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NRA ad campaign portrays Kerry as poodle ("That dog don't hunt.")
Seatle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 9/29/04

Posted on 09/29/2004 4:03:42 PM PDT by harrycarey

NRA ad campaign portrays Kerry as poodle

By LIZ SIDOTI ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON -- Sen. John Kerry is portrayed as a sweater-wearing poodle with a pink bow in an upcoming advertising campaign by the National Rifle Association, mocking his attempts to portray himself as friendly to gun sports and saying, "That dog don't hunt."

"John Kerry says he supports sportsmen's rights. But his record says something else," the ads say.

Billboards and newspaper ads will run this week, followed by TV commercials, Chris W. Cox, the group's chief lobbyist, said Wednesday. The NRA also plans to emblazon the slogan and the poodle on mailings, hats and T-shirts.

The ad campaign, which the group says will cost several million dollars, is a play on the old saying that means something is so outrageous that it can't be true.

"We need to capture the attention of every gun owner and hunter in the country so they're not fooled by a photo op," Cox said.

Kerry, in appearances in states considered battlegrounds in the presidential race, portrays himself as friendly to hunters and other sportsmen and has gone skeet shooting and trap shooting in front of the media. He says he's been a hunter since age 12 and a gun owner who supports the Second Amendment.

However, the Massachusetts senator has voted in favor of gun control. Kerry supports requiring background checks at gun shows and supported extending the recently expired ban on assault-style weapons. He opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits.

"It's amazing that the leadership of the NRA would attack a lifelong hunter," said Kerry spokesman Chad Clanton. "John Kerry has been hunting since he was a young boy. Anyone who tells you otherwise just isn't telling you the truth."


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KEYWORDS: 2004; ads; banglist; kerry; nra; poodle
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To: Tarpon
Poodle owners do not let their dog vote Democratic.
81 posted on 09/30/2004 10:06:44 AM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: SittinYonder

Don't know if you saw this one.


82 posted on 09/30/2004 10:07:43 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
I'm joking about toy poodles, which I really don't have anything against. A large number of people who own tiny dogs seem to have a problem disciplining their pets, thus the spelling changes to pest.

So, do dog breeders just sit around and say, "Hey, I think I'll breed a miniature version of ______" ?
83 posted on 09/30/2004 10:18:39 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Joe Brower

Thanks for the ping.

Some really good photoshop stuff here, eh?


84 posted on 09/30/2004 10:24:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: harrycarey
Kerry spokesman Chad Clanton. "John Kerry has been hunting since he was a young boy. Anyone who tells you otherwise just isn't telling you the truth."

Chad is probably such a stuck-up, elitist liberal who's never been further west than Washington DC that he's never heard of the "that dog don't hunt" turn of phrase.

85 posted on 09/30/2004 11:11:19 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: harrycarey

"It's amazing that the leadership of the NRA would attack a lifelong hunter," said Kerry spokesman Chad Clanton. "John Kerry has been hunting since he was a young boy."

We know. So does the NRA.

John Kerry has been hunting heiresses since he was a young boy so he could grow up in the manner to which he would like to become accustomed.

I haven't seen his first "bag", but based on the appearance of his second, looks aren't a criteria in getting a trophy in his little hunt - just bucks - as in money, not deer.


86 posted on 09/30/2004 11:18:31 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Sola Veritas
I doubt anyone would use an AR-15 for hunting (other than varmits like prairie dogs). Its purpose is military.

If the AR-15, and by implication the M-16, is only fit to hunt "varmints like prairie dog", why is this weapon the US main battle rifle? Can't the US do better than a varmint rifle.

87 posted on 09/30/2004 11:23:22 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: Freepdonia; harrycarey
HA!HA!..LOL!...reminds me, Gary Larson's FAR SIDE....(the trimmed) "Poddles of the Seregetti" of the 1980s'..a real classic.
88 posted on 09/30/2004 12:58:38 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: elbucko
Can't the US do better than a varmint rifle.

When hunting terrorists.....a varmint rifle would be ideal...

89 posted on 09/30/2004 1:09:30 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: oyez

My mini poodle is a Republican just like his owners. His name is Freedom't Rocket..Rocky for short. He's a Alpha Male.


90 posted on 09/30/2004 1:30:30 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: elbucko

The intent of combat rifles is, generally, to wound the enemy soldier so that his compatriots have to spend the time and effort to pick him up and patch him up. Hence the prohibition against expanding ammo in the Geneva Conventions.


91 posted on 09/30/2004 1:58:06 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Onelifetogive
BANG


92 posted on 09/30/2004 2:59:13 PM PDT by Xphantasos (Ceterum censeo Al-Quaedam delenda est.)
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To: harrycarey

Interestingly enough, the poodle was originally bred as a sporting dog. And Democrats used to be patriots, too.


93 posted on 09/30/2004 4:24:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: aruanan

I don't know anything about dog breeders, but miniature breeds of any dog seem to appeal to alot of people, so I could only surmise that demand would dictate.

I like akitas myself. Different strokes...


94 posted on 10/01/2004 7:04:53 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Drivers of SUVs without brush scratches should be horsewhipped! ><BCC>)
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To: harrycarey

That's also a good analogy of the debates.

President Bush is in the 'working class' category.

Kerry is in the 'show class' category.


95 posted on 10/01/2004 7:09:02 AM PDT by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: mvpel
The intent of combat rifles is, generally, to wound the enemy soldier....

Bullsh*t!

96 posted on 10/01/2004 8:46:22 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: elbucko

Here's what I was thinking of with respect to the military's use of ball, rather than expanding, ammunition:

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The United States did, however, sign the Hague Convention 1907, Article 23(e) which forbade: "...arms, projectiles, or material (sic) calculated to cause unnecessary suffering." As a result, US snipers used M-118 ammo, a "Match" version of M-80 ball. (7.62×51mm 173-grain solid-tipped boat tail).

In late 1985, the Judge Advocate General wrote an opinion which affirmed that expanding ammo was legal for the US to use in operations "not involving the engagement of the armed forces of another State" (like counter terrorist operations, for example).
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97 posted on 10/01/2004 9:06:58 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Onelifetogive; mvpel
When hunting terrorists.....a varmint rifle would be ideal...

There are those who disagree:

David Crane at "defensereview.com"

The following article was written and published in June, 2002.

It's no secret that the performance of both the M4 Carbine and it’s 5.56x45mm caliber have, so far, been somewhat less than outstanding in the war against Al-Queda forces in Afghanistan. In short, the enemy hasn't been dropping quickly enough when they are hit.

The M-16 spits out a bullet that weighs 65 to 85 grains. By comparison .38 Special pistol bullet weighs 158 grains. The M-16's "throw weight" is less than, to a little more than, half of a common civilian pistol.

Terrorists are "varmints", to be sure, but they are much more dangerous than a prairie dog and need more rifle than the M-16 to bring down.

98 posted on 10/01/2004 9:23:49 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: elbucko
Terrorists are "varmints", to be sure, but they are much more dangerous than a prairie dog and need more rifle than the M-16 to bring down.

My understanding of "battlefield" weapons has been that you want the round to seriously injure the bad guy, but not kill him. The logic being that the serious injury creates more advantages for you and more disadvantages for the enemy than a dead soldier...

This may not be true in a war against terrorists...

99 posted on 10/01/2004 9:35:22 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: mvpel
The United States did, however, sign the Hague Convention 1907,...

That's almost a hundred years old. Two World Wars and countless lesser conflicts have produced millions of dead soldiers and made such noble agreements meaningless when only one side intends to comply.

...an opinion which affirmed that expanding ammo was legal for the US to use in operations...

My disparagement of the M-16 has nothing to do with ball or expanding ammo, but with caliber, ball weight and ball velocity. The M-16's ammunition, in my opinion and experience , has too little weight, too small a caliber, and too much velocity for its effective use on the battle field.

The Pentagon has focused too much energy on keeping our casualties low with protective devices such as body armor, than they have in providing adequate offensive weapons such as a suitable infantry rifle. AAMF, the body armor is a consequence of the deficiencies of the M-16/M-4

100 posted on 10/01/2004 9:47:14 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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