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Conservative group targets Bush over immigration
North County Times ^ | 2 October 2004 | William Finn Bennett

Posted on 10/03/2004 9:47:51 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

Fed up with what they say is the Bush administration's failure to address a growing illegal immigration problem, a small group of conservatives has launched a series of radio ads seeking to convince voters to oust President Bush from office.

Last week, a group called Friends of the Border Patrol began a series of ads on KABC-AM in Los Angeles blasting Bush for "playing politics with national security."

The group plans on running the same ads in Arizona starting this week, before the Oct. 13 presidential debate in Phoenix, and in the following weeks in Nevada and New Mexico, a spokesman for the group said.

While California is generally considered to be safely in the Kerry camp, New Mexico and Nevada are seen as swing states that could go to either candidate in what is expected to be a close presidential race. Ron Prince, the chairman of Friends of the Border Patrol, said that he believes that Bush could lose Arizona as well.

In Nevada, three recent polls conducted in that state showed Bush with a five-point lead, 49 percent to John Kerry's 44 percent. In Arizona, recent polls show Bush with an average 10-point lead over Kerry, 52 percent to 41.3 percent. Kerry is leading Bush in New Mexico ---- barely ---- 46 percent to 45.5 percent.

A spokesman for the Arizona Republican Party said Friday that he expects that the radio ads will have little effect on the presidential race in that state.

"We've come a long way from being a battleground state," said Colin McCracken, communications director for the Arizona Republican Party. "The president's support in Arizona is overwhelming, and very little is going to change that."

Friends of the Border Patrol was formed in August to support the work of rank-and-file U.S. Border Patrol agents and to protest what the group sees as the federal government's obstruction of the job those agents perform, according to the group's executive director, Andy Ramirez.

He said the impetus for forming the group and airing the radio ads came during a July 24 rally at the Temecula Border Patrol station. The rally was held to protest a Border Patrol administration decision to halt a series of sweeps of Inland cities that ---- in just two weeks in June ---- had netted nearly 500 illegal immigrants.

Ramirez said he and Prince "just looked at each other and realized ... we've got to do something about this."

Prop. 187 author

Prince is best-known as the co-author of 1994's Proposition 187, an initiative that would have denied public benefits to illegal immigrants. He has been a consistent critic of President Bush for not taking stronger action on immigration reform. About 60 percent of California voters approved Prop. 187, but in 1995, a federal appeals court overturned it.

Late last year, Prince and Ramirez backed a similar initiative, dubbed "Save our State," but they failed to gather the nearly 800,000 signatures necessary to put the measure before voters in November.

While they are concerned about the economic effects of illegal immigration, they say their biggest worry is that terrorists can slip across the porous U.S. border with Mexico.

"I think it's more important to defend my nation than to be walking in lockstep like a good little Republican just because he is president," Ramirez said.

Because it is generally conceded that California's electoral votes will go to Kerry in November, Ramirez acknowledged that running the ads here is little more than a symbolic gesture, but that they still wanted to make the statement.

"We didn't want to ignore our base," he said.

Possible swing states

It is in the Southwestern swing states of Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico where the group plans on investing most of its efforts and advertising dollars, Ramirez said.

Highest on the agenda is Arizona. Prince said he has raised about $20,000 of the estimated $25,000 cost of the radio advertising campaign he plans to run in Arizona before the Oct. 13 Phoenix debate. He plans to spend another $25,000 for advertising in Arizona between the debate and Election Day, as well as about $10,000 in both Nevada and New Mexico.

Even those relatively small states could tip the election, Prince and Ramirez note. If Kerry were to win all the states won by Al Gore in 2000 and carry either Arizona or Nevada, which went to Bush in 2000, Kerry would win the election. Arizona has 10 electoral votes, while Nevada has five.

New Mexico, with five electoral votes, is being included in the ad push, they say, because it is a border state and considered "in play," even though polls show it to be leaning toward Kerry. Gore won it in 2000 by just 303 votes.

Prince said that voter resentment in those states toward Bush and his immigration policies could provide Kerry with just enough votes to make the difference and cost Bush re-election.

"With this contest, where both Kerry and Bush are standing on the edge of the cliff, just one little push could make the difference," Prince said.

An unpopular stance

The pair say they know their efforts are costing them support and friends in Republican political circles, but that they feel so strongly about the immigration issue they are willing to help elect Kerry to get their message across to the Republican Party leadership.

"This is bigger than being a Republican or a Democrat . We need a new commander in chief that will protect our borders," Ramirez said.

Some area Republicans, however, say that because of the overwhelming support for Bush within the Republican Party, they don't expect the ads to have much of an effect.

"I haven't heard anything but a strong commitment from conservatives of getting the president elected," said San Diego County-based Republican political consultant Scott Barnett.

"He is the first president who actually understands Mexico, (that) people are coming here from Mexico because they want better lives," he added.

Guest-worker program

Ramirez said the group is upset with the president for his support of a guest-worker program that would allow foreign citizens to come to the United States for temporary work, an idea touted in the Bush campaign platform. The guest-worker program would also allow illegal immigrants already in the country to sign up.

White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said last week that Bush proposed the program, in part, to fill an economic need.

"The temporary-worker program matches willing foreign workers with willing U.S. employers when no (available) American workers can be found," he said.

When asked how the government would determine whether there are no Americans willing to take those jobs, Lisaius said that the details of the program are still being worked out with Congress.

Lisaius said the program would also make America safer because it would require that those illegal immigrants who join the program register with the government, making it easier to track their whereabouts. It would also require that workers return to their county of origin once their yet-to-be determined time limit has elapsed.

Ramirez disputed Lisaius' assessment.

"They can claim it's a guest-worker program, but Americans are not fooled ---- it's amnesty," he said.

Matricula consular

Another sore point with the group is the Bush administration's successful efforts to cut a portion of a bill now before the House of Representatives that would have barred American banks from accepting as identification a document issued to Mexicans in this country by the Mexican government.

On Sept. 14, the Associated Press reported that after the Bush administration opposed that part of the bill, which would have banned the use of the "matricula consular" by U.S. banks. Congress then voted to strike the wording from the bill.

One nationally recognized conservative figure who wants to remain anonymous said last week that he believes the illegal immigration issue represents a threat to Bush's chances of re-election.

"The unrest is widespread amongst conservatives," said the man, who served as a campaign consultant on Ronald Reagan's 1976 and 1980 presidential campaigns.

But those Republicans who oppose the president's policies on illegal immigration ---- including him ---- are afraid to publicly denounce Bush, he said.

"They don't want to take the heat from the Republican establishment, don't want to be seen as being disloyal," he said.

Fear, he said, also underlies the Bush administration's failure to take a stronger stand on illegal immigration ---- fear of losing votes, he said.

"They are scared as hell of the Hispanic vote; it's all about the election," he said.

The 2000 U.S. Census reported that 38.8 million Latinos live in the United States. A 2002 update by the Census Bureau estimated that in just two years that population had increased by 9.8 percent, about four times greater than the rate of growth for the population as a whole.

In 2000, 62 percent of Latinos voted for Gore. According to a July poll conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center, Kerry is projected to garner the same 62 percent of the Latino vote, Bush 32 percent.

Businesses ignored

Ramirez said many conservatives are also mad at Bush because of what they see as his administration's failure to crack down on those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

"Every single company that hires illegal immigrants should be fined," Ramirez said. "This is all about cheap labor."

Prince said big-business interests have pressured Bush into laying off companies that hire illegal immigrants.

"In the old days, (political) patronage was all about providing jobs. Now, it's about campaign contributions from business interests," he said.

In the 2004 Republican Party platform, it states: "There must be strong workplace enforcement with tough penalties against employees and employers who violate immigration laws."

A U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman said in a recent interview that the number of companies investigated nationwide for hiring illegal immigrants has increased significantly. However, federal records show that the number of fines issued against companies for the practice has plummeted.

The records show that in 2001, 141 companies across the country were hit with fines, 15 of them in California. By 2002, those numbers had dropped to 73 and one, respectively. In 2003, 15 companies in the United States were fined, none of them in California. And as of May 2004, just one company ---- in Maryland ---- was fined. May was the most recent month for which statistics were available.

The former campaign consultant to Reagan said he believes that Bush is not coming down harder on illegal immigrants out of a need to satisfy big-business interests.

"They want more cheap labor. All they are interested in is their profits," he said.

The ads pound the same point: "We believe the president wants illegal immigration. Why? Because illegals work cheap; that's the bottom line."

The cost of cheap labor

But the price that America pays for that cheap labor is too high, the ads go on to say: "You can't keep the borders open and the terrorists out."

Jack Orr, a San Diego County-based political consultant, said Monday that he was unaware of the radio advertising campaign against Bush. He added that while he has heard people within the Republican Party complain about Bush's guest-worker proposal and other immigration policies, he has not heard anyone say they would go so far as to vote against his re-election.

"This is certainly misplaced at best, and at worst, it's bad timing," Orr said.

While he doesn't anticipate the radio ads will have an effect in California, he said he believes they could affect the election in states such as Arizona and Nevada. And in a tight race, he said, it might even affect the outcome of the election.

"It could have the effect of handing it to John Kerry," Orr said. "I would say to those people mounting this campaign, be careful what you wish for."


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To: BlackbirdSST
...it sure beats the hell out of being an anti-American, Illegal Alien hiring slave-labor Employer, out to line his/her own pockets at the expense of my fellow Citizens.

Boy, are you already in big trouble here. Slimy scum like those you're criticizing are primary contributors. How dare you threaten the illegal alien Golden Goose! (big-time sarcam implied).

I take a lot of flack for pushing traditional fair trade over piratical Free Trade, so I welcome the inevitable arguments over this rampant use of illegal laborers. Other than being flat-out WRONG, illegals drive down wages and suck our social services net dry. Employers of illegals have been granted an under-the-radar bye and secretive wink by being granted the passive "proof after the fact" position on documentation proof despite harsh laws and penalties legally required for them. It's past time to start prosecuting. Start with the lawless and arrogent Tyson Chicken company.

161 posted on 10/04/2004 3:00:40 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: risk

I don't think McClintock would have been elected. The voting public doesn't seem to like anyone too conservative.


162 posted on 10/04/2004 3:00:46 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

Tom McClintock is probably less "right wing" than the media painted him. But the TV stations and newspapers here are run by Che Guevara's apostles.


163 posted on 10/04/2004 3:03:38 AM PDT by risk
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To: All

I have a question. Why can't the States take care of the borders? Why is it up to the Federal Government?


164 posted on 10/04/2004 3:06:31 AM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: seastay

Nice post. It's wasted on the anyone but those of us who are rational and wish to preserve the sovereignty of the U.S. Everyone else seems to think that illegal aliens are the future of America. I don't get it at all.


165 posted on 10/04/2004 3:09:52 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Slimy scum like those you're criticizing are primary contributors.

They should be contributing from behind steel bars. The sooner that happens, the sooner this problem will solve itself. Blackbird.

166 posted on 10/04/2004 3:11:28 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: Terp
Why is it up to the Federal Government?

Constitution? Blackbird.

167 posted on 10/04/2004 3:13:10 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: cyborg

You're a smart woman and know Fox's government is in peril of neck-stretching if ours would just close the border. It needs to be done as soon as possible because propping up their bad joke of a government hurts more people the longer we allow it to go on. If we don't slam the gate we consign yet another generation of Mexicans to literal peonage (at our ultimate expense). Closing the border now is the most humanitarian thing to do.


168 posted on 10/04/2004 3:14:45 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: raybbr; seastay; cyborg

I enjoyed it, too - once raybrbr bumped it to our attention.


169 posted on 10/04/2004 3:16:40 AM PDT by risk
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To: rmmcdaniell
Illegal Immigration will be the defining issue after 2004. If Bush continues to ignore the problem after he is re-elected, the Republican party will be torn apart. There are many republicans who are only holding their nose and voting for the party establishment this one last time because they feel obligated not to switch horses mid-stream after 9-11. However, with the WH open in 2008 the pressure and abosolute need to deal with this problem will not be held back any longer

Not only what you said but Bushs stance on and strong advocacy for the massive invasion from the South will cause the Republican party to lose decisive seats in the House for sure and possibly even in the ever growing socialist based Senate. This is becoming a divisive and defining issue with each passing day in rural America. More and more traditional tax paying citizens are starting to connect the dots between this issue and their out of control property taxes that is on the verge of driving them into the poor house and jeopardizing their and their children's future.

I too see a coming split of the Republican party caused by the Bush administration and its ineptness, hard headdress and utter stupidity over these kind of socialist stances. He appears to value the support of the neocons, RINO's and Republican socialist's more than he does the base of his own party. The time to elect Bush to a lame duck term is upon us it seems I'm afraid.





170 posted on 10/04/2004 3:17:23 AM PDT by Ron H. (Isn't taxation w/o representation illegal? Why then am I being forced to support illegal aliens?!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

If that ever happened, I think we would get an idea of what happened during the French Revolution!


171 posted on 10/04/2004 3:17:31 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: risk

yep!


172 posted on 10/04/2004 3:17:56 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg; NewRomeTacitus; TigerLikesRooster; American in Israel; CarrotAndStick; swarthyguy; ...
Speaking of the UN and Mexico, they keep siding against us from their temporary position on the UN security council. And check out this working paper on security council reform authored -- by Mexico. I see some good and bad in it.

Japan and India belong on the security council, IMHO. Mexico is a backwater and backward hole in the wall, even if the food is good.

173 posted on 10/04/2004 3:27:48 AM PDT by risk
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To: JackelopeBreeder; gubamyster; NewRomeTacitus
Thanks for the pings everyone. May I make a suggestion?

Why don't you include this site, which chronicles every member of congress' record on immigration - in your ping lists.

I think people are very unaware of the betrayal perpetrated on them by their "representatives".

174 posted on 10/04/2004 3:32:25 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Caroyln McCarthy is in the red zone. As if this would be news to me! :(


175 posted on 10/04/2004 3:34:52 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: raybbr
Great site, but I think the anti-population meme is just as dangerous as the pro-immigration one it tries to counter. If the net effect is growth for Americans (all races, creeds) I'm happy. If not, then who's trying to stifle us? There is no more harmful attack than on our own population.
176 posted on 10/04/2004 3:37:07 AM PDT by risk
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To: PhiKapMom
I understand your anger, but that brush you painted with produced a pretty wide stroke--in my case and in that of many others I know, incorrectly.

You mentioned the Bush family, but many of us supported Bush, Sr. until his liberal policies began to outweigh his conservative policies (and I voted for him in 1992). Many of us unequivocally supported the President until his liberal policies began to outweigh his conservative policies (and I will vote for him in 2004 with held nose).

But to blame the messenger and "never forgive" critics is directing your well-deserved anger at the wrong target. In general, your anger should be directed, not at those who insist upon elected officials governing as presented during campaigns, but precisely at those elected officials who present themselves as one thing and govern as another.

Sorry you will never forgive me, but I really didn't ask for your forgiveness. Some of us think that if any forgiveness is in play, it is from us to those who support a man rather than principal, all the way to destroying the party and the Republic.

You do please me by saying that I'm not the kind of conservative you want to know--I feel the same about you.

177 posted on 10/04/2004 3:42:11 AM PDT by jammer
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To: BlackbirdSST
Jack, please add me to your "official list of fellow anti-Bush freepers". I don't mind at all being outed,

Welcome aboard BlackbirdSST. You'll find that most of us aren't Bush haters but rather law-of-the-land and the Constitution boosters and supporters! We believe in being governed by the 'Rule of Law of the Land' and not the 'Rule of any single Man'. But bring your flame retardent suit when entering here.





178 posted on 10/04/2004 3:45:46 AM PDT by Ron H. (Isn't taxation w/o representation illegal? Why then am I being forced to support illegal aliens?!)
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To: ladyinred
This is an outrage. With all that is at stake in this election, these people are encouraging voters to oust the President? Are they insane? What kind of country do they think they will get with Kerry as President?

The thinking is that by ousting GWB the electorate sends a powerful message that it was pro-border former supporters that cost politicians the election. Then, politicians might actually get the message and be more like Representative Tancredo in viewpoint, and less like Vincente Fox.

179 posted on 10/04/2004 3:48:09 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: jammer

Let's take a little assessment of the War on Terror. Despite rollbacks in defense spending and intelligence gathering abilities during the Clinton administration, our preparedness to fight a war was surley better in 2001 than it was in 1940. Yet three years has passed. When will the Battle of Midway in this war occur? When will D-day happen? Not anytime soon. We're talking about a generational conflict -- again. If we resolved to win this war in six months, it could be done, starting today. Let that be our October Surprise.


180 posted on 10/04/2004 3:48:44 AM PDT by risk
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