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If at First You Don't Succeed . . . Why Bush did better in the second debate.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/9/04 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 10/09/2004 9:23:13 AM PDT by MarlboroRed

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To: MarlboroRed

GOT Wood?

41 posted on 10/09/2004 10:44:55 AM PDT by goodnesswins (PRAVDA Means "Truth" in Russian...kinda like NY TIMES Means "News" in English.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

I clicked off when Hillary showed up. It might have seemed a "coup" for Fox, but her very face alienates viewers.


42 posted on 10/09/2004 10:48:38 AM PDT by The Doctor
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To: bushsupporter30

That's like saying the Yankees lost the first game to the Twins to lull them into a false sense of security. Had the President done two weeks ago, what he did last night, Hillary would be starting her 2008 campaign with McCauliffe as her manager.


43 posted on 10/09/2004 11:05:41 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: zzen01

Gee Fred is that why you last night on Fox News called the debate a "TIE"!?

Exactly! I went to bed not believing my ears! I figured if Fox didn't see that Bush had won, we were done for....What was it those guys wanted to see??? Kerry on his hands and knees begging to be let go?
Sheeesh


44 posted on 10/09/2004 11:11:22 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: MarlboroRed

Will they be sitting at a table?


45 posted on 10/09/2004 11:46:17 AM PDT by Clump
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To: MarlboroRed
.... polls in 2000 led Bush to believe he had victory in hand during the last week. This time, he plans to ignore the polls, whatever they say, and continue on the attack.

The Bush campaign needs to stay on the attack and better yet, they need to step up the attacks on Kerry. You know the Kerry campaign won't let up. In the final debate, the President needs to challenge Kerry more on his 20 year Senate voting record and press Kerry on his frequent flip-flopping.

46 posted on 10/09/2004 12:03:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: MarlboroRed
The President should read this before the next debate:


47 posted on 10/09/2004 12:17:32 PM PDT by JHL
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To: MarlboroRed

I only wish Michael Peroutka could be in on these debates,or in The Weekly Standard,or on Fox News. He would have much to say. http://www.constitutionparty.com


48 posted on 10/09/2004 1:36:43 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: The Doctor

Me too, I could not bear to be insulted by that woman's shrill meaningless comments. Yet the American people seem to warm to her. Why?


49 posted on 10/09/2004 1:58:04 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: zzen01

(Gee Fred is that why you last night on Fox News called the debate a "TIE"!?)

Freds usually a pretty good writer and a solid conservative but nobody gets it right 100% of the time I think I'll cut him some slack.


50 posted on 10/09/2004 4:29:18 PM PDT by edchambers (Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
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To: Freeper 007
(Don't forget the surprise DUI hit-job the press did on Bush days before the election.)

Don't be too surprised when it doesn't work.They tried this crap with Schwartzenegger during the CA recall.He was prepared for it and it blew up in their face.After the CBS fiasco any last minute gotcha coming from an obviously biased press will do nothing but further undermine their credibility.
51 posted on 10/09/2004 4:47:57 PM PDT by edchambers (Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
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To: MarlboroRed
He and the campaign must act as if he's on the verge of losing through Nov 1st unless there is a pressing crisis.

Only an idiot (KARL ROVE) would "coast" to victory like the attempt in 2000. It's that sort of belief that an election is 'over' that causes the infamous Gallop snafu in the earliest days of polling (stopped polling too early). And, remember, only Zogby polled up to the last second in 2000 and thereby gave us an *accurate* picture of the closeness of the final race.

52 posted on 10/10/2004 1:56:40 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Why are we in Iraq? Just point the whiners here: http://www.massgraves.info)
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To: lasereye
Kerry also tried to connect himself to the 90's budget surpluses, as though he did something to create them.

He DID! Surely he voted FOR Clinton's MASSIVE tax INCREASE.

53 posted on 10/10/2004 2:18:06 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Why are we in Iraq? Just point the whiners here: http://www.massgraves.info)
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To: zzen01
Gee Fred is that why you last night on Fox News called the debate a "TIE"!?

Last night on "The Beltway Boys", Fred reconsidered his earlier evaluation and decided that the debate was a Bush win. As he is usually right on analysis more than 95% of the time, I'll cut him some slack on this one.

54 posted on 10/10/2004 2:23:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: wequalswinner
He just can't do a tit for tat and have that be an effective rebuttal.

That's what Kerry does. He doesn't let anything go unanswered. It's about eroding Kerry's credibility. A more skillful debater could do that very easily. I think these debates have boosted Kerry's credibility at Bush's expense. I think that the dynamics have shifted to Kerry's favor. I think credibility is what the race is coming down to.

55 posted on 10/10/2004 6:54:16 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: voteconstitutionparty

Rules clearly state that you must be pulling in 15% in major polls to be included.

Peroutka isn't pulling in 0.015%


56 posted on 10/10/2004 7:07:25 PM PDT by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: MarlboroRed

Bush very cleverly in the first debate set skerry up...down here in Texas we call it 'rope a dope.' President Bush is an outstanding POKER PLAYER. ;o)


57 posted on 10/10/2004 7:09:46 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: MarlboroRed
IMHO, it is ludicrous to judge either candidate as being worthy of leading us for the next four years by his performance in 3 debates that total a whopping 4.5 hours? Let's assume that one of them ate at a fast food restaurant that day and had a serious desire to just 'go'? Let's assume that one of them had the flu and was not as perky as Katy Couric? Does that disqualify them? I think not?

Would it not be better to judge the candidate on his performance for the last say 20 years, rather than the last 4.5 hours, to determine whether he is the one who we want to lead us???????

But then again, that doesn't sell too much TV time then, does it? And the 'know-alls' won't get their 5 minutes of fame? Geez............

58 posted on 10/10/2004 7:23:12 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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