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New Fox poll: No bounce for Kerry
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134525,00.html ^

Posted on 10/05/2004 9:44:16 AM PDT by Nascardude

NEW YORK — Even as a clear majority thinks Sen. John Kerry (search) won the first presidential debate, the Democratic challenger and President George W. Bush are still in a sharply divided race for the White House, a FOX News poll released Tuesday shows. While Kerry gained ground in key areas, the president retained his spot as being seen as the stronger leader and the candidate who would do a better job on terrorism. Most voters (79 percent) claim to have seen or heard at least part of Thursday night's presidential debate and by more than four-to-one, debate watchers believe Kerry won (66 percent to 15 percent), with 15 percent saying it was a tie. Almost seven in 10 watchers say the debate gave them a better sense of the candidates. In this highly polarized time, did the debate move voters' intentions? Not much. By a thin margin, Bush leads Kerry 48 percent to 45 percent today in a head-to-head matchup among likely voters — within the poll's margin of error. In polling conducted in the week prior to the debate, Bush had a two-point edge. When independent candidate Ralph Nader (search) is included, he receives one percent, Bush 47 percent and Kerry 45 percent. Opinion Dynamics Corporation (search) conducted the national poll of 1,000 likely voters for FOX News on October 3-4. "Likely voters" are defined as respondents who are considered more likely to vote in the November presidential election. President Bush continues to receive stronger support among self-identified Republicans than Kerry receives among Democrats. Since early September, more than 90 percent of Republicans say they are backing Bush, while in comparison Kerry receives the support of just over 80 percent of Democrats. Bush currently has the lead among independents (50 percent to 39 percent),

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KEYWORDS: 2004; firstdebate; polls
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1 posted on 10/05/2004 9:44:16 AM PDT by Nascardude
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To: Nascardude

Too many polls. They are cancelling each other out. Meanwhile, the media spin goes on fast forward. Kerry winning, Bush losing. Democrats good, Republicans bad.

We must destroy the MSM.


2 posted on 10/05/2004 9:47:32 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: sarasotarepublican

The MSM is destroying itself.


3 posted on 10/05/2004 9:48:20 AM PDT by txjeep
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To: Nascardude

Sunday polling so push Bush up about 2% and drop Kerry 2%.


4 posted on 10/05/2004 9:48:54 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: sarasotarepublican

"Too many polls. They are cancelling each other out."

Most of the polling news that's come out this week is very good for President Bush...


5 posted on 10/05/2004 9:49:12 AM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: sarasotarepublican

They are destroying themselves.
Stand back and take pictures.


6 posted on 10/05/2004 9:49:36 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: Nascardude

Thanks for the info. Just what I thought, NO KERRY BOUNCE!!!!!!!!! Check out ABC/Post, Zogby and Pew polls. All polled after the debates.


7 posted on 10/05/2004 9:50:19 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: sarasotarepublican

bttt


8 posted on 10/05/2004 9:50:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: Nascardude

The internals are much better for Bush than they are for Kerry. The internals suggest Kerry has hit his absolute ceiling, and that it's between 47-49 percent.


9 posted on 10/05/2004 9:51:01 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Nascardude
"By a thin margin, Bush leads Kerry 48 percent to 45 percent today in a head-to-head matchup among likely voters — within the poll's margin of error. In polling conducted in the week prior to the debate, Bush had a two-point edge. When independent candidate Ralph Nader is included, he receives one percent, Bush 47 percent and Kerry 45 percent."

Opinion Dynamics Corporation (search) conducted the national poll of 1,000 likely voters for FOX News on October 3-4. "Likely voters" are defined as respondents who are considered more likely to vote in the November presidential election.

So after that inaccurate October 2 Saturday polling is dropped out of the mix, we're right back where we started.

If I didn't know better (!) I'd think everyone in the MSM was just trying to sell newsprint..

10 posted on 10/05/2004 9:51:32 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Area51

"Kerry bests Bush by six points on handling the economy now, up from a one-point edge in late September, and by 16 points on health care, an improvement of four points."

This is interesting since the debate was on foreign policy. Kerry made a couple of jabs about "tax cuts for the rich" so maybe that had something to do with it.


11 posted on 10/05/2004 9:51:37 AM PDT by txjeep
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To: Patrick1

"Sunday polling so push Bush up about 2% and drop Kerry 2%."

Probably even more than that. Sunday polls exclude most churchgoing people, so the poll should read Kerry only down by 2 percent among secular or non-christian americans.


12 posted on 10/05/2004 9:51:45 AM PDT by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: Sooth2222

48-45 is good news... we are in deep psychological warfare


13 posted on 10/05/2004 9:52:08 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: JCEccles

This will increase the RCP daily margin as well and cancell out that skewed newsweak poll.


14 posted on 10/05/2004 9:52:40 AM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Nascardude

15 posted on 10/05/2004 9:53:54 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: sarasotarepublican
Not that we would ever harm anyone but... We must destroy the MSM.

By pointing out their lies again and again until they are proved to mainstream news consumers to be with out a doubt unbelievable sniveling liars. If Kerry wins, the media has won. Kerry + Media spin = 15 points

16 posted on 10/05/2004 9:54:13 AM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: sarasotarepublican

No, they aren't cancelling each other out. Read them closely, throwing out Newsweak, and you will see that Bush has solidified a 3-6% lead; but, more important, has pretty much sealed up 300 EVs. He's very close to putting this away in the electoral college, regardless of what the MSM says.


17 posted on 10/05/2004 9:54:46 AM PDT by LS
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To: Nascardude

Found this section in the article most interesting:

"In this highly polarized time, did the debate move voters' intentions? Not much. By a thin margin, Bush leads Kerry 48 percent to 45 percent today in a head-to-head matchup among likely voters — within the poll's margin of error. In polling conducted in the week prior to the debate, Bush had a two-point edge."

So, Bush actually increased his lead by 1 point - from 2 points before the debate to 3 points after the debate.


18 posted on 10/05/2004 9:54:50 AM PDT by rwilliam
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To: ConservativeMan55
bttt

What does this mean? Thanks in advance.

19 posted on 10/05/2004 9:55:33 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: sarasotarepublican
We must destroy the MSM.

LOL...We just need to stay out of their way. Their doing a great job all by themselves!

20 posted on 10/05/2004 9:57:01 AM PDT by pgkdan (Monthly donor and Swift Vet donor and proud to say so!)
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