Posted on 10/05/2004 12:54:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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wait a minute... I just DID!
Isn't Kerry Italian ? NO wait he's Irish, No wait he's Jewish, No wait he's French.
Oh goodness I can't keep it straight. HELP!
x, for what it's worth, I have somewhere in the files a Taft speech from approx. 1910/12 to an Irish audience in which he tells them that the Irish are the least troublesome of immigrants.
I suppose this comes of the labor agitation of the period, which was perceived to have been caused by eastern Europeans. Anarchists and socialists did not generally have Irish names. I don't think a national politician of the 1850s would have said any such thing.
The stereotypes were well set, however. See this from Taft's ADC's diary, about a banquet at the Waldorf for the Sixty-Ninth (Irish) Regiment: "...made up of Irish Catholics and a husky looking lot of paddies there were too. But I felt that they could fight when called upon. They had certainly been feasting well before we got there for it was difficult that the President could speak he was so often interrupted by hilarious but good natured yells from enthusiastic irishmen."
And this, from a banquet of the "Republican Hungarian Club," the ADC noted, "before sitting down I presented over four hundred of them. Imagine presenting four hundred Austro Hungarians by name! No wonder I slept until eleven the next day."
Chong, more apropos.
I was referring to the Irish of the 1840s and 1850s.
Not in Philadelphia. We know very clearly where the Irish are supposed to go, where the Italians are supposed to go, where the Germans are supposed to go, and where the Poles are supposed to go. Everyone has their own neighborhoods and State Representatives and Parishes still. We do all get along fine though.
Yes, I know. I was referring to how things stood sixty years later.
I'm so glad we faced off against Washboard and not Santana today.
According to my relatives who live in Chester County, much of Philly remains stuck in a time warp. They mean it as a compliment, btw.
That's why I'm here!
Its still the same town I grew up in in the late 70's and early 80's (even if Wanamakers has gone under).
And the low-live Irish became democrats --- some the worst kind of democrats there are. My grandfather was of Irish descent and he said many of those who settled around Boston weren't worth much.
I think so too --- and I'd judge Boston by how liberal or conservative it is --- has the new group brought in good Conservative values or is it still liberal?
Told to me at CPAC by someone to the right of Bush: "The Italians are coming." He meant coming to the conservative persuasion.
They just announced it's Brown for Game 3, not El Duque.
Santana was beatable yesterday (he gave up 9 hits), but the Yanks just couldn't get it done it the clutch.
How about relying on Lieber to pull us out of this jam? It ain't pretty.
I heard it's not a sure thing that he's out for the ALDS. He could go in Game 4. I just happened to hear it reported as breaking news and thought I'd pass it along. Radke has been good, but those same hits should turn to runs tonight.
Is it asking too much for a NL playoffs without a tomahawk chop? It's been a long time. Gotta give Bobby Cox his props -- that old amazing pitching staff has been decimated and they still post the lowest staff ERA in baseball. .....and make the playoffs yet again.
Losing Sheff and Lopez were big losses.
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