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THE KERRY vs. BUSH DEBATE
Fiedor Report On the News #320 ^ | 10-10-04 | Chris Bjornberg

Posted on 10/09/2004 11:46:25 AM PDT by forest

THE KERRY vs. BUSH DEBATE

by: Chris Bjornberg

I finally had time to listen to the tape of the debate.

Kerry continually repeated the mantra, "I can do it better." Bush has caught 75% of the Al Quida terrorists and has them in prison. Pakistan is catching terrorist leaders. Even Yemen is supporting us and gave the death penalty to two terrorists who bombed the U.S.S. Cole. How's Kerry going to do better? Oh, maybe he'll claim our troops were cutting off Iraqi's ears and raping women.

Kerry has continually voted over the years to cut funding to the CIA, FBI, and our military.

Kerry said, "We don't have the right to tell North Korea or Iran that they shouldn't develop nuclear weapons, when we're trying to develop a bunker busting nuclear missile." So, if we have nuclear bombs, Muslims have a right to have nuclear bombs. This is the sort of logic that makes people think that liberals hate America.

He also said, "We didn't need a tax cut, we needed to spend more on homeland security." Bush invented "Homeland Security", not Kerry or Clinton. Personally, I think that we need to limit immigration and post our military on the Mexican border.

Kerry said, "Iraq was the wrong country to invade. It's like Roosevelt invading Mexico after Pearl Harbor. Sadaam didn't have weapons of mass destruction." (another Democrat Mantra) I must admit that repeat a lie enough and it's believed, and making a big deal out of a minor point is somewhat successful at conditioning morons to hate Republicans. Look at the record -- Kerry and other democrats voted to cut funding for the CIA and FBI. Clinton was afraid of the FBI's investigation of his illegal campaign contributions from China, and selling of military secrets to China, and gave an executive order that forbid the CIA from sharing information with the FBI. (Which contributed to 9/11.) Sadaam used weapons of mass destruction against the Kurds, and Iran. Who knew whether Sadaam had any poison gas hidden? Sadaam murdered 300,000 people. Sadaam invaded Kuwait. Oh, but Bush should have given ten years of sanctions another try.

Muslim men beat their women, deny them an education or career, imprison them in the home, and force them to bear children for Islam. Yet, Democratic women in America bash Bush in support of Muslims; what un-American bigotry. Ted Kennedy recently said, "The President's handling of the war has been a toxic mix of ignorance, arrogance and stubborn ideology." That's funny when you consider that Clinton bombed Christian Serbs in Kosovo in support of Albanian Muslims and denied the Navy Seals the opportunity to assassinate Osama after the U.S.S. Cole was bombed. The Democrats send messages to our enemy that gives them hope.

Kerry said, "Bush invaded Iraq without a plan to win the peace." Eighty five percent of the insurgents fighting American soldiers are from other Arab nations. Who could have guessed that the Iraq war would draw so many out of town extremists. Muslim clerics in many countries, including Iraq, export terrorism and condition young boys (like Pavlov's dog) to hate everybody including Muslims of other sects. They brainwash them to be terrorists and martyrs and to kill American soldiers, behead people working in Iraq, and blow-up women and children in Israel and New York. Now, they're all heading to Iraq to join the Jihad against the Infidel U.S. As Tommy Franks said, "Better that we kill them there than fight them in New York." We're killing hundreds of these scum every week. Good riddance. Iraq's not a quagmire, it's a great solution to rid the world of future terrorists. The war is working out better than we dreamed.

The French disregarded the U.N. sanctions on Iraq and sold Sadaam weapons in exchange for oil, including anti-aircraft rockets, right up to the day of the U.S. invasion.

Kerry said, "Bush invaded Iraq without passing the Global test." In other words, if the French don't think we should invade Iraq, then we shouldn't. How absurd. Few countries will ever support us. We're America, we're hated by the world. Half the nations represented in the U.N. are piss poor and controlled by corrupt dictatorships and Kings. They don't want democracy in Iraq or anywhere. Democrats seem to hate Republicans so much that they support and aid terrorists. Do you think the French or the U.N. will support Bush or Kerry? Never.

Kerry said, "The Republican tax cut just benefited the rich. We need to equip our troops better. Bush sent our troops into Iraq without body armor." Kerry voted against funding body armor, and has continually voted against spending for more modern equipment for our troops. He did vote to invade Iraq, another flip/flop. The Republican tax cut was across the board and included a repeal of the marriage penalty, death tax, and it cut the capital gains tax for middle class investors. How do the Democrats get away with continually lying about Republican tax cuts are only for the rich?

Clinton's TAX RAISE was across the board. Which is better for working people -- Tax cut or tax raise? Kerry voted for a fifty cent tax raise per gallon of gas. Thanks a lot.

How the debate will fare on the domestic issues remains to be seen. Look for Kerry to say, 'We need to spend more on ... blah, blah, blah.' Who pays for increased spending, Kerry? Tax increases in your first year or first week in the White House? You have sooooo much sympathy for Muslims, how about American working people? Are we slaves?

 

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assassinate; caught; clinton; extremists; funding; homeland; loserman; lurch; lying; mass; nuclear; record; sanctions; seconddebate; secrets; spending; troops; women; yemen
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Bush has caught 75% of the terrorists.

Kerry's logic makes people think that liberals hate America.

Kerry said instead of a tax cut we needed to spend more on homeland security. But Bush invented Homeland Security.

We need to limit immigration and post our military on the Mexican border.

Sadaam used weapons of mass destruction.

Muslim men beat their women. Yet, Democratic women in America bash Bush in support of Muslims; what un-American bigotry.

The Democrats send messages to our enemy that gives them hope.

Eighty five percent of insurgents fighting American soldiers are from other Arab nations. Iraq is a great solution to rid future terrorists. The war is working out better than we dreamed.

The French disregarded the U.N. sanctions.

Clinton raised taxes. Bush lowered them. Who pays for increased spending, Kerry?

1 posted on 10/09/2004 11:46:26 AM PDT by forest
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To: forest

Now, America, which part of that do you not understand?


2 posted on 10/09/2004 11:51:41 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Terrorists will "global test" us right off the planet)
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To: forest
But, you see, this article uses logic Kerry voted against allowing logic in this election.

/sarcasm

Good article, I do have someone who needs to see this one.

3 posted on 10/09/2004 11:55:48 AM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: forest

Held his own. Wish it could have been better. Kerry is tough. When Kerry praised a general who supports him, pointing to his accomplishments in the Gulf War, Bush missed a great opportunity to remind audience that Kerry opposed the Gulf War despite the presence of a large coalition and the fact the most of the cost was borne by allies, notably Saudi Arabia.


4 posted on 10/09/2004 11:56:53 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: forest

Kerry has given consistent signals about his policy on fill in blank.

5 posted on 10/09/2004 11:57:13 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: forest

Every Evil on Earth has the workings and enabling of a Rat behind it..Iran and all that sprang forth and North Korea..


6 posted on 10/09/2004 12:01:23 PM PDT by Fast1 (Mullah Kerry for an Islamic America..)
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To: forest

How can the debate be a tie when W kicked Kerry's a$$ and had him tongue licking and stammering his words most of the night . What a farce !!


7 posted on 10/09/2004 12:04:14 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: forest

Bush kicked Kerry's butt around the stage like an old football.

The opening question set the tone for rest of the evening.

How many of you noticed that Bush spoke directly to the camera, the audience and the people and Kerry spoke directly to Bush???


8 posted on 10/09/2004 12:13:50 PM PDT by Pylot
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To: forest

BRAVO!!!!!!!! Thanks for the post!


9 posted on 10/09/2004 12:14:31 PM PDT by awakened (The evidence of God's existence far outweighs the proof of His absence.)
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To: gitmo

I love that!
Consider it stolen (borrowed).


10 posted on 10/09/2004 12:16:37 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: forest

This second debate was a warm up for the third one. Bush is going to throw down a Texas whoop ass on Kerry. Kerry's head will be spinning around ...but that is pretty normal, I guess.


11 posted on 10/09/2004 12:18:38 PM PDT by ArmedNReady (George Bush Has Wood and Global Test-icles.)
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To: forest
"For me, the most stunning moment of the whole evening was when George Bush was asked to name three mistakes that he has made ... and the President couldn't even name one mistake." John F. Kerry

1) Charlie Gibson probably read the Mark Halperin memo and picked the question for a reason.

2) Ever been in a job interview where they ask you for your biggest weakness, or your three worst mistakes? What would an expert advise you do to?

3) This was clearly a "gotcha" question for our President because the flip side was not, "Mr. Kerry name three of YOUR mistakes", it would be "Mr. Kerry please comment on the President's self-admitted mistakes, and please feel free to pile on".

4) At least ABC should have the common decency to register as a 527 organization, right behind See-BS.

Next question is for Mr Kerry: Many corporations like Heinz have moved operations off-shore. How does it feel to be married to Benedict Arnold? You have 2 minutes.

Mr. Kerry a follow-up: You said earlier that you recently met with the UN Security Council. Why, and what was your intensions?
12 posted on 10/09/2004 12:24:38 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: ArmedNReady

Its interesting that I got emails from a die-hard liberal, call from an independent who leans conservative, and another die-hard liberal all talk about how Kerry is looking to win the elections probably with a wide margin. Funny that all of that disappeared yesterday and today. No emails, no calls from the independent etc..:) Goes to show that Bush really did kick ass last night and looking forward to more in the next one. As a senior aide to the Bush campaign said to NRO online if I am not mistaken, look for shock and awe to happen in October!!!


13 posted on 10/09/2004 12:25:58 PM PDT by bushsupporter30
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To: forest
Kerry said, "We don't have the right to tell North Korea or Iran that they shouldn't develop nuclear weapons, when we're trying to develop a bunker busting nuclear missile." So, if we have nuclear bombs, Muslims have a right to have nuclear bombs.

IMO this is one of the most frightening aspects of a Kerry presidency, his belief that there's a moral equivalence between the U.S. and a crazed Islamofacist regime like Iran or a communist hellhole like NK. His answer to the "most important threat today", nuclear proliferation, is to disarm us so that Europe will like us better. (Huh-lo, haven't we danced that dance already?) I hope and pray people out there are hearing what he's saying beneath all the pompous rhetoric.

This is the sort of logic that makes people think that liberals hate America.

No, it's the sort of logic that makes people KNOW that liberals hate America.

14 posted on 10/09/2004 12:36:36 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: Renegade
How can the debate be a tie when W kicked Kerry's a$$ and had him tongue licking and stammering his words most of the night . What a farce !!

It is a farce. Bush won that debate big time. Kerry the *best debator in the world* was back on his heels most of the debate.

Furthermore Bush effectively used the debate to highlight Kerry's weak Senate record and his liberal politics.
Kerry needed to be tagged with this label. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

16 posted on 10/09/2004 4:30:48 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: forest; Aquinasfan
Kerry was really caught off-guard when he gave his weasel flip flop answer to the (I imagine Catholic) woman who gave him the most hardass question of the evening about abortion. He was stammering...I don't think he expected it.

President Bush gave the better answer. Interesting how John Kerry earlier tried to lambast the President over "labels" and how they don't mean anything, yet he made sure he acclaimed himself "a Catholic" to the questioner...not to mention bringing up "conservative" judges later on in the debate. Who is labeling who?

17 posted on 10/09/2004 10:27:54 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Pray Our Nation will experience something significant and miraculous in this election.)
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To: awakened

Thanks should go to Doug, the guy that wrote the essay. He's the guy with the smarts.


18 posted on 10/09/2004 11:45:59 PM PDT by forest
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To: forest

Oops! I boo-bood. Thanks got to Chris for this one.


19 posted on 10/09/2004 11:47:46 PM PDT by forest
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To: gitmo

Now there is a real Kerry signal. Thanks for the post, and to whomever the credit goes.


20 posted on 10/09/2004 11:53:01 PM PDT by forest
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