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Muralist offended by 'nasty' criticism of Livermore piece (11 misspellings!)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/9/04 | Leslie Fulbright

Posted on 10/09/2004 10:30:13 AM PDT by MikalM

The artist who created the now-infamous Livermore library mosaic that contains 11 misspellings says she no longer wants to fix it because of the "nasty messages from people who don't understand art."

Maria Alquilar, who complained that her name, too, was often misspelled, said she had been overwhelmed by dozens of phone calls and more than 1,000 e- mails since her errors -- from "Eistein" to "Shakespere" to "Michaelangelo" -- were widely publicized.

Fed up, Alquilar said Friday that she was reconsidering her decision to correct her work because the people of Livermore had been so mean.

"If I come out, there will probably be a demonstration," she said. "There is so much anger. I am so upset, I can't even think straight."

Alquilar will wait for the issue to die down before she makes a firm decision, but she said she would prefer that the city just tear up the piece, which measures 16 feet in diameter and includes 175 historical names and cultural words.

"I will consent if the city wants to pay to have it removed," she said.

City officials, who paid $40,000 for the mosaic, said they hoped Alquilar would correct the mistakes but had not received an answer.

"She indicated that she is not sure if she wants to come back," said Assistant City Manager Jim Piper. "We will get her final decision next week."

The city has not decided what to do if Alquilar, who lives in Miami, refuses to return, but officials are evaluating their options....

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1 posted on 10/09/2004 10:30:13 AM PDT by MikalM
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To: MikalM

Typical LOONY LEFT LIBERAL. Cannot take CRITICIZISM that they so easily spread about on CONSERVATIVES.


2 posted on 10/09/2004 10:32:36 AM PDT by TheEnigma47 (kerry will NEVER deserve forgiveness for his treachery to America's Military)
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To: MikalM
"I will consent if the city wants to pay to have it removed," she said.

Go for it!

3 posted on 10/09/2004 10:33:04 AM PDT by It's me
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To: MikalM

Awww, poor little stupid "artist".

"Nasty messages from people who don't understand art."

I am so glad I do not "understand" "art". I do appreciate good spelling , though.


4 posted on 10/09/2004 10:35:50 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MikalM

I'm sure she would have been upset if they made out her check for $400.00 insteand of $40,000.

What a moron. The work would be removed at her cost.


5 posted on 10/09/2004 10:36:23 AM PDT by ArmedNReady (George Bush has Global Test-icles)
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To: MikalM

A few years ago I didn't know what a lefty artist was now I is one.


6 posted on 10/09/2004 10:37:36 AM PDT by FatLoser
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To: MikalM
I found this online. I think it's the new Livermore Library where the mural was installed. What do you want to bet that 99% of their taxpayer money went for this schlocky architecture, computers, handicap bathrooms, show-and-tell rooms, and so forth, and maybe 1% for books?


7 posted on 10/09/2004 10:38:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MikalM
"If I come out, there will probably be a demonstration," she said.

Gosh, I hope she finds someone who can spell for the signs.

8 posted on 10/09/2004 10:38:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: MikalM
"... I can't even think straight."

Well, basically, that's the problem.

This mess is a crying shame. I lived in Livermore at the time, and we were all really looking forward to having our tiny old library replaced. We spent a lot of money on the new complex, and you never saw a prettier, more modern library in your life. It's just gorgeous. And then they hired this illiterate yahoo come come along and screw it up.

9 posted on 10/09/2004 10:39:37 AM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: MikalM

Affirmative action in action. Anyone have a picture of this beaut. A picture is usually worth a thosand words.


10 posted on 10/09/2004 10:40:33 AM PDT by BIGZ
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To: MikalM

"no longer wants to fix it because of the "nasty messages from people who don't understand art."

There is nothing wrong with this artists work. She has done some serious work in the past. I agree with her that in the context of her primitive style that the mispellings are not a problem. I don't even think that these are mispellings. It is a 20th century notion that there is a "right" and "wrong" way to spell last names. The feverish attempts to denigrate this woman and her work are childish and ill-informed. Anyone on the city council that is harassing this artist should be replaced at the ballot box. Here's an excerpt from a geneology website -

"Spelling Variations
Background:

In most cases, if you turn back the clock less than a century, you will find at least one, perhaps more examples of a spelling change in a surname.

Many illustrious people frequently spelled their name in various ways including William Shakespeare who spelled his name Shakespeare, Shakespere, Shakespear, Shakspere and Shaxspere. Over the centuries names have changed greatly. "


11 posted on 10/09/2004 10:42:53 AM PDT by orangelobster
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To: MikalM
I can't even think straight."

That explains it.

12 posted on 10/09/2004 10:43:11 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Cicero
That is the new library, and yes, they did put in all that stuff, and just moved the books from the old building. But that's what we wanted. Seriously, except for the retarded decision to hire this fool woman to do a mural that was not only badly executed but extremely ugly, the place is great.
13 posted on 10/09/2004 10:43:21 AM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: TheEnigma47

this woman is pretentious as all get-out.

For someone who claims other people don't understand art, she misspelled the names of other artists for pete's sake!


14 posted on 10/09/2004 10:43:28 AM PDT by mikenola
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To: MikalM

But... But... They're SPELLING ERRORS!

She's really upset that corrections would have to come from _her own_ pocket, probably, which could run in the thousands by themselves for those few things.


15 posted on 10/09/2004 10:43:49 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: MikalM
"Spelling is so... so... RACIST!"
16 posted on 10/09/2004 10:44:19 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: orangelobster
There is nothing wrong with this artists work. She has done some serious work in the past.

You evidently haven't seen this 'piece'. I may not know about art, but I know about crap, and this is it.

I don't even resent the fact that my taxes paid for it as much as I resent it being such an eyesore in front of our wonderful new library.

17 posted on 10/09/2004 10:50:05 AM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: MikalM

Suck it up and correct the mis-spellings. The people will be grateful. This situation comes about because we have schooled a whole generation of kids in the idea that spelling doesn't count. Not true.


18 posted on 10/09/2004 10:52:55 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: BradyLS

Actually, they were going to pay her $6,000 to fix it!


19 posted on 10/09/2004 10:53:25 AM PDT by TheWyzzyrd (Red is grey and yellow white, but we decide which is right.. and which is an illusion. (Moody Blues))
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To: orangelobster
There is nothing wrong with this artists work

If you are serious about your post, you should try hanging out on some other website where Ebonics and taxpayer funded sh***y art is appreciated.

20 posted on 10/09/2004 10:54:53 AM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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To: MikalM

And they wonder why some sensetive artists only accept what is due them if it comes from the National Endowment for the Arts. With NEA money, an artists doesn't have to be good, original or talented, only hate America and be willing to steal taxpayer money.


21 posted on 10/09/2004 10:55:22 AM PDT by Tacis (When Kerry Farts, You Can Hear McAuliffe's Voice And Smell Lockhart's Breath!)
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To: MikalM

Get Tom Wolfe's THE PAINTED WORD.


22 posted on 10/09/2004 10:55:25 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Me, too. Spelling was always one of my favorite subjects in elementary school. I guess I got that from my mother who was one of the best spellers in her school. They had many spelling bees and she was one of the last standing every time.


23 posted on 10/09/2004 10:58:34 AM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: Starve The Beast

Well, it's a great library (I live in Livemore) except for the fact that it's filled with junior high schoolers now playing video games on the dozens of new computers in it. It's more like an arcade than a library.

But I suppose lots of brand new libraries are like that these days. . .


24 posted on 10/09/2004 11:02:16 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: MikalM
Spelling Still Kounts
...It wasn't easy for me to accept the philosophy of "creative spelling," even though I could see the logic in it. Wasn't judging people based on spelling and grammar a very superficial way to evaluate them? I would hate to be judged by my arithmetic skills. What's the big deal if a kid thinks the head of a school is the "principle," or that you write a thank you note on "stationary?" Wasn't it just a leftover kind of snobbishness akin to evaluating somebody's character based on his accent or the way he dressed? Joe DiMaggio dressed and spoke impeccably, but did that make him a better person than the often-unintelligible Yogi Berra? Evidently not. But years of being a spelling bigot made it difficult for me to let go of my prejudices.

I was particularly intolerant of bad spellers when they happened to be my kids' teachers. I often felt as if I should be reading the teacher's report with a red pen in my hand. I understood that some of these teachers grew up in the '80s and went to schools where good spelling was considered as archaic as wearing a tie or a dress to class. I knew that these teachers were wonderful people and great with kids. So, why did it bother me so much if they couldn't spell "recommend" or "judgment?" Because they were teachers!

Apparently, I'm not alone in feeling that spelling still matters. The New York Times recently ran a story about a federal judge denying a lawyer's request for a fee increase largely because of spelling errors the lawyer made. He felt that the lawyer's "complete lack of care in his written product shows disrespect for the court." Among other things, the poor spelling lawyer made a mistake that even members of Generation X, Y, or Z should never make: he spelled the judge's name wrong. So, kids, when you're writing a resume to help you get that summer job, remember — there's only one "m" in Jamba Juice.

Another way that bad spelling can cost people money is through eBay. A recent report revealed that many people who advertise on eBay don't get bidders for their products because of spelling errors. So if no one offers a fair price for a "dimond ring" or a "1985 Buck Riviera," the owner will keep reducing the price until some buyer makes a bid. This group of bad spelling sellers has created another group — people who take advantage of bad-spelling sellers. This predatory group will purposely look for spelling errors, reason that the bids will be low, and then take advantage of those who used "creative spelling."

25 posted on 10/09/2004 11:03:22 AM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: MikalM

And didn't I read the majority liberal council approved more money to fix it instead of suing the artist to correct her mistakes?


26 posted on 10/09/2004 11:05:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: walford

"Hooked on Phonics" it werked for me.


27 posted on 10/09/2004 11:15:35 AM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: orangelobster

but what about "Eistein"?


28 posted on 10/09/2004 11:16:15 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: ThreeYearLurker; Starve The Beast

"If you are serious about your post, you should try hanging out on some other website where Ebonics and taxpayer funded sh***y art is appreciated."

If you are serious about your scatalogical post, you should recognize that personal attacks on apolitical artists is not in the spirit of free expression. I don't think this woman has a political agenda here. I think there are a lot of people here that have a problem with the NEA and the idea of publicly funded art and are using this woman as a scapegoat. I simply think the hysteria is misplaced. If people have a problem with publicly funded art they should take it up with the city council and the NEA directly instead of harassing this woman with e-mail.


29 posted on 10/09/2004 11:17:27 AM PDT by orangelobster
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To: MikalM

i love her logic:
1. she is well-educated and not dyslexic
2. none of us spell very well anymore because of computers.
i think the first statement might be incorrect, and the 2nd statement is a rationalization.


30 posted on 10/09/2004 11:19:50 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: drhogan

"but what about "Eistein"?"

O.K. you may have a point about Eistein. Still, the level of hysteria is bizarre. It's not like the woman is John Kerry in heels.


31 posted on 10/09/2004 11:21:10 AM PDT by orangelobster
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To: TheEnigma47

eye feel wee shud hab kompasun fer tha talunted graduiate ub tha piblik screwl sistem,


32 posted on 10/09/2004 11:22:05 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: orangelobster

"Many illustrious people frequently spelled their name in various ways including William Shakespeare who spelled his name Shakespeare, Shakespere, Shakespear, Shakspere and Shaxspere."

So wright you are. In my own ancestry, in one family the father and his two sons spelt their surname three distict personal ways (Scots-Irish).

Starrat
Starratt
Starritt

My own great-grandfather is the source for my surname. In his lifetime he spelled it three ways (Swedish).

Andreasson
Andersson
Anderson

Reasons for spelling differences abound: Many people couldn't read and write, immigration, change of customs, etc.

No justifiable reason to be hard on this woman, who is apparently a legitimate artiste.


33 posted on 10/09/2004 11:30:02 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: drhogan

"2. none of us spell very well anymore because of computers."

You're assessment maybe correct if you are addressing the students of the "flower power" generation and their children. But for my generation, it was a requirement that you knew how to spell, do arithmetic manually and parse sentences correctly before being advanced to the next grade. Just because Johnny was 16 and still in fifth grade did not cut it. In other words, he was not advanced until he got it right


34 posted on 10/09/2004 11:30:18 AM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: truth_seeker

George Bush obviously has problems with speaking in a grammatically correct way. If you look at a transcript of the debate his words and sentences probably look fractured and don't follow a strict rules.

I'm not voting for him for his strict adherence to grammar rules, but rather the content of his ideas. Kerry speaks in a rigid, grammitically correct way, but his ideas are hollow. Maybe some of the grammar police here should switch sides and vote Kerry.


35 posted on 10/09/2004 11:37:10 AM PDT by orangelobster
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To: NY Attitude

the computer things was the artist's excuse for her bad spelling.
i was paraphrasing what she said.
my impression is that she just isn't very bright, is a bad speller, and doesn't even realize that it is a problem to mispell "Einstein" on a library mural.


36 posted on 10/09/2004 11:38:26 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: drhogan

Understood. Thanks.


37 posted on 10/09/2004 11:39:44 AM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: MikalM
but she said she would prefer that the city just tear up the piece, which ...

What a coincidence!

This is precisely the overwhelming consensus of people who have seen the product of this hack "self-proclaimed" artist who would starve were it not for welfare for delusional wannabe artists.

38 posted on 10/09/2004 11:42:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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To: It's me
"I will consent if the city wants to pay to have it removed," she said.

Not only incompetent, but delusional.

The city needs her permission??

39 posted on 10/09/2004 11:43:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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To: MikalM
I would be fun to post an abbreviated resume of the artist posted nearby. Of course, it should contain such things as party affliation ( Democrat, Republican or other), education (public or private), employment history - oldest first (intern -- ACLU mailroom, bagger -- Safeway) and club affliation (Greenpeace, Sweet Adelines, ... ).

I'm sure she's quite proud of her real-life resume, and would be delighted to have it posted next to her Livermore installation.

40 posted on 10/09/2004 11:44:16 AM PDT by Irish Queen
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To: Publius6961
The city needs her permission??

Believe it or not, there's a law. Once an "artist" is paid to create something for a public building, the "art" cannot be altered without the permission of the "artist."

I don't remember if it's federal or state law.

41 posted on 10/09/2004 11:48:24 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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To: MikalM
This is probably a good advertisement for home-schooling...
(seeing how well home-schoolers have performed in the National spelling bee)
42 posted on 10/09/2004 11:48:47 AM PDT by VOA
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To: orangelobster
I'm not voting for him for his strict adherence to grammar rules, but rather the content of his ideas.

But when you're committing words PERMANENTLY in front of a LIBRARY they should be spelled correctly.

43 posted on 10/09/2004 11:51:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: truth_seeker; orangelobster
These meretricious arguments about the lack of standardization in the spelling of proper names in ancient times are frankly disingenuous. Prior to the eighteenth century there was not even a standardized English spelling of many common words. But we don't live in the nineteenth century. In the last hundred years the spellings of English names, places, and common words has been standardized.

A person of minimal intelligence and professionalism can check the spellings of words in an exhibit to be used in a public display. That is the point of this protest: like many artists, Alquilar is of the opinion that she can turn out crap at the taxpayers' expense, then insult people who question her professionalism. Preposterous excuses about "not understanding art" or "names not having standardized spelling" don't cut it. A seventh grader would be red-marked for misspelling Shakespeare's name, and an artist who claims to be competent to use a computer can run a spelling check.

Fix the mural or have it removed.

44 posted on 10/09/2004 11:51:21 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: FredZarguna

"A seventh grader would be red-marked for misspelling Shakespeare's name, and an artist who claims to be competent to use a computer can run a spelling check."

You've misunderestimated this woman Fred. This whole grammar hysteria is very much like the nonsense I have been hearing from lefties the past four years who keep whining about President Bush's tortured syntax and texasisms while failing to credit him for his substance. I encourage the paragons of grammatical correctness here to vote kerry as he is the candidate of perfectly grammatical sentences with empty hollow ideas.


45 posted on 10/09/2004 11:58:14 AM PDT by orangelobster
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To: orangelobster

"George Bush obviously has problems with speaking in a grammatically correct way."

Fortunate I was exposed to the Texican language in my early adult years. First I worked in the oil patch, and later engineering & construction (oil patch related).

My mother had proper New England roots. She assured me most southerners were dumb and worthless; witness how they talked.

My Dad, however, hailed from Wyoming, compelling me to be openminded, lest I judge my grandmother too harshly.

So when I heard petroleum engineers and geologists talkin texican, I paid attention.

Contrary to my Mother's ideas, these guys had masters degrees in their professional fields, and were a lot of fun to work with and get to know.

So I can understand every word Bush says, and mostly I agree with him, too.

Texican is real American talk.


46 posted on 10/09/2004 12:00:09 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: orangelobster
The "harassment" directed toward this artist is not because of ideology (as some charge) but rather because she failed to provide quality product for the money she received for her work. It is absolutely not acceptable to present a finished work of art for public display in perpetuity that has many substantial gross misspellings of commonly known names. If she is a "serious" artist, ie. professional, it is incumbent on her to make sure her work is free from errors. If she knows she has a problem with spelling, as many people do, then she needs to look up these names in reference books or get someone else to proofread them. This is really not too much to ask of anyone providing goods or services for profit.
47 posted on 10/09/2004 12:00:17 PM PDT by spinestein (Nov 2nd. Don't forget to flush the Johns)
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To: orangelobster
You've misunderestimated this woman Fred.

Misunderstand her? If she is a legitimate artist, it is her job to communicate. That is what art is, communication. She has the responsibility to make you understand her. The jarring disharmony of misspelled words act as a barrier to that communication.

Unless that communication is to be about her ignorance and sloth, and arrogance in refusing to do her job as an artist and remove the communication flaws in her work.

48 posted on 10/09/2004 12:07:45 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: orangelobster
This whole grammar hysteria is very much like the nonsense I have been hearing from lefties the past four years who keep whining about President Bush's tortured syntax and texasisms while failing to credit him for his substance.

Again, an exercise in sophistry. The analogy is ridiculous, because there is no comparison between answering a question off the top of your head, and detailing a work you've had many months or years to prepare. Furthermore, the identities of the figures in this mural are important to the work, so the spelling of their names is part of the art itself.

Finally, your analogy fails because it offers a false alternative. If I thought the President's professionalism was as shoddy as this woman's, I would indeed withhold my vote, but that doesn't mean I would need to vote for Kerry.

49 posted on 10/09/2004 12:08:12 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: spinestein

"This is really not too much to ask of anyone providing goods or services for profit."

40,000 bucks is fair market value for this piece. She delivered the piece under a contract wherein the work cannot be altered without the artist's permission. She thinks it's O.K. and I agree with her. The deal is done. Join the grammar police here and vote kerry, the grammitically correct empty suit. Give me Texasisms, primitive mispelled art and solid clear thinking anyday.


50 posted on 10/09/2004 12:08:13 PM PDT by orangelobster
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