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To: Askel5
I think this all may be part of the "moral imperative" to undo the damage done by (a) reducing infant mortality, (b) eradicating disease and (c) prolonging human life.
Whew - this has NWO conspiracy theory via a 'clandestinely implemented' population control plan -

- I know I'm reading you right on that point, after having persued the thread linking GHWB to same.

I don't, however, think that is anyway near being true, or ever becoming true, or ever having an ounce of a chance of coming to fruition.

Today, via vastly improved technology over that utilized in the 1970's, we are able to be *far* more efficient; whether the field is farming, auto-manufacturing or medicine, we are far more productive per man than that which existed in 1970.

The entire premise, therefore, of that 'house hearing' in 1970 is moot ...

16 posted on 10/07/2004 6:40:02 PM PDT by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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Whew - this has NWO conspiracy theory via a 'clandestinely implemented' population control plan -

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Whew - this has NWO conspiracy theory via a 'clandestinely implemented' population control plan written all over it -

17 posted on 10/07/2004 6:41:40 PM PDT by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim

=== I don't, however, think that is anyway near being true, or ever becoming true, or ever having an ounce of a chance of coming to fruition.


Yeah, well ... I figure there are over 40 million dead infants who'd say otherwise. The fact we've got to draft in an official underclass from down south like we're decaying Rome or something also gives me pause.

As for "efficiency" ... I'm sure one reason the "pricing structures" which so concerned the GOP back in 1970 have stayed relatively the same is because our Efficiency is such now that the big money's made selling parts for scrap out the backdoor of abortuaries. PBA's never going to be illegal primarily for the fact it affords us prime specimens of Longpig for the lab.

Just as the GOP-divined "right" to predetermine the sex and Genetic Quality, etc. of one's children afford Interested Parties plenty of prime Excess Manufacture embryos from which to confect all manner of "humanitarian" assists for the official Persons of the planet.

I guess I'm rather simpleminded and still hearken to the "self-evident" truths of our Declaration that all men are created equal.

As for "connecting" it to H. Bush ... not my call. I know I get a lot of guff on the forum for "hating" the Bush family. I can't help the fact that anyone like me who seeks to understand how it came to be our government would usurp the will of the Creator and seek to control human reproduction butts heads repeatedly with the Bush family and their friends among the eugenicists and pro-aborts of this land.

I really couldn't care less about the surnames of the Players ... what concerns me is the dehumanization. It's not only the killing, _Jim, it's the effect the killing and the rationalizations and the accepting of mindbending Orwellian terms like "Living Will" have not only on a people at large but on individual souls lost or deformed for eternity.

The only things I can say for sure is "moot" at present are the NIH's guidelines against which I was harping in earnest back in January of 2000. There's no longer any need for special approval of their "human experimentation" projects because Bush's decision on ESCR opened a whole new window of Non-Personhood (that crypto plan's memorialized in the Congressional Register, btw) and the use of "human" is no longer necessary for purposes of obtaining consent or inviting special scrutiny.

Like guys who jack off to porn at fertility clinics or college women interested in donating their eggs for a small profit really care to give "parental consent."

You see ... all this changes a people, person by person.

Anyway ... I really do appreciate the info. Nice to know how the noose gets tightened on the "Living" they manage like so much livestock despite all the rhetoric about our "rights" to live like animals and die with all the dignity of a dog at the pound when we please.

Trust all is well with you and yours.


18 posted on 10/07/2004 7:24:54 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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