Conservative group targets Bush over immigration

North County Times ^ | 2 October 2004 | William Finn Bennett

[NewRomeTacitus]

...it sure beats the hell out of being an anti-American, Illegal Alien hiring slave-labor Employer, out to line his/her own pockets at the expense of my fellow Citizens.

Boy, are you already in big trouble here. Slimy scum like those you're criticizing are primary contributors. How dare you threaten the illegal alien Golden Goose! (big-time sarcam implied).

I take a lot of flack for pushing traditional fair trade over piratical Free Trade, so I welcome the inevitable arguments over this rampant use of illegal laborers. Other than being flat-out WRONG, illegals drive down wages and suck our social services net dry. Employers of illegals have been granted an under-the-radar bye and secretive wink by being granted the passive "proof after the fact" position on documentation proof despite harsh laws and penalties legally required for them. It's past time to start prosecuting. Start with the lawless and arrogent Tyson Chicken company.

[cyborg]

I don't think McClintock would have been elected. The voting public doesn't seem to like anyone too conservative.

[risk]

Tom McClintock is probably less "right wing" than the media painted him. But the TV stations and newspapers here are run by Che Guevara's apostles.

[Terp]

I have a question. Why can't the States take care of the borders? Why is it up to the Federal Government?

[raybbr]

Nice post. It's wasted on the anyone but those of us who are rational and wish to preserve the sovereignty of the U.S. Everyone else seems to think that illegal aliens are the future of America. I don't get it at all.

[BlackbirdSST]

Slimy scum like those you're criticizing are primary contributors.

They should be contributing from behind steel bars. The sooner that happens, the sooner this problem will solve itself. Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

Why is it up to the Federal Government?

Constitution? Blackbird.

[NewRomeTacitus]

You're a smart woman and know Fox's government is in peril of neck-stretching if ours would just close the border. It needs to be done as soon as possible because propping up their bad joke of a government hurts more people the longer we allow it to go on. If we don't slam the gate we consign yet another generation of Mexicans to literal peonage (at our ultimate expense). Closing the border now is the most humanitarian thing to do.

[risk]

I enjoyed it, too - once raybrbr bumped it to our attention.

[Ron H.]

Illegal Immigration will be the defining issue after 2004. If Bush continues to ignore the problem after he is re-elected, the Republican party will be torn apart. There are many republicans who are only holding their nose and voting for the party establishment this one last time because they feel obligated not to switch horses mid-stream after 9-11. However, with the WH open in 2008 the pressure and abosolute need to deal with this problem will not be held back any longer

Not only what you said but Bushs stance on and strong advocacy for the massive invasion from the South will cause the Republican party to lose decisive seats in the House for sure and possibly even in the ever growing socialist based Senate. This is becoming a divisive and defining issue with each passing day in rural America. More and more traditional tax paying citizens are starting to connect the dots between this issue and their out of control property taxes that is on the verge of driving them into the poor house and jeopardizing their and their children's future.

I too see a coming split of the Republican party caused by the Bush administration and its ineptness, hard headdress and utter stupidity over these kind of socialist stances. He appears to value the support of the neocons, RINO's and Republican socialist's more than he does the base of his own party. The time to elect Bush to a lame duck term is upon us it seems I'm afraid.

[cyborg]

If that ever happened, I think we would get an idea of what happened during the French Revolution!

[cyborg]

yep!

[risk]

Speaking of the UN and Mexico, they keep siding against us from their temporary position on the UN security council. And check out this working paper on security council reform authored -- by Mexico. I see some good and bad in it.

Japan and India belong on the security council, IMHO. Mexico is a backwater and backward hole in the wall, even if the food is good.

[raybbr]

Thanks for the pings everyone. May I make a suggestion?

Why don't you include this site, which chronicles every member of congress' record on immigration - in your ping lists.

I think people are very unaware of the betrayal perpetrated on them by their "representatives".

[cyborg]

Caroyln McCarthy is in the red zone. As if this would be news to me! :(

[risk]

Great site, but I think the anti-population meme is just as dangerous as the pro-immigration one it tries to counter. If the net effect is growth for Americans (all races, creeds) I'm happy. If not, then who's trying to stifle us? There is no more harmful attack than on our own population.

[jammer]

I understand your anger, but that brush you painted with produced a pretty wide stroke--in my case and in that of many others I know, incorrectly.

You mentioned the Bush family, but many of us supported Bush, Sr. until his liberal policies began to outweigh his conservative policies (and I voted for him in 1992). Many of us unequivocally supported the President until his liberal policies began to outweigh his conservative policies (and I will vote for him in 2004 with held nose).

But to blame the messenger and "never forgive" critics is directing your well-deserved anger at the wrong target. In general, your anger should be directed, not at those who insist upon elected officials governing as presented during campaigns, but precisely at those elected officials who present themselves as one thing and govern as another.

Sorry you will never forgive me, but I really didn't ask for your forgiveness. Some of us think that if any forgiveness is in play, it is from us to those who support a man rather than principal, all the way to destroying the party and the Republic.

You do please me by saying that I'm not the kind of conservative you want to know--I feel the same about you.

[Ron H.]

Jack, please add me to your "official list of fellow anti-Bush freepers". I don't mind at all being outed,

Welcome aboard BlackbirdSST. You'll find that most of us aren't Bush haters but rather law-of-the-land and the Constitution boosters and supporters! We believe in being governed by the 'Rule of Law of the Land' and not the 'Rule of any single Man'. But bring your flame retardent suit when entering here.

[grania]

This is an outrage. With all that is at stake in this election, these people are encouraging voters to oust the President? Are they insane? What kind of country do they think they will get with Kerry as President?

The thinking is that by ousting GWB the electorate sends a powerful message that it was pro-border former supporters that cost politicians the election. Then, politicians might actually get the message and be more like Representative Tancredo in viewpoint, and less like Vincente Fox.

[risk]

Let's take a little assessment of the War on Terror. Despite rollbacks in defense spending and intelligence gathering abilities during the Clinton administration, our preparedness to fight a war was surley better in 2001 than it was in 1940. Yet three years has passed. When will the Battle of Midway in this war occur? When will D-day happen? Not anytime soon. We're talking about a generational conflict -- again. If we resolved to win this war in six months, it could be done, starting today. Let that be our October Surprise.