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When Did John Kerry Run the Boston Marathon?
Football Fans for Truth ^ | October 4, 2004 | Football Fans for Truth

Posted on 10/05/2004 11:40:40 AM PDT by americaprd

Recently, Football Fans for Truth learned that John Kerry claimed a significant achievement: qualifying and running the Boston Marathon.

In an ESPN interview, he said, "I ran a marathon back in '80, something like that. Did the Boston Marathon."

An ESPN analysis of his athletic achievements mentions that "[he] ran the Boston Marathon in the 1970s".

In its November 2004 issue, Runner's World observes that John Kerry "[ran] the Boston Marathon in the '70s".

In April 2002, John Kerry was the starter for the Boston Marathon. The Daily Free Press reports that Senator Kerry "lamented the fact that time constraints had made it impossible for him to run in the Marathon, which he participated in 20 years ago."

In a conversation with a Iowa state senator, John Kerry said, "I remember my first Boston Marathon ... it's a great run."

In a later article, ESPN tried to nail down the exact date and reported that "there's no official record of his feat, and his campaign did not provide further details despite repeated inquiries." The November issue of Runner's World reports that "he doesn't recall his time, and no official record exists".

While we hold that John Kerry is not fit to be sports-fan-in-chief, Football Fans for Truth will alert their many readers to John Kerry's Boston Marathon run as evidence of our dedication to honesty and openness. But we're not sure exactly when this event occurred. Did he run it twice, once in the 70s and once in 1980, or once in 1980 and once in 1982? When did he qualify for the marathon?

We aren't too surprised that John Kerry doesn't remember his time. After all, he can't remember the name of an historic football stadium or current baseball players, so how can we expect him to remember an event that happened 20....no, 22...no, 24 or 25, maybe?...years ago?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bostonmarathon; campaign; fabrication; kerry; kerrylies; lies; lurchfantasies; marathon
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
>>>Do the American people really want a psychotic as commander in chief? Well, we came darned close the last time around.<<<

Good Point


61 posted on 10/05/2004 12:06:18 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Member of the PajamaNati for 1/6th of a year)
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To: americaprd

I think I remember this event. Remember when the guy cheated and jumped in at the end of the race? That HAD to be Kerry!!


62 posted on 10/05/2004 12:06:38 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: americaprd

bump fpr later


63 posted on 10/05/2004 12:06:50 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: bunky

Hey did you know he served in Vietnam and was under enemy fire on several occasions?. How dare you question his athletic running record. I mean a hero and such is beyond reproach. (sarcasm off).


64 posted on 10/05/2004 12:08:10 PM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: bunky
I ran the Boston Marathon in 1980 and my time was 2:51 minutes. Everyone that runs knows their exact time and the year they run.

Yeah, and you have a photograph of yourself at the finish line with the time. No one runs the Boston Marathon without a photograph of themselves performing the feat, much less a politician from MA who re-enacted in 8 mm his Vietnam derring do.

65 posted on 10/05/2004 12:08:13 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: mountaineer
Having run Boston 4 times myself, Kerry is not entitled to claim he "Did" the Boston marathon even if he was a bandit. Maybe he got in on an exemption one year but there is no evidence of that. I do not know when the Boston Athletic Association went to qualifying time standards, but the only instance in recent history when there were not standards was in 1996, for the 100th edition, when they had a "non-qualified" division. Time standards actually used to be a little tougher years ago. You still need to be in a near-elite class to qualify.

If you've only run one or two you'd know right off the top of your head the year and time. On the other hand, I've run so many and did so many other athletic events I need minute to go back thru my memory and reconstruct which years I ran and what my times were. But that is easily done. My best guess, Kerry is exaggerating (surprise), he's never officially run the Boston Marathon.
66 posted on 10/05/2004 12:08:21 PM PDT by ironman
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To: americaprd
BINGO BOYS AND GIRLS!! Playing Sports The Right Way By Jeff Merron Page 2 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=merron/040830

The Marathoner in Chief

Though injuries have reduced his running during his presidency, Bush has a treadmill on Air Force One and goes for hour-long jaunts on it in the air during overseas trips. In January, 1993, he finished the Houston Marathon in 3:44:52 (that's about an 8:30 pace); he's the only president ever to complete that distance. (Kerry claims to have run in, and finished, the Boston Marathon "in '80, something like that" -- but there's no official record of his feat, and his campaign did not provide further details despite repeated inquiries.)

67 posted on 10/05/2004 12:10:11 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: HawaiianGecko

New Balance 1023s (too expensive but a good ride). I've been running for only a year and despite all my pronouncements before I took it up, I've become hooked on all the details. Bottom line with a personality like Kerry's, we--unfortunately--would have heard about it ad nauseam. By the way, Edwards is on the cover of Runner's World. The cover and article were quickly torn out and tossed in the garbage.


68 posted on 10/05/2004 12:10:29 PM PDT by macamadamia
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To: HawaiianGecko

The qualifying standards go by 5 year age groups, male and female, and have been changed a bit over the years.


69 posted on 10/05/2004 12:10:42 PM PDT by ironman
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To: Casaubon

You know who was in front and behind you when you hit the wall, you know how many people watched you after you looked around for a quiet place to puke. You know how much you appreciated your wife (in my case) or whoever it was that was your non-running partner for the event. Most of us just don't climb in our cars and drive away.
Of course I'm sure Kerry immediately climbed aboard his plane for a quick trip to Australia to perform in the America's Cup.


70 posted on 10/05/2004 12:11:01 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Member of the PajamaNati for 1/6th of a year)
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To: AmericanMade1776
ESPN on Kerry

At Yale, Kerry became a stunt flyer, a pursuit he continued until recently. He learned aeronautics in the Navy, and is licensed to fly commercial aircraft, gliders and seaplanes. The last might have come in handy when he tried to fly under the Golden Gate Bridge.

He turned away from that challenge, he told the Washington Post in 1985.

"I could have continued under, I guess, but I opted out," he said. There've been other thrilling pursuits -- the Democratic candidate is a snowboarder, a windsurfer, and a kite-sailor. There are endurance sports: He ran the Boston Marathon in the 1970s; and last August, he finished the 110-mile Pan-Massachusetts Challenge, a bicycle race, in 6 1/2 hours. That put him in 32nd place in the field of 3,700 riders.

71 posted on 10/05/2004 12:12:04 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: rabidralph

YOU are SO RIGHT!
First, you remember what year it was, then what time you did each one in, then you have a medal that you get for finishing.That medal is not in a drawer, or hidden away.
I've ran 6 marathons 9 San Diego 85, Marine Corps 92, Big Sur 93, 94, 95, 97, and getting ready for Marine Corps
(Oct 31). I can recall the times in each one(over 4 hours)


72 posted on 10/05/2004 12:12:27 PM PDT by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: ironman

He is quoted, "I remember my FIRST Boston Marathon." Obviously implying he ran more than one.


73 posted on 10/05/2004 12:12:36 PM PDT by Drawsing (It is not honorable to seek one's own honor.....Proverbs.)
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To: americaprd

2004 top 100 men finishers
Here are the top men finishers in the 2004 Boston Marathon.

Place Name Age Home Time
1 Timothy Cherigat 27 Kenya 2:10:37
2 Robert Cheboror 25 Kenya 2:11:49
3 Martin Lel 25 Kenya 2:13:38
4 Stephen Kiogora 29 Kenya 2:14:34
5 Hailu Negussie 24 Ethiopia 2:17:30
6 Benjamin Kosgei Kimutai 33 Kenya 2:17:45
7 Joshua Kipkemboi 45 Kenya 2:18:23
8 Andrew Letherby 30 Australia 2:19:31
9 Fedor V. Ryzhov 44 Russian Federation 2:21:24
10 Elly Rono 33 Kenya 2:22:45
11 Alexander S. Prokopchuk 36 Latvia 2:23:48
12 Wilson Komen 26 Kenya 2:24:06
13 Christopher Zieman 32 Felton, CA 2:25:45
14 Salvatore Bettiol 42 Italy 2:26:15
15 Kentarou Suzuki 26 Japan 2:27:15
16 Dawit Trfe 19 Ethiopia 2:27:54
17 Eric M. Post 25 Fairfax, VA 2:29:13
18 Mario Fattore 28 Italy 2:29:17
19 Michael R. Wardian 30 Arlington, VA 2:29:57
20 John Mentzer 27 Newport, RI 2:30:50
21 Laban Kipkemboi 26 Kenya 2:31:17
22 Eddie Ernest-Jones 27 Great Britain 2:31:53
23 John A. Mirth 41 Platteville, WI 2:32:32
24 Henry Wanyoike 29 Kenya 2:33:20
25 Hiroaki Takeda 29 Japan 2:33:22
26 Ryan C. Linden 22 Rochester Hills, MI 2:33:32
27 Brian E. Spangenberg 40 Canyon Country, CA 2:33:57
28 Minoru Isono 30 Japan 2:34:07
29 Jason L. Saitta 26 Parker, CO 2:34:14
30 Jesse J. Williams 26 Reston, VA 2:34:38
31 Peter Heimgartner 35 Australia 2:35:16
32 Eric G. Beauchesne 34 Chelmsford, MA 2:35:39
33 John Sillery 32 Athens, OH 2:37:24
34 Andy Hass 25 Belleville, MI 2:38:24
35 Motofumi Hikihashi 27 Japan 2:38:37
36 Bob L. Dickie 29 Kailua, HI 2:39:12
37 Ken J. Pliska 38 Littleton, MA 2:39:16
38 Chris J. Farley 28 Arlington, VA 2:39:27
39 Matthew Dobson 34 Jay, FL 2:39:29
40 Tyler Q. Kirk 23 Charlottesville, VA 2:39:30
41 Philippe B. Rolly 31 France 2:39:39
42 Joshua L. Sohn 22 Cambridge, MA 2:39:41
43 Wesley W. Holman 27 Casper, WY 2:39:44
44 Tony Banovich 41 Billings, MT 2:39:56
45 Atsuhiro Watanabe 21 Japan 2:40:00
46 Daniel B. Warren 33 Findlay, OH 2:40:00
47 Craig N. Morrell 32 Canada 2:40:15
48 Brian P. Mulry 24 White River Junction, VT 2:41:07
49 Matt J. Karatkewicz 23 Middlefield, CT 2:41:15
50 Michael J. Dehring 33 Cincinnati, OH 2:41:21
51 John N. Friedman 23 Cambridge, MA 2:41:39
52 James R. Gallagher 27 Seattle, WA 2:41:44
53 Kevin N. Kaspzyk 33 Rochester, MI 2:42:01
54 Peter Forster 31 Switzerland 2:42:06
55 Bryan R. Kovalsky 25 Ridgefield, CT 2:42:11
56 Lowell Ladd 28 Boston, MA 2:42:15
57 Jonathan Clemens 30 San Diego, CA 2:42:18
58 Daniel Mc Cue 27 Boston, MA 2:42:21
59 Ian A. Nurse 26 Great Britain 2:42:42
60 Joel E. Mc Creary 26 Glendale, AZ 2:42:55
61 Chuck Engle 33 Clinton, MS 2:43:05
62 Eric J. Lavigne 27 Ashburn, VA 2:43:08
63 Todd R. White 39 Huntsville, AL 2:43:10
64 Vincenzo Trentadue 23 Italy 2:43:19
65 Matt Gerard 32 Kalamazoo, MI 2:43:31
66 Alexander G. Hetherington 36 Stafford, VA 2:43:38
67 Mark S. Reeder 44 Brighton, MA 2:43:46
68 Ryan M. Donahue 25 Centreville, VA 2:43:52
69 Derek Decicco 24 Long Beach, CA 2:43:58
70 J. Anthony Skuce 40 Canada 2:44:11
71 Michael J. Mc Grane 34 Rockport, MA 2:44:13
72 Timothy E. Fahey 30 Corpus Christi, TX 2:44:21
73 Mac Allen 46 Austin, TX 2:44:22
74 Mark T. Cucuzzella 37 Denver, CO 2:44:35
75 Leonard Vergunst 48 Ocean Springs, MS 2:44:37
76 James Harper 26 Atlanta, GA 2:44:40
77 Conrad F. Orloff 34 Columbia, MD 2:44:48
78 Jeff R. Watson 22 Chicago, IL 2:44:54
79 Andrew E. Bartle 27 San Diego, CA 2:44:56
80 Ryan J. La Fleur 30 Boston, MA 2:45:10
81 Johnny Loria 29 Costa Rica 2:45:41
82 Gregory C. Mullins 29 Randolph, NJ 2:45:41
83 Ted M. Leblow 35 Fort Leavenworth, KS 2:45:57
84 Keiron M. Tumbleton 38 Hopkinton, MA 2:46:09
85 Laurent R. Julien 36 France 2:46:15
86 Jonathan M. Feddock 23 Lexington, KY 2:46:19
87 Greg M. Ward 32 Holden, MA 2:46:19
88 Todd T. Marohl 36 Green Bay, WI 2:46:20
89 Paul Hammond 44 Lexington, MA 2:46:21
90 Peter Allen 43 Morristown, NJ 2:46:33
91 Kevin P. Grasmick 33 Alexandria, VA 2:46:54
92 Paul T. Hughes 38 Ireland 2:47:02
93 Todd R. Forsgren 23 Brunswick, ME 2:47:14
94 Eben J. Robinson 31 West Hartford, CT 2:47:19"
95 Ronald A. Jillard 21 Chapel Hill, NC 2:47:35
96 George P. Luke 38 Clinton, CT 2:47:38
97 Tony Tochtrop 40 Northglenn, CO 2:47:42
98 Jeffrey A. Schrock 28 Columbus, OH 2:47:46
99 David Harkin 34 Tualatin, OR 2:47:48
100 Thomas J. Neupauer 42 Mill Valley, CA 2:47:49


74 posted on 10/05/2004 12:13:39 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: conservativecorner
which he participated in 20 years ago

Participated, how? Was he a volunteer handing out water?

75 posted on 10/05/2004 12:13:43 PM PDT by rabidralph (All in all, gas is still cheaper than a cup of coffee at Starbucks.)
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To: VadeRetro
I just ran my second Boston Marathon this April and I know that Kerry never ran a marathon in his life. I have run 6 marathons and I remember vividly my time for each one. When I saw the article in Runner's World, I thought immediately that it was a big fat lie.

You will note that the other candidates, Bush and Edwards, show which marathon they have run and the exact times for each. As an aside, although I can't stand Edwards, his marathon times are pretty impressive.

Also, the qualifying times back in the seventies were under 3 hours. There is no way that a sub-3 hour marathoner would not remember running Boston for the first time. What a maroon!!

76 posted on 10/05/2004 12:13:51 PM PDT by DelmarvaMike (May God watch over our troops and our President)
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To: Plutarch
Yeah, and you have a photograph of yourself at the finish line with the time.

Yeah!! (OK, it wasn't Boston and there's no time.)

77 posted on 10/05/2004 12:15:18 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: ironman
My best guess, Kerry is exaggerating (surprise), he's never officially run the Boston Marathon.

Of course, you are correct. I strongly suspect that Kerry probably ran two miles of it once as part of some sort of ceremonial/political thing.

Kerry, of course, talks about it as if he finished.

It is a lie as he presents it...but one he could retreat from, claiming that people just misunderstood.

78 posted on 10/05/2004 12:15:36 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Capt. Tom
and last August, he finished the 110-mile Pan-Massachusetts Challenge, a bicycle race, in 6 1/2 hours. That put him in 32nd place in the field of 3,700 riders.

Just from his past history of padding his record and casual dishonesty, I would not be surprised if he somehow cheated in this bicycle race.....was he seen at all the checkpoints?

79 posted on 10/05/2004 12:16:11 PM PDT by Drawsing (It is not honorable to seek one's own honor.....Proverbs.)
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To: rabidralph
Any runner who ever ran a marathon would know the exact year of the marathon they ran in and not give some vague timeframe...

California International Marathon, December 2, 2001. Finished in the top 3,000 (LOL!!!). Hey, I was 54 years old and still running at the end. Believe me, not only do I remember the day, the year, and the location, I remember every step those last 3 or 4 miles!

80 posted on 10/05/2004 12:17:09 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (Kerry - In your guts you know he's nuts!!)
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