Posted on 10/03/2004 9:47:51 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
#201
Do you believe illegal immigration should be one of the principal issues discussed by President Bush and Sen. Kerry?
Yes 89% 3643 votes
No 11% 455 votes
Total: 4098 votes
www.cnn.com/lou
Yes 89% 3643 votes
No 11% 455 votes
Total: 4098 votes
www.cnn.com/lou
This is where WE lose it...Bush knows these numbers more than we do...If he were to go against illegal immigration, he would win with a landslide...It's a major issue with Democrats also...
But for some reason, George is willing to risk the election on this issue...Keeping the borders open is more important to him than winning the election...Could it be the President is not the top dog in our governmental structure???
You think the rats will let those electoral votes get away?? Har Har.
..." Do they think that Kerry would be better on this issue? Odds are he'd be even worse (if that's possible)"...
I remember him saying he would give citizenship to everyone that's been here longer than a year.
In his first 30 days.
I have the sinking feeling we're being manipulated on this issue by both sides. Neither one intends to do anything revolutionary....it might provoke a response. We keep screaming about being sold out. Heh. They've sold us, and already spent the proceeds.
I'm going to go stand in line for bread now. Good news, though....I'll be the first in line.
..."More and more traditional tax paying citizens are starting to connect the dots between this issue and their out of control property taxes that is on the verge of driving them into the poor house and jeopardizing their and their children's future."...
Had this exact conversation this weekend. My property is worth around 250K. The person I was having the conversation with...their property is worth over 500K. Apples and apples comparison, both are condos.
I live in an area with massive overcrowding, all of which is Hispanic and Asian. They voted in 8 new school bonds last time. My "friend" lives in an affluent neighborhood where people plan their lives instead of just letting them happen.
She doesn't remember any new supplemental taxes added this year at her house.
My property tax for six months is now $1600. Hers (which she was complaining about).....is $1800.
I'd rather pay three bucks for a lettuce.
Triple BUMP
That bears repeating.
"He's gone so far to the left as to make the Democrat alternative no longer a scary threat."
"He's gone so far to the left as to make the Democrat alternative no longer a scary threat."
"He's gone so far to the left as to make the Democrat alternative no longer a scary threat."
Well, as we all know, Europeans are the only ones capable of racism. < /sarcasm>
I don't blame you, but I can't vote for the "lesser of two evils."
Both candidates are pursuing policies that are taking us on a collision course. Within fifteen years, this train will have been completely wrecked. Michael Anthony Peroutka, for all his flaws, is the one candidate whose platform opposes these destructive policies, and for that, he will get my vote.
But that's me.
Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.
To say that I do not agree with those goals is to assume the false premise that one must back Bush in order to have such goals in sight.
My belief is that Bush's brand of "conservatism" will discredit the right if it is pushed any further.
Depends what state you live in.
The owner of the forum you are squatting on has stated time and again his goal of seeing President Bush re-elected. Perhaps you should . . . moveon.
GWB is terrible on this issue. Kerry is worst. But I don't think I could keep my sanity for four years of Teresa Heinez Kerry in the White House. Though maybe her globalist behavior will make everyone sick to their stomachs and demand action to stop this march to globalism.
If anyone on this forum is not going to vote for GWB, vote 3rd Party before voting for Kerry. Them rats will spin it and say that you support their policies.
I'm beginning to think a vote for either major candidate is a ticket to the train that's on a collision course with a nice ridge.
We are in agreement, we must lessen the evil whenever possible.
If this hands it to Kerry, then Bush has nobody to blame but himself. It is a bad positions. A very bad position.
"Hold you nose and pull the lever" is getting tiring.
When you get someone in office who ignores their voter base, and does as they please because they are sure the party faithful will stick with them no matter what - then you begin to have big, big problems.
That's another example of "Be careful what you wish for".
If you want to repeatedly send the message that you can ignore the wishes of the people who put you in office, and still get re-elected - then you start down an even more ominous slop than a Kerry victory in 2004.
If the true Republicans have to take one for the team to make sure that their next candidate doesn't take them for granted the next time around, then it is 4 years of sacrifice well spent.
This stuff isn't easy. It would be easy (and cowardly, IMHO), to go pull the lever for someone that you think is running a treasonous immigration policy, because you are towing the party line.
The lemming mentality is the reason things get to where they do. You get taken for granted. You have been taken for granted. You either let it happen, or you reclaim you vote, and let the "bad" guy win. It all depends on how badly you want politics as usual to continue. "The lessor of two evils" is the cowards arguement, IMHO.
I voted for Bush in 2000 (and I don't really care if you believe me or not).
Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me.
I am proud and excited to vote for G W Bush.
His leadership after 9/11 on the war on terror has been excellent. taking out the AQ Khan network, defeating the Taliban
and taking out Saddam Hussein, and capturing or killing most of the Al Qaeda leadership was great. we did the right thing - in Afghanistan, in iraq, in Librya, in the whole GWOT. It was about time we declared war on terrorists!
Not just that, but the transformation of the DoD has been excellent, we have a great leader in Rumsfeld.
Bush's leadership in nominating conservative Judges, defending our values, has been suberb. This include defending the unborn, but goes way beyond it. what a change from Clinton!
His passage of the largest tax cuts in 20 years was Reaganesque ... it was the right tax cuts, at the right time, for the right reason. our economy is now booming thanks to the tax cuts.
It's lunacy to talk of the second best President in my lifetime (after Reagan) as a 'lesser' of anything.
Single-issue immigration lunacy, handing the election over to pro-anmesty democrats, will lead you to electoral and cultural oblivion. It's really simple: Most Republicans, including my own Congressman are on the correct side on immigration (he's Lamar Smith). Him and Tancredo and Saxby Chambliss and a host of others are fighting to reform immigration laws and protect our borders ... and their allies are ALL REPUBLICANS.
... WHO DO YOU THINK THEY ARE VOTING FOR AND SUPPORTING STRONGLY? PRESIDENT BUSH!!
It's not difficult to see: You want immigration laws to get fixed so we stop illegal immigration - vote Republican, and hold them to the fire. You want amnesty? Sit on your hands and let the Democrats win. Anyone who defeats Republicans is defeating our only chance to defend our borders and stop illegal immigration. But this is just one of 20 issues that will get worse if Kerry is elected.
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