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Presidential Candidate section of the Michigan Absentee ballot (UPDATE: No hoax, small exposure
Live Journal ^ | October 1, 2004 | ann_arbor_ypsi

Posted on 10/02/2004 10:40:30 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

Edited on 10/03/2004 10:54:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I'm posting this because I feel it should be seen, and because I know many people here are going to vote absentee for this upcoming election.

Here is a picture of Presidential Candidate section of the Michigan Absentee ballot, and if you take a look, you might notice something VERY wrong.

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Now, if you look at that, notice how the arrows on the presidential candidates are not aligned....an arrow is left over at the end (pointing to the "Congressional" header), and Bush's name has no arrow. It would appear that the arrows are misaligned by having been moved too far downward.

Provided that you vote for the first arrow (next to Kerry), could this potentially mean that, because the arrows seem to be moved downward, that the arrow next to Kerry's name would actually be a vote for Bush? That someone who doesn't notice this and votes for Kerry would have their vote counted for Bush/Cheney?

To anyone else who has gotten an absentee ballot, is yours the same? Because if it is, this is very serious, and needs to be reported to the County Clerk's/whatever office. Just though I'd share.

via: CaptainsQuartersblog.com


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2004election; absentee; absenteeballots; absenteevote; cantvoteforbush; dirtytricks; disenfranchisedvoter; electionfraud; howtostealanelection; mi; michigan; michiganvoters; napalminthemorning; rattricks
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1 posted on 10/02/2004 10:40:30 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Contact your Secretary of State's office and your Republican Party HQ as soon as possible. The State Republican office needs to file a Legal complaint and get the ballots recalled.


2 posted on 10/02/2004 10:43:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

this for real?


3 posted on 10/02/2004 10:43:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Dan from Michigan; rintense; Hillary's Lovely Legs

ping


4 posted on 10/02/2004 10:43:57 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I found this from Captains Quarters. This needs to be spread wide and far.

All bloggers and pajama people need to get the word out.

Thanks to everyone.


5 posted on 10/02/2004 10:44:08 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Not this $#!t again ...


6 posted on 10/02/2004 10:44:34 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Kill Babies NOT Terrorists - Kerry '04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

7 posted on 10/02/2004 10:44:40 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

It looks to me as though Bush is not really on the ballot.


8 posted on 10/02/2004 10:44:41 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Howlin; Peach

ping!


9 posted on 10/02/2004 10:45:15 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

How can this get out? How brain dead are the elections people there? After 2000 you would think they would recognize that people (including me) remember the name LePore. I guess they wanna be famous.


10 posted on 10/02/2004 10:45:21 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Great Catch, Granholm did promise michigan for Kerry, I guess its at any costs.


11 posted on 10/02/2004 10:46:01 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: JulieRNR21; mhking

For your ping lists...


12 posted on 10/02/2004 10:46:12 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: NavySEAL F-16; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Travis McGee; Dan from Michigan

Important ping.


13 posted on 10/02/2004 10:46:22 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Could Kerry's votes go for the Greens?


14 posted on 10/02/2004 10:46:47 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: Old Sarge; timpad; DocRock; Constitution Day; John W; cyborg; ServesURight; The Scourge of Yazid; ..

(To anyone else who has gotten an absentee ballot, is yours the same? Because if it is, this is very serious, and needs to be reported to the County Clerk's/whatever office. Just though I'd share.)

important voter fraud ping


15 posted on 10/02/2004 10:48:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Here's some more information.

This ballot is from one precinct in Alma, MI. 69 (that's not a joke) absentee ballots were mailed out before the error was brought to the clerk's attention. Replacement ballots have been ordered and will be mailed to the voters who received misprinted ballots.

Did you receive this ballot recently in Washtenaw County? Apparently other counties have the same error and new absentee ballots had been printed.

According to comments at DailyKos, reprints have been sent: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/1/135446/991 (thanks to Rob: http://goodspeedupdate.com/ )

These were some of the comments left at the site.

16 posted on 10/02/2004 10:48:34 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

The ballot looks to be "creased" - perhaps that is the problem - just a thought -

If you think that isn't the case - then asked an election official about it - before you start any issue that may not be true - these are troubling times as it is -

just my opinion - ask first, act second - depending on the answer


17 posted on 10/02/2004 10:48:56 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: NavySEAL F-16

You've got to get this to the RNC ASAP.


18 posted on 10/02/2004 10:49:35 PM PDT by Petronski (Watching Heinz and Kerry show affection is like watching two lobsters in a kung fu movie.)
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To: Pastnowfuturealpha
Here's one more comment from site:

Hi, I have an LJ account, but I'm not really involved in the community. A friend posted this in LJ somewhere. I'm originally from Gratiot Co. and am registered to vote there, but I live in AA. That's the ballot I received on September 29th. I called the company as soon as I saw the error, and received a call from Barbara Gager (city clerk) early the next morning. Apparently, it only affects a small number of ballots, but evenso, it's a fairly grievous error.

Moral of the story: Check your ballot closely when you vote this November.

19 posted on 10/02/2004 10:52:33 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
I found this from Captains Quarters. This needs to be spread wide and far.

The entry is here at Captain's Quarters blog.
20 posted on 10/02/2004 10:53:01 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Did you know I served in the Clone Wars?")
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To: NavySEAL F-16

If the Democrats are counting on tons of absentee ballots in their vote-fraud efforts, this will kill THEM, not Bush. I think this absentee ballot should be freely distributed in Detroit and every other Democrat parasite nest in Michigan.


21 posted on 10/02/2004 10:55:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
BUSH IS NOT ON THE BALLOT!!!!!!!

i'm pretty sure if there is not an arrow by his name you cannot vote for him!
22 posted on 10/02/2004 10:57:39 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: KiloLima; eagle mama

Low down dirty rats ping!
Spread the word!


23 posted on 10/02/2004 10:57:54 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Good idea -

(To me it looked like some ballots got creased and were not checked over good before they were sent out)

We just started using the electronic voting machines - last time I voted I was lost - this time I plan to stay in the booth and figure it out no matter how long it takes -

Thanks and take care -


24 posted on 10/02/2004 10:58:01 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: NavySEAL F-16; Dan from Michigan
I see you are a member of the Pajamahadeen.

McCullough: Brokaw and Jennings comfort Rather, compare Bloggers to Terrorists

Obviously Brokaw is talking about you.

25 posted on 10/02/2004 10:58:11 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

another problem w/ it.

it's says democratic not democrat
there is no such party as the democratic party


26 posted on 10/02/2004 10:59:33 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: NavySEAL F-16

that's screwy, and whatever authorities are in charge of oversight must be notified (AND put on notice) immediately.


27 posted on 10/02/2004 11:00:46 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

If anyone actually received a ballot like that, IMMEDIATELY call then bring it into the county auditor. Also notify your Republican Party STATE Chair - ASAP


28 posted on 10/02/2004 11:01:00 PM PDT by Libertina (10 Little Lying MSM Networks. CBS went down, and soon there'll be none!)
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To: DixieOklahoma

I see that, and I'm very, very upset about it...I was just wondering what kind of system it was, and if it impacted the entire ballot or just the Bush/Cheney portion.


29 posted on 10/02/2004 11:01:29 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: DixieOklahoma

Am I not mistaken to believe that if there is not an arrow by bush's name he is not on the ballot?


30 posted on 10/02/2004 11:02:19 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: za_claws
it's says democratic not democrat there is no such party as the democratic party

That's also a pet peeve of mine. But, unfortunately, you very rarely see Democrat used anymore. Same thing with liberal is now progressive. Dems have figured that "tic" must be more palatable to their voters.

31 posted on 10/02/2004 11:03:10 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: DixieOklahoma

something is up with the ballot.. something is messed up by mistake or otherwise and it needs to be fixed. Either way, new absentee ballots will thwart the democratic voter fraud machine, they won't have enough time to put new fakes together.


32 posted on 10/02/2004 11:03:57 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: Mike Fieschko

I was in such a hurry to post before site went down, I left the URL for Captains Quarters off the post. I have asked Admin to correct and put in via CaptainsQuarters.


33 posted on 10/02/2004 11:04:17 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Libertina

did the same web-site that pointed out the forgeries in rathergate point out another huge fraud? Freepers you are making me one happy guy.


34 posted on 10/02/2004 11:06:41 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Ballots are made by county or township/city level. According to the comments, it sounds like a SNAFU from Gratiot County or Alma, MI.

I haven't heard anything about it here. I'll see what I can find out.

35 posted on 10/02/2004 11:08:26 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: DixieOklahoma

oh i see from captians.... either way guys, gals foward this to Drudge.


36 posted on 10/02/2004 11:08:48 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: Dan from Michigan
MESSAGE RECEIVED... WILL CONSIDER AND INVESTIGATE... RETURN TO DRUDGE REPORT...

spread the news.

What county did we decide these were made in?
37 posted on 10/02/2004 11:11:43 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: DixieOklahoma
It would likely be under the juristiction of the city of Alma or Gratiot County if the post is legit.

I think the city of Alma.

38 posted on 10/02/2004 11:14:07 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

"To anyone else who has gotten an absentee ballot, is yours the same? Because if it is, this is very serious, and needs to be reported to the County Clerk's/whatever office. Just though I'd share."

Problem solved. "These are not the droids you're looking for."

They are just Palm Beach County Florida ballots.

"Move along."


39 posted on 10/02/2004 11:15:40 PM PDT by charleston1 (No prisoners.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Bump.


40 posted on 10/02/2004 11:21:48 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I can only imaging the national scandal this would cause, that is if it was sKerry/Edwards with no arrows.


41 posted on 10/02/2004 11:22:38 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Since these things are electronically scanned and the arrows are for the benefit of (morons) the user...does it really matter?


42 posted on 10/02/2004 11:24:39 PM PDT by norton
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To: DixieOklahoma; NavySEAL F-16; Dan from Michigan
either way guys, gals foward this to Drudge.

I just emailed Rush.

43 posted on 10/02/2004 11:28:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

i'm having concerns that this post is not legitimate


44 posted on 10/02/2004 11:34:48 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: NavySEAL F-16
DAILYKOS.COM is a sKerry-kissing, Soros-loving, anti-Bush screed site.

PLEASE don't take anything from there at face value!

45 posted on 10/02/2004 11:35:06 PM PDT by Watery Tart (Where is Treblinka, Kenneth?)
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To: charleston1
no, florida had a butterfly ballot from what I can recall... if this was from florida than it is more damaging because it proves that in 2000 the dems left bush off.

but like i said, theirs was a butterfly ballot
46 posted on 10/02/2004 11:36:43 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: Watery Tart
DAILYKOS.COM is a sKerry-kissing, Soros-loving, anti-Bush screed site.

what are you talking about, please clarify
47 posted on 10/02/2004 11:38:20 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: DixieOklahoma

and besides kerry edwards wasn't around back then.. this looks pretty legitimate to me.


48 posted on 10/02/2004 11:39:35 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: norton
Since these things are electronically scanned and the arrows are for the benefit of (morons) the user...does it really matter?

Optical mark systems almost always use printed markings on the paper as a positional reference; the arrows almost certainly serve not only as a marker for the user, but for the scanner as well. I would expect that a ballot with a "Kerry" mark would scan for Bush, one for Cobb would scan for Kerry, etc. A ballot marked for Bush would get kicked out as invalid.

Incredible mess.

49 posted on 10/02/2004 11:45:02 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat
I would expect that a ballot with a "Kerry" mark would scan for Bush,

That's not a bug, it's a feature.

50 posted on 10/02/2004 11:49:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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