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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: nopardons

Bush did fine, Kerry was a better debater, but he didn't really answer what his plan (on any aspect) would be.
Bush stayed on message he missed a couple of zingers from
nerves but his theme came through, and I think the American
people were with him.

Kerry STILL touts his four months as a badge of leadership,
Also I didn't know he'd lost any men during his tour as he
stated.


2,361 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:20 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

I agree. We are not undecided here and those voting for Kerry will anyway. I didn't hear one person at work today say they were going to watch the debate tonight. They were all talking about how the debate was going to prempt some reality show they watch.

I doubt anyone stayed to watch the whole thing like we did, let alone comment and keep score. I didn't even watch the debates in 2000. I 'll bet alot didn't tonight.


2,362 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:32 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: nopardons
CALL CSPAN NOW!!!

202-628-0205 (Support President Bush)

2,363 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:41 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: dead

I'll tell you what got W worst.

Same thing that makes good fighters lose fights, the same thing that makes many wise men stumble.

Kerry made him mad.


2,364 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:42 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: KnutCase
No, the rules state that you can take notes.

Look guys, I'm a charter member of the Grim FReeper Club and I thought it's Kerry race to lose (which he is doing a great job at it), but Bush is doing OK. Me think you want Bush to go over to Kerry and punch him. Slow and easy guys.

2,365 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:45 PM PDT by COURAGE (A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Not to use it as an insult, but W should have attacked on the issue- i think that lehrer, who knew the issue, knew that there was a great retort there and wanted to give it to W. W was not ready.


2,366 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:47 PM PDT by lawgirl (I like knowing where my President is every night- at home in bed with his wife!)
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To: SamAdams76

Truth is, Bush didn't need to win this debate on defense, he is already won that debate by public opinion.


2,367 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:54 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Blowtorch

Wrong...the next debate is the VP debate followed by two more Prez debates.


2,368 posted on 09/30/2004 7:44:57 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Oompa Loompa Doopity Do - I've got a perfect puzzle for you: Find John Kerry's Personality!!)
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To: All

Great debate... Bush defined Kerry

1. Flip Flop
2. Globalist
3. Anti Defense

All Kerry said was

1. Iraq bad
2. Iraq bad
3. I was in Vietnam
4. Iraq not a mistake... even though bad.


2,369 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:02 PM PDT by Porterville (Men have learned to shoot without missing ...and I have learned to fly without perching on a twig)
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To: PsyOp; All

btw, i hope the sheeple don't see it the way i do, and i hope tomorrow's press will be more gracious than i am, but...


2,370 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:03 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftist are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: this_ol_patriot

I hope you are right but Bush didn't properly defend WHY he went to war with Iraq.

The thought of Kerry as President makes me ill.

Kerry made it clear that Iraq was a mistake which it wasn't. Bush should have driven home how when we are at war KERRY REFUSED A SUPPLEMENTAL. We were at war! Whether Kerry agreed with it or not - we don't punish our military with NOT giving them the equipment they need to be successful - Bush should have repeated that over and over again.


2,371 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:08 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

DRAW. Nobody changed their minds tonight.


2,372 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:09 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (‘We’re losing anyway, so I’ll surrender faster’ - John Kerry)
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To: MonroeDNA; sinkspur

I did not watch the debates. Could you and/or Sink give myself and the rest of us TV deprived folks a bit more in depth account of what happened? This doesn't sound good for Bush. Ping me if u decide to start a thread on this. Thanks!


2,373 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:15 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: cyncooper
Brokaw ends with "We invited VP Cheney and he declined". Oh, really, Tom?

Sure, and I invited Breck Girl here, but he declined.

2,374 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:16 PM PDT by steveegg (John F'em Ke(rr)y - I was for outsourcing assassinations before I was against it.)
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To: nopardons

Bush did fine, Kerry was a better debater, but he didn't really answer what his plan (on any aspect) would be.
Bush stayed on message he missed a couple of zingers from
nerves but his theme came through, and I think the American
people were with him.

Kerry STILL touts his four months as a badge of leadership,
Also I didn't know he'd lost any men during his tour as he
stated.


2,375 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:17 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Howlin

Here's the AOL poll


2004 Debate Coverage
Watch a special post-debate show and tell us how the candidates did. Keyword: Press Pass

Jump Below:
· Bush, Kerry on the Issues
· Vote: Who Would Keep Us Safer?


Who won the debate?
George Bush 51%
John Kerry 49%


2,376 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:19 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: All
The truth is the debate turned out to be as

much a "show" as a debate over who will run our

country in a time of war. If you score the debate

solely on show value it was a near tie or you put

f'ing a little ahead since he lies so easily it's

easy to "look" good. If you score the debate on

someone who can actually run the country, deal with

the myriad of aspects that a chief exec. has to deal

with, it's not even close Bush wins hands down. Once again

with Kerry it's the BS effect, he continues to slide by

on BS which works for about 50% of the country. We do

have our work cut out, we have to continue to expose

f'ing for what he is a liar with no plan whatsoever

for the country. Bush is the right man at the right time

but he needs help.
2,377 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:24 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: fooman
GLOBAL TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bush had some good lines, name one line that sKerry made that you can remember ? Bush won this debate unless you are one of the kool-aide drinkers.
2,378 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:25 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: BlessedByLiberty
I've been doing some channel surfing. The Dems -- Biden, McCurry -- don't look happy.

Bush won this debate and I'm kind of surprised because he looked awful there for awhile.

2,379 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:26 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: plain talk

You're right, it was a stupid and faithless post. Mea Culpa


2,380 posted on 09/30/2004 7:45:31 PM PDT by MMkennedy
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