Skip to comments.Eye Witnesses (Four Who Remember Bush Serving in Alabama)
Posted on 09/29/2004 2:01:48 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
The following people have come forward and can confirm for us that George W. Bush was fulfilling his guard duty in Alabama.
Eye Witness #1
James Anderson was a physician for the Montgomery-based 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group. His son, Montgomery physician Noble Anderson, said his father performed a routine examination on Bush at Dannelly Air National Guard base in 1972.
The military doctor says that Lt. Col. John Bill Calhoun brought Bush by his office for an exam, Noble Anderson said. James Anderson could not remember which month he saw Bush, only that it was some time in 1972. (Source: Jessica M. Walker, Doctor Recalls Treating Bush, Feb. 15, 2004, Montgomery Advertiser)
Eye Witness #2
Lt. Col. John Bill Calhoun that he remembers George W. Bush showing up for duty in Alabama in 1972, reading safety magazines and flight manuals in an office as he performed his weekend obligations.
I saw him each drill period, retired Lt. Col. John Bill Calhoun said. He was very aggressive about doing his duty there. He never complained about it. ... He was very dedicated to what he was doing in the Guard. He showed up on time and he left at the end of the day.
The 69-year-old president of an Atlanta insulation company said Bush showed up for work at Dannelly Air National Guard Base for drills on at least six occasions. Bush and Calhoun had both been trained as fighter pilots, and Calhoun said the two would swap war stories and even eat lunch together on base.
He sat in my office most of the time he would read, Calhoun said. He had your training manuals from your aircraft he was flying. He'd study those some. He'd read safety magazines, which is a common thing for pilots. (Source: Allen G. Breed, Ex-Guardsman Says Bush Served in Ala., Feb. 13, 2004, Associated Press)
Eye Witness #3
Retired Master Sgt. James Copeland, who lives in Hartselle, retired from the Air Force on Jan. 31, 1980. He was the disbursement accounting supervisor, a full-time position, for Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Montgomery from Oct. 28, 1971, to Oct. 27, 1975. His office was less than 100 yards from the hangar where Bush performed drills.
Copeland, 65, remembers meeting Bush on two occasions. He does not remember the precise dates. On one occasion, Copeland said, Bush and Lt. Col. John Bill Calhoun came to Copeland's office with a question about Bushs pay. Copeland is not sure, but he believes the question had to do with where to mail Bush's checks.
You hear people saying that everybody (at Dannelly) knew the Bushes. Well, that's just a lie, Copeland said. He was just another pilot. No one paid any more attention to him than to anyone else. There was no hoopla. (Source: Eric Fleischauer, Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL, Feb. 16, 2004, The Daily Decatur)
Eye Witness #4
Joe LeFevers, a member of the 187th in 1972, said he remembers seeing Bush in unit offices and being told that Bush was in Montgomery to work on Blount's campaign.
"I was going in the orderly room over there one day, and they said, `This is Lt. Bush,'" LeFevers said Tuesday. "They pointed him out to me ... the reason I remember it is because I associate him with Red Blount." (Source: Mary Orndorff & Brett J. Blackledge, Bush Was At Alabama Base, Says Ex-Guardsman, Feb. 11, 2004, Birmingham News)
Corroborating Witness #1
Patsy Burks, Calhouns ex-wife said she remembered Calhoun's account.
Bill did come home [from the base] and told me that Bush was there, she said "I think what stuck in my head was that he was helping on the Senate campaign.
What I do know about Bill is that whatever he says is the truth," she added. This issue came up in the 2000 election. ... Bill did mention in 2000 that he contacted someone and said, 'If you need me to come forward, I will.' And they said, 'We're hoping that won't be necessary.'" (Source: Suzanne Malveaux and Justine Redman, Retired Guardsman recalls presidents service in Alabama, Feb. 14, 2004, CNN)
Corroborating Witness #2
Joe Holcombe, 71, was the office manager for Winton Red Blount in his unsuccessful race for the U.S. Senate in 1972. Bush was the county coordinator for Blount's campaign, Holcombe said.
It wasn't too long after he joined the campaign that we learned he was in the National Guard. He was a jet fighter pilot, and that kind of singled him out. That made him seem more respectable to us, I think, Holcombe said.
Holcombe said he remembers a specific conversation when the campaign manager mentioned Bush's National Guard duty.
We were having a staff meeting late in the campaign. George wasn't there and I asked where he was. Jimmy said, 'He's in National Guard today.' That was on a Saturday. I dropped the subject because it didn't matter much to me at the time, Holcombe said.
Holcombe said he also remembers Bush returning to Montgomery for National Guard duty after the campaign ended.
He went home (in Texas) for a few days after the campaign ended. My understanding was that he came back in November, after the campaign, to finish out his National Guard obligation. He gathered up his stuff to take back to Texas with him, Holcombe said.
Holcombe said he might have paid a bit more attention to Bush had he known the man was destined to be president.(Source: Eric Fleischauer, Joppa man: Bush served in Guard in '72, Feb. 13, 2004, The Daily Decatur)
Corroborating Witness #3
Emily Marks Curtis told The Times that she and Mr. Bush met in the summer of 1972 when he went to Montgomery from Texas to work in the U.S. Senate campaign of Winton Blount, a Bush family friend. She said the two became good friends.
After that election, she said, Mr. Bush returned to Texas. A few weeks later, he telephoned to say he was returning to Montgomery to complete drilling days at an Alabama squadron to which he had been transferred that year.
It has been standard procedure for many years for National Guard units to excuse members from scheduled drills for employment reasons, with the stipulation that missed drill time be made up.
He called to tell me he was coming back to finish up his National Guard duty, said Mrs. Curtis, who now lives in New Orleans. I can say categorically he was there, and thats why he came back. She said that he rented an apartment for a two-week stay and that she met him for dinner several times.
I didn't see him go to work. I didn't see him come home from work, she said. He told me that was why he was in Montgomery. There is no other reason why he would come back to Montgomery. (Source: Rowan Scarborough, Bush's drills with the Alabama Guard confirmed, Feb. 11, 2004, The Washington Times)
There is a small reward out there for anyone who saw Bush and Democrats.com claimed Bush could get it if he provided his records. It was almost impossible for anyone to know about these rewards unless you roam the anti-Bush network of trolls. Are they going to pay up already?
Last night I heard Alan Colmes repeat this lie that no one has come forward who remembers serving with Bush in Alabama and, if I'm not mistaken, Bill Calhoun appeared on Hannity & Colmes not to mention appearing several times on FNC. Texans for Truth won't cough up that $50,000 reward either.
So do these Veterans share the reward money that leftists have put up for proof?
As we know from the Swift Boat Vets, eye witness accounts are not acceptable. Only if the after action reports JFK wrote for Bush in Alabama surface will we know the truth.
Oh, and a particularly loathesome freeper has gone around saying that no one remembered Bush being at his drills. Hah!
How dare these guys come from out of nowhere to undermine the Democrats' only chance gaining any traction?
None of these guys were on Kerry's boat.
Can you really trust these sources? I mean, it's not like this comes from a trusted source, like CBS.
Didn't Kerry write those while windsurfing in Cambodia?
Thanks for posting this.
Sgt. Copeland came forward two years ago...and the media still refuses to report it.
The same with the others.
It is a pure BS and there isn't any other way of putting it. They don't seriously intend on paying any reward...the DUmmies might point to it and say there's the proof, but as you can see people have come forward and they remember Bush serving in Alabama.
I still see liberals appearing on the Fox News Channel repeating that same claim. It is a lie. Bill Calhoun noted that 6 people have come forward. I've only found four of them and that includes him...so by my count there were at least two others.
Good point. No wonder CBS did not contact them.
That's funny....because that hag Barbara Streisand came out today urging the Democrats to keep attacking Bush's Honorable Guard Service. I wonder if she's come across and more hoax Shakespeare quotes?
Show them the money.
I just hope the Kerry Kampain peoples are smart enough this time to set a typewriter-like pica or elite font in their MS Word program.
We still don't whether or not Jim Rassman was on Kerry's boat. Thankfully Douglas Brinkley, in his pro-Kerry biography, places Rassman on both PCF-3 and PCF-94.
No, no, no! Kerry wrote those while he was reenacting the battles that took place during the Vietnam War while the actual war was going on and of course he won the lead role as hero. LOL
I've already sent them an email - back on Monday - they haven't replied yet. Perhaps George Soros is worried because I said I'd be giving it to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
Hey...give Max Cleland a break...after all he only has one arm and he lost the other one after he heroically decided it would be a great idea to just pick up a live grenade.
..."and of course he won the lead role as hero...."
For which side? :)
Trying to think like a DUmmie hurts.
Well, you know that John Kerry is a windsurfing flip-flopper. He tries to be on every side, but deep down he's the anti-war guy...the guy that gives aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of war.
The answer is Zero. They can't provide a single person who can testify to Bush being somewhere else. The closet I've seen them come is the Texans for Truth ad where a guy says I doesn't remember Bush. The problem is that he was contacted by the media and admitted that just because he didn't remember or see Bush....that doesn't mean he wasn't there.
Anyway, I have added a link to your post (nice job! BTW) on my page at http://freedomkeys.com/w-tangfacts.htm -- It's easy to copy and email.
So if we just do a little Dan Rather reasoning...it doesn't matter if his accusations are true or not...just the content of the accusation.
Bookmark it for later reference.
The $50,000 reward is a trick. If you read the fine print of the terms for payment, it requires both first-hand witness of Bush's participation AND official documents that prove his presence. These documents cannot be presented in violation of the Freedom of Information Act or in violation of any laws. We know all official documents have been released, so it's not possible for someone to legally get their hands on something that will corroborate his presence in Alabama. You also can't have ANY official status in any political party. Their attorneys definitely knew what they were doing.
In other words the entire "reward" was just a fraud.
Put out a press release that you have filed suit. You and your lawyer can go on radio talk programs, FOX programs etc...
Stop Liberals Lies Ammo PING!
That's not a bad idea...but what do you make of the first witness? A doctor that gave Bush a medical exam at Dannelly.
"Last night I heard Alan Colmes repeat this lie that no one has come forward who remembers serving with Bush in Alabama."
Alan Colmes is a liar and ought to be fired.
Four? Isn't that the number of 9-11 widows for Kerry?
Sue 'em. Sure sounds like a binding contract to me.
bump . . .
Oh no...those are the Kerry five. I don't know why they think a more "sensitive" war on terrorism is the way to deal with UBL, Saddam, Zarqawi, and Islamo-Fascism in general. Especially post-9/11.
"How much would you pay to hear President Bush answering some point that Kerry has made say, "Nice tan, by the way"?
-Jay Nordlinger, National Review Online
Oh! 5! I stand corrected.
My thanks to BulletBobCo for the concept of this
pic and to Conspiracy Guy for the captions!