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Eye Witnesses (Four Who Remember Bush Serving in Alabama)
Bush Served Honorably ^

Posted on 09/29/2004 2:01:48 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

Eye Witnesses

The following people have come forward and can confirm for us that George W. Bush was fulfilling his guard duty in Alabama.

Eye Witness #1

James Anderson was a physician for the Montgomery-based 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group. His son, Montgomery physician Noble Anderson, said his father performed a routine examination on Bush at Dannelly Air National Guard base in 1972.

The military doctor says that Lt. Col. John “Bill” Calhoun brought Bush by his office for an exam, Noble Anderson said. James Anderson could not remember which month he saw Bush, only that it was some time in 1972. (Source: Jessica M. Walker, “Doctor Recalls Treating Bush,” Feb. 15, 2004, Montgomery Advertiser)

Eye Witness #2

Lt. Col. John “Bill” Calhoun that he remembers George W. Bush showing up for duty in Alabama in 1972, reading safety magazines and flight manuals in an office as he performed his weekend obligations.

“I saw him each drill period,” retired Lt. Col. John “Bill” Calhoun said. “He was very aggressive about doing his duty there. He never complained about it. ... He was very dedicated to what he was doing in the Guard. He showed up on time and he left at the end of the day.”

The 69-year-old president of an Atlanta insulation company said Bush showed up for work at Dannelly Air National Guard Base for drills on at least six occasions. Bush and Calhoun had both been trained as fighter pilots, and Calhoun said the two would swap “war stories” and even eat lunch together on base.

“He sat in my office most of the time he would read,” Calhoun said. “He had your training manuals from your aircraft he was flying. He'd study those some. He'd read safety magazines, which is a common thing for pilots.” (Source: Allen G. Breed, “Ex-Guardsman Says Bush Served in Ala.,” Feb. 13, 2004, Associated Press)

Eye Witness #3

Retired Master Sgt. James Copeland, who lives in Hartselle, retired from the Air Force on Jan. 31, 1980. He was the disbursement accounting supervisor, a full-time position, for Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Montgomery from Oct. 28, 1971, to Oct. 27, 1975. His office was less than 100 yards from the hangar where Bush performed drills.

Copeland, 65, remembers meeting Bush on two occasions. He does not remember the precise dates. On one occasion, Copeland said, Bush and Lt. Col. John “Bill” Calhoun came to Copeland's office with a question about Bush’s pay. Copeland is not sure, but he believes the question had to do with where to mail Bush's checks.

“You hear people saying that everybody (at Dannelly) knew the Bushes. Well, that's just a lie,” Copeland said. “He was just another pilot. No one paid any more attention to him than to anyone else. There was no hoopla.” (Source: Eric Fleischauer, “Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL,” Feb. 16, 2004, The Daily Decatur)

Eye Witness #4

Joe LeFevers, a member of the 187th in 1972, said he remembers seeing Bush in unit offices and being told that Bush was in Montgomery to work on Blount's campaign.

"I was going in the orderly room over there one day, and they said, `This is Lt. Bush,'" LeFevers said Tuesday. "They pointed him out to me ... the reason I remember it is because I associate him with Red Blount." (Source: Mary Orndorff & Brett J. Blackledge, “Bush Was At Alabama Base, Says Ex-Guardsman,” Feb. 11, 2004, Birmingham News)

Corroborating Witness #1

Patsy Burks, Calhoun’s ex-wife said she remembered Calhoun's account.

“Bill did come home [from the base] and told me that Bush was there,” she said "I think what stuck in my head was that he was helping on the Senate campaign.

“What I do know about Bill is that whatever he says is the truth," she added. “This issue came up in the 2000 election. ... Bill did mention in 2000 that he contacted someone and said, 'If you need me to come forward, I will.' And they said, 'We're hoping that won't be necessary.'" (Source: Suzanne Malveaux and Justine Redman, “Retired Guardsman recalls president’s service in Alabama,” Feb. 14, 2004, CNN)

Corroborating Witness #2

Joe Holcombe, 71, was the office manager for Winton “Red” Blount in his unsuccessful race for the U.S. Senate in 1972. Bush was the county coordinator for Blount's campaign, Holcombe said.

“It wasn't too long after he joined the campaign that we learned he was in the National Guard. He was a jet fighter pilot, and that kind of singled him out. That made him seem more respectable to us, I think,” Holcombe said.

Holcombe said he remembers a specific conversation when the campaign manager mentioned Bush's National Guard duty.

“We were having a staff meeting late in the campaign. George wasn't there and I asked where he was. Jimmy said, 'He's in National Guard today.' That was on a Saturday. I dropped the subject because it didn't matter much to me at the time,” Holcombe said.

Holcombe said he also remembers Bush returning to Montgomery for National Guard duty after the campaign ended.

“He went home (in Texas) for a few days after the campaign ended. My understanding was that he came back in November, after the campaign, to finish out his National Guard obligation. He gathered up his stuff to take back to Texas with him,” Holcombe said.

Holcombe said he might have paid a bit more attention to Bush had he known the man was destined to be president.(Source: Eric Fleischauer, “Joppa man: Bush served in Guard in '72,” Feb. 13, 2004, The Daily Decatur)

Corroborating Witness #3

Emily Marks Curtis told The Times that she and Mr. Bush met in the summer of 1972 when he went to Montgomery from Texas to work in the U.S. Senate campaign of Winton Blount, a Bush family friend. She said the two became good friends.

After that election, she said, Mr. Bush returned to Texas. A few weeks later, he telephoned to say he was returning to Montgomery to complete drilling days at an Alabama squadron to which he had been transferred that year.

It has been standard procedure for many years for National Guard units to excuse members from scheduled drills for employment reasons, with the stipulation that missed drill time be made up.

“He called to tell me he was coming back to finish up his National Guard duty,” said Mrs. Curtis, who now lives in New Orleans. “I can say categorically he was there, and that’s why he came back.” She said that he rented an apartment for a two-week stay and that she met him for dinner several times.

“I didn't see him go to work. I didn't see him come home from work,” she said. “He told me that was why he was in Montgomery. There is no other reason why he would come back to Montgomery.” (Source: Rowan Scarborough, “Bush's drills with the Alabama Guard confirmed,” Feb. 11, 2004, The Washington Times)

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There is a small reward out there for anyone who saw Bush and Democrats.com claimed Bush could get it if he provided his records. It was almost impossible for anyone to know about these rewards unless you roam the anti-Bush network of trolls. Are they going to pay up already?

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Killian on Lt. George W. Bush

Last night I heard Alan Colmes repeat this lie that no one has come forward who remembers serving with Bush in Alabama and, if I'm not mistaken, Bill Calhoun appeared on Hannity & Colmes not to mention appearing several times on FNC. Texans for Truth won't cough up that $50,000 reward either.

1 posted on 09/29/2004 2:01:51 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

So do these Veterans share the reward money that leftists have put up for proof?


2 posted on 09/29/2004 2:03:30 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
"So do these Veterans share the reward money that leftists have put up for proof?"

A: No.

As we know from the Swift Boat Vets, eye witness accounts are not acceptable. Only if the after action reports JFK wrote for Bush in Alabama surface will we know the truth.

3 posted on 09/29/2004 2:06:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (‘We’re losing anyway, so I’ll surrender faster’ - John Kerry)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

bump


4 posted on 09/29/2004 2:06:51 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Oh, and a particularly loathesome freeper has gone around saying that no one remembered Bush being at his drills. Hah!


5 posted on 09/29/2004 2:08:33 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

How dare these guys come from out of nowhere to undermine the Democrats' only chance gaining any traction?


6 posted on 09/29/2004 2:09:16 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

None of these guys were on Kerry's boat.


7 posted on 09/29/2004 2:09:21 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Can you really trust these sources? I mean, it's not like this comes from a trusted source, like CBS.


8 posted on 09/29/2004 2:10:01 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Brad Cloven

Didn't Kerry write those while windsurfing in Cambodia?


9 posted on 09/29/2004 2:10:10 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Thanks for posting this.

Sgt. Copeland came forward two years ago...and the media still refuses to report it.

The same with the others.


10 posted on 09/29/2004 2:11:09 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (all)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
$50,000 REWARD
11 posted on 09/29/2004 2:12:15 PM PDT by bayourod (The parrot is dead. Honor your guarantee now Dan Rather.)
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To: Plutarch

It is a pure BS and there isn't any other way of putting it. They don't seriously intend on paying any reward...the DUmmies might point to it and say there's the proof, but as you can see people have come forward and they remember Bush serving in Alabama.


12 posted on 09/29/2004 2:13:24 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Peach

I still see liberals appearing on the Fox News Channel repeating that same claim. It is a lie. Bill Calhoun noted that 6 people have come forward. I've only found four of them and that includes him...so by my count there were at least two others.


13 posted on 09/29/2004 2:15:10 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: dead
None of these guys were on Kerry's boat.

Good point. No wonder CBS did not contact them.

14 posted on 09/29/2004 2:17:51 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: TommyDale

That's funny....because that hag Barbara Streisand came out today urging the Democrats to keep attacking Bush's Honorable Guard Service. I wonder if she's come across and more hoax Shakespeare quotes?


15 posted on 09/29/2004 2:18:12 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Show them the money.


16 posted on 09/29/2004 2:18:55 PM PDT by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: Brad Cloven
Only if the after action reports JFK wrote for Bush in Alabama surface will we know the truth.

I just hope the Kerry Kampain peoples are smart enough this time to set a typewriter-like pica or elite font in their MS Word program.

17 posted on 09/29/2004 2:19:01 PM PDT by woofer
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To: dead

We still don't whether or not Jim Rassman was on Kerry's boat. Thankfully Douglas Brinkley, in his pro-Kerry biography, places Rassman on both PCF-3 and PCF-94.


18 posted on 09/29/2004 2:20:12 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

No, no, no! Kerry wrote those while he was reenacting the battles that took place during the Vietnam War while the actual war was going on and of course he won the lead role as hero. LOL


19 posted on 09/29/2004 2:21:49 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: bayourod

I've already sent them an email - back on Monday - they haven't replied yet. Perhaps George Soros is worried because I said I'd be giving it to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


20 posted on 09/29/2004 2:23:22 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: woofer

Hey...give Max Cleland a break...after all he only has one arm and he lost the other one after he heroically decided it would be a great idea to just pick up a live grenade.


21 posted on 09/29/2004 2:25:24 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

..."and of course he won the lead role as hero...."

For which side? :)


22 posted on 09/29/2004 2:28:34 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Lets see, 4 witnesses come forward and 3 corroborating witnesses vs. how many? That can state as a fact that President Bush was somewhere else. And yet these are unsubstantiated, or as the DUers will say, Bush plants (humor, ha) or operatives. And lets see JFK marches 10 or 12 guys across stage vs. 257 SBVT's. Oh wait, SBVT is part of the Bush conspiracy also.

Trying to think like a DUmmie hurts.

23 posted on 09/29/2004 2:34:26 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Well, you know that John Kerry is a windsurfing flip-flopper. He tries to be on every side, but deep down he's the anti-war guy...the guy that gives aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of war.


24 posted on 09/29/2004 2:35:13 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: mountn man

The answer is Zero. They can't provide a single person who can testify to Bush being somewhere else. The closet I've seen them come is the Texans for Truth ad where a guy says I doesn't remember Bush. The problem is that he was contacted by the media and admitted that just because he didn't remember or see Bush....that doesn't mean he wasn't there.


25 posted on 09/29/2004 2:37:42 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
I think everyone should email them at hannity@foxnews.com and give 'em what for. They shouldn't have allowed Colmes to get away with that crap.

Anyway, I have added a link to your post (nice job! BTW) on my page at http://freedomkeys.com/w-tangfacts.htm -- It's easy to copy and email.

26 posted on 09/29/2004 2:42:20 PM PDT by FreeKeys (So SeeBS must think it's OK to plant evidence if you think -- or at least hope -- someone's guilty.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
The problem is that he was contacted by the media and admitted that just because he didn't remember or see Bush....that doesn't mean he wasn't there.

So if we just do a little Dan Rather reasoning...it doesn't matter if his accusations are true or not...just the content of the accusation.

27 posted on 09/29/2004 2:44:26 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Too funny, the link to, Bush Served Honorably ^ is temporarily unavailable due overload.
28 posted on 09/29/2004 2:47:59 PM PDT by harpu
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To: mountn man
Exactly..Ann Coulter wrote about this liberal reasoning process in her book Slander.
29 posted on 09/29/2004 2:48:55 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: harpu

Bookmark it for later reference.


30 posted on 09/29/2004 2:49:35 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The $50,000 reward is a trick. If you read the fine print of the terms for payment, it requires both first-hand witness of Bush's participation AND official documents that prove his presence. These documents cannot be presented in violation of the Freedom of Information Act or in violation of any laws. We know all official documents have been released, so it's not possible for someone to legally get their hands on something that will corroborate his presence in Alabama. You also can't have ANY official status in any political party. Their attorneys definitely knew what they were doing.


31 posted on 09/29/2004 2:51:21 PM PDT by jerhad
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To: jerhad

In other words the entire "reward" was just a fraud.


32 posted on 09/29/2004 2:54:22 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Find a Bush friendly lawyer willing to file a lawsuit against them. Many will do it for the publicity plus chance to gain favor with Bush/Republicans plus a % of any recovery.

Put out a press release that you have filed suit. You and your lawyer can go on radio talk programs, FOX programs etc...

33 posted on 09/29/2004 2:55:00 PM PDT by bayourod (The parrot is dead. Honor your guarantee now Dan Rather.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave

BTTT


34 posted on 09/29/2004 2:58:01 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Bump!
35 posted on 09/29/2004 3:01:59 PM PDT by talleyman (The fruitcake doesn't fall too far from the tree...)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan; ActiveDutyUSMC; dakine; bkwells; chookter; Hacksaw434; thumperusn; ...

Stop Liberals Lies Ammo PING!


36 posted on 09/29/2004 3:05:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump!!!


37 posted on 09/29/2004 3:06:41 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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To: bayourod

That's not a bad idea...but what do you make of the first witness? A doctor that gave Bush a medical exam at Dannelly.


38 posted on 09/29/2004 3:08:09 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

"Last night I heard Alan Colmes repeat this lie that no one has come forward who remembers serving with Bush in Alabama."

Alan Colmes is a liar and ought to be fired.


39 posted on 09/29/2004 3:10:11 PM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Just file the lawsuit and get your publicity. Glenn Smith is a slimeball and will look like a weasel trying to explain the fine print.People will confuse his backtracking with CBS's and the synergistic effect will help.
40 posted on 09/29/2004 3:16:36 PM PDT by bayourod (The parrot is dead. Honor your guarantee now Dan Rather.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

bump


41 posted on 09/29/2004 3:21:49 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Four? Isn't that the number of 9-11 widows for Kerry?


42 posted on 09/29/2004 3:23:12 PM PDT by uncitizen (This is war, not a garden party!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Texans for Truth won't cough up that $50,000 reward either.

Sue 'em. Sure sounds like a binding contract to me.

43 posted on 09/29/2004 3:26:25 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

bump . . .


44 posted on 09/29/2004 3:30:02 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH (Proudly served in the National Guard)
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To: uncitizen

Oh no...those are the Kerry five. I don't know why they think a more "sensitive" war on terrorism is the way to deal with UBL, Saddam, Zarqawi, and Islamo-Fascism in general. Especially post-9/11.


45 posted on 09/29/2004 3:49:46 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Peach

Yup.......LOL.


46 posted on 09/29/2004 3:53:43 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin

Off topic:


"How much would you pay to hear President Bush — answering some point that Kerry has made — say, "Nice tan, by the way"?
-Jay Nordlinger, National Review Online


47 posted on 09/29/2004 3:58:23 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Oh! 5! I stand corrected.


48 posted on 09/29/2004 4:03:02 PM PDT by uncitizen (This is war, not a garden party!)
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To: EdReform; Conservative Coulter Fan

My thanks to BulletBobCo for the concept of this
pic and to Conspiracy Guy for the captions!


49 posted on 09/29/2004 4:31:47 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: EdReform; Conservative Coulter Fan


50 posted on 09/29/2004 4:32:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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