective Service System annual performance plan, fiscal year 2004. The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp entitled the Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and Canada will not be options. In December, 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30 point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your legislators and ask them to oppose these bills. Just type "congress" into the aol search engine and input your zip code. A list of your reps will pop up with a way to email them directly. We can't just sit and pretend that by ignoring it, it will go away. We must voice our concerns and create the world we want to live in for our children and grandchildren.

Douglas P. Olsen, RN, PhD Associate Director Center for Health Policy and Ethics & Assistant Editor, Nursing Ethics

Yale University School of Nursing

100 Church Street South

PO Box 9740

New Haven, CT 06536-0740

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phone 203 737 5431

fax 203 785 6455

e-mail Douglas.Olsen@Yale.edu

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Just got this today from one of my D friends. This is the kind of stuff making the rounds out there.

[So Cal Rocket]

If any of your lib friends come up to you and tell you that the draft might come back, here's what you do:

1. Feign becoming upset.

2. State "I would never vote for ANYONE in a political party that would bring back the draft!"

3. Engage them in a conversation in the topic - get them riled up.

4. Get them to agree that bringing back the draft is a bad idea and that whatever party is sponsoring it should not be running the Government.

5. After they agree, say "We need to do some research, to see what individuals are sponsoring legislation to bring back the draft - and vote everyone in that party out of office!"

6. Walk over to the computer and go to the House of Representatives website http://www.house.gov and look up HR 163 "Reinstate Draft Bill" and while you're doing it with your liberal friend, mumble under your breath "I can't believe these dirty politicians want to bring back the draft - we need to get rid of those guys who are sponsoring it".

7. Act VERY surprised when you look up the sponsor of the bill. "Oh my gosh... it's not a Republican, it's Charlie Rangel, a Democrat!"

8. Look up the co-sponsors, "Oh my gosh... they're ALL Democrats - all 14 of them!!".

9. Say, "Well, let's see what the Senate has to say on this". Go to the Senate website http://www.senate.gov and look up S89 "Reinstate Draft Bill".

10. Say, "We need to vote these guys out too!" Act surprised when you find the sponsor of the bill is Fritz Hollings - a Democrat!

11. Look at your lib friend and say, "We agreed, we need to vote out the party that is trying to bring back the draft - so we have to vote out all the Democrats".

[Pete]

I saw this on CBS last night so it must be true.

OK, I'm kidding. I would never actually watch CBS.

But they did report it.

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

I have been sending this out as much as possible.

NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO COMMIT FRAUD IN AN ELECTION.  THE FOLLOWING LINKS

COME FROM THOMAS ( http://thomas.loc.gov/ ) A SERVICE OF THE US LIBRARY OF CONGRESS. 

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The email about the draft being sent out as well as the media reports on it is a complete fraud.

First of all, only Congress can reinstate a draft, not the President. Secondly, there are two bills

with only Democrats sponsoring and cosponsoring.   This is a political DIRTY TRICK!!!!!!!!! 

 

DAN RATHER is more credible.   Republicans do not want a draft. DEMOCRATS DO !!!

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Click on the links and see for yourself . Don't be manipulated.

Don't let the slimy media people lie to you! Know the TRUTH!   

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SENATE BILL

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Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC]  (introduced 1/7/2003)  [DEMOCRAT]    Cosponsors (None)

 

LINK TO BILL:

s.89   Senate bill to reinstate draft

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:s.00089:

 

 

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HOUSE BILL

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Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003)  [DEMOCRAT]    

 

 Cosponsors (14) [EVERY SINGLE ONE A DEMOCRAT]

Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003	Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004	Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003	Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003	Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] - 7/21/2004
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003	Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003	Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003	Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 1/28/2003

Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 1/28/2003(withdrawn - 6/21/2004)

 

LINK TO BILL:

h.r.163 House bill to reinstate draft

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR00163:

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[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

Links dont work as posted - closing : needed, but it works in the emails.

[Maria S]

Go to website to read in its entirety. I thought this had been posted enough times over the past several weeks that EVERYONE had seen it by now! Guess not.


Draft Fears Fueled by Inaccurate E-mails
A scare story spreads electronically, but it gets facts wrong.
June 15, 2004
http://www.factcheck.org/printerFriendly.aspx?docid=200
Modified:June 15, 2004
Summary
Several FactCheck subscribers have asked about an e-mailed rumor that is causing a lot of anxiety. It claims that steps are being taken to resume military conscription next year. But the message abounds with misinformation and half-truths. And some experts say conscription is the last thing the military wants or needs, despite being stretched thin in Iraq.
Analysis

We can't say whether this one is deliberate misinformation or just sloppy reporting, but it sure is generating a lot of needless anxiety. It amounts to another "lying e-mail" of the kind we've warned about before (check the links to "related articles" at the end of this one.)

[Bigoleelephant]

This is actually very clever. Looks like the draft is their last ditch effort to scare folks into voting for them. Nobody's going to mention who sponsored the bills, save us, to the general public. CBS? NBC? ABC? CNN? I don't think so.

[pieces of time]

You should send that info to CBS. They seem to have a shortage of researchers in their News Department. They were only able to find the e-mail part of the story not who was sponsoring the bills.
For interest, you can add this link to John Kerry's website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040210043828/www.johnkerry.com/issues/natservice/
This was on another post earlier.

[Michael.SF.]

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 7, 2003

Mr. RANGEL(D) (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS(D), Mr. LEWIS(D) of Georgia, Mr. STARK(D), and Mr. ABERCROMBIE(D)) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

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These bastards really tick me off. This is nothing more then a campaign ploy to try and make people think that because of this war, we must re-institute the draft. Thus the idiots who fall for this crap will vote against Bush. This is about as low as snake poop, which James Carville has to stand on a ladder to see. These guys do not give a rats rear end for anything but their own party and the defeat of President Bush.

I would say more, but we are not supposed to use profanity.

One question to you DU LURKERS How the hell do you guys look yourself in the mirror each day knowing that your party will stoop to such crap to try and further your pathetic agenda?

Have some pride in yourselves and stand up for what you really believe in and do not hide behind falsely based legislation with a phony agenda.

[momfirst]

I absolutely LOVE your suggestion! My brother is a new 18 yr old voting member of society, in college (need I say more beyond that point?), and severely liberal. I just may have to do this with him - no I WILL have to do this with him....and my mother....and my other brother....and my son (who is only 13, but is one of the minority conservatives in his school - give him some practice and ammo to the students that continually harass him)

Thank you!!!

[knuthom]

I got one of those draft-scare emails. I hit reply-to-all and sent out the following. I didn't hear a word back from anyone else on the list.

"If you want to vote against the party which has sponsored both the bills about the draft, you will have to vote Republican. That's right, the bills were sponsored and introduced by Democrats.

HR 163 - was introduced by New York Democrat Rep. Charles Rangel on Jan. 7, 2003

Senate bill is S. 89, was introduced by Democrat Ernest Hollings of South Carolina, also on Jan. 7, 2003."

[feedback doctor]

This is actually very clever. Looks like the draft is their last ditch effort to scare folks into voting for them. Nobody's going to mention who sponsored the bills, save us, to the general public. CBS? NBC? ABC? CNN? I don't think so.

Email this guy Douglas.Olsen@Yale.edu and let him know that you appreciate him enlightening you, that you checked out the sites he mentioned, and there were sponsers of this bill that you were going to vote for but now that you know you will not vote for them. Let him know that this has persuaded you to change your vote to Republican.

[Chode]

Dubya need to KILL this rumor once and for all in one of the debates!!!

[ColoCdn]

Emailed the nursing doctor (kind of oxymoronic, isn't it?) and told him I was afraid for my kids if the dems ever got in.

[Old Professer]

I tried to run your post through the spell-checker but my computer locked up.

[CyberAnt]

"The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now"

THIS IS A BLATANT LIE! Even Rangel (D-NY) who wrote the stupid bill has publically said on Hannity & Colmes that the bill is not even being brought up for a vote. [but these people do lie a lot]

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE WRITTEN THIS BILL TO TRY TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO VOTING FOR KERRY .. AND IT'S THE DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE WRITTEN THE LEGISLATION - NOT THE REPUBLICANS.

I'm all for overwhelming this guy with email - just to let him know WE KNOW the democrats' scheme is a scare tactic and his statements are just plain lies.

[CyberAnt]

Very clever .. it will definitely get a conversation going.

[sitewriter]

We should start an email-writing campaign to those senators/representatives who have sponsored the 2 bills, telling them that we agree with the President... that we don't believe it is necessary to reinstate the draft, and to "kill" the bill.

[fhlime]

Refer your D friend to this entry from Captain's Quarters http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/:
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..lost in the shuffle until now is John Kerry's proposal to
require service for high-school [students], found by Swimming Through The Spin http://snipurl.com/9f7a . Brian found the original web page archived, as somehow this proposal has been mysteriously deleted from the John Kerry website. Since the Democrats brought this up, what exactly are the plans for American youth under a Kerry/Edwards administration?

[As part of his 100 day plan to change America, John Kerry will propose a comprehensive service plan that includes requiring mandatory service for high school students and four years of college tuition in exchange for two years of national service.]
http://snipurl.com/9f78

The more expansive PDF of Kerry's plan doesn't detail how the mandatory high-school service is supposed to work, nor does it clearly explain how they plan to pay for four years of college tuition for the 500,000 students per year they expect to put through this program, other than closing a loophole that allows lenders on student loans to keep extra interest paid. If a "typical public university" charges $5,000 per year for tuition -- a rather moderate amount these days -- then just the cost for the first year alone will be $10 billion, not the $12 billion over 10 years that Kerry claims. ($20,000 times 500,000 students = $10 billion.)

It seems that Kerry has once again been caught in a severe case of projection, and once again has deleted pages from his web site to cover his tracks. His party squeals about a draft which only they have proposed restarting while trying to back-door a plan for indentured servitude for the teenagers of America.