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ALAN KEYES, MR. RADIOACTIVE
Realclearpolitics.com ^ | 10-11-04

Posted on 10/11/2004 11:11:38 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Keyes2000mt

No, but he's pulling about the same percentage that I would have if the GOP had called me here in Virginia and asked me to bag it to Illinois to run for the Senate.


81 posted on 10/11/2004 1:13:00 PM PDT by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It doesn't matter what "legal strategies" pro-reparations groups employ. The sheer dollar amount of a full reparations program rises to trillions of dollars. You are woefully mistaken if you think Congress and the Executive could possibly sit idly by while some court somewhere depleted the national treasury of that amount.

Don't let the "legal strategies" of demagogues scare you. Activist judges have done great harm to this country over the years, as you have noted, but they cannot just take over the jealously guarded purse strings of Congress and dole out trillions of dollars to a whole class of Americans on the basis of skin color.

Slave reparations will never happen. Keyes and his buddies are just demagoguing to a particular group, which is a very sleazy thing to do.

82 posted on 10/11/2004 1:13:42 PM PDT by beckett
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To: unspun

I wasn't worried. I don't doubt that Alan will open his mouth again and immediately after he does, he will drop another 2 or 3 points in the polls. I do however think that Keyes cannot drop below 20. At least 20% of Illinois will still vote for him no matter what comes out of his mouth.

Whether it's giving black Americans tax-free status for an unspecified amount of time or labeling half of America terrorists, count on Keyes to always stick his foot in his mouth.

He's been doing it since the 2000 primaries, in which he accused the press of being racist and that's why they weren't covering him as much as Bush and Keyes. Keyes didn't stop to think that MAYBE, just MAYBE, they weren't covering him because he couldn't get above 5% in the polls. We heard the same whining from Kucinich in the primaries earlier this year. Both parties have their fringe candidates and they should largely be ignored, in my opinion.


83 posted on 10/11/2004 1:18:54 PM PDT by MrLiberty
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To: MrLiberty

I meant Bush and McCain, not Bush and Keyes.


84 posted on 10/11/2004 1:19:19 PM PDT by MrLiberty
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To: beckett
Keyes has destroyed what little was left of his reputation by entering into this disastrous campaign, where we learned he wants slave reparations, the final nail in his coffin.

Not quite... his last nail for me was his announcement of suupport for reinstating the military draft.

85 posted on 10/11/2004 1:22:26 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: SJackson

The author of this anti-Keyes hitpiece does what he doesn't intend to do, namely expose the arrogant condescension and lack of principle of many members of the Washington and Illinois GOP 'elite' leadership.

Herein lies the rotten core of the severe problems the GOP in Illinois and in the country are experiencing.

Win or lose, there is an internal political bloodbath on its way within our party. Count on it.

The conservatives in this party have played nice, in the face of great provocation, for four years.

Novemeber third is coming, and I for one will not forget the shameful way the party hacks have treated conservatives.


86 posted on 10/11/2004 1:24:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: Barlowmaker

You hit the nail on the head.


87 posted on 10/11/2004 1:29:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: beckett
I think it would cause chaos, yes. But I also think there is a real threat that courts will eventually rule in favor of reparations anyway. The courts are corrupt.

More likely, though, is that the courts will rule bit by bit against corporations rather than the government. That way the people will just think, "Oh well, it's not my problem."

Keyes will have no effect on the issue one way or the other. But even if he did, his idea is only to exempt them from taxes. You must factor in the point that a certain percentage of them pay little or no taxes now, so it would only be as they are productive that they would be reaping any kind of benefit, and that would only be temporary.

88 posted on 10/11/2004 1:29:32 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: MrLiberty

One huge difference, betweek Keyes and Kucinich, in case you haven't noticed, is that Keyes is right on the most important issues, whereas Kucinich is wrong.


89 posted on 10/11/2004 1:30:33 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Mini-14

The fact that you will effectively give aid and comfort to Obama simply because you disagree with Keyes on a couple of issues does not reflect well on you.

Obama is a stone-cold socialist who will make Hillary look like a conservative in the Senate.

Foolish in the extreme.


90 posted on 10/11/2004 1:31:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: SJackson
Well, it looks as though Osama bin Bama will be the next Senator from Illinois in the great tradition of Carol Mosely-Braun!

Illinois can sure pick them can't they?

This cat is about as close to a communist as Harken, et al.

91 posted on 10/11/2004 1:33:02 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: OHelix

You are a very observant individual, and your remarks on this thread are excellent.


92 posted on 10/11/2004 1:34:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: unspun

Keyes is wrong on the drug war, he is wrong on trade, and he is wrong on Dick Cheney's daughter.

He's kind of like a black Pat Buchanan. What a totally terrible candidate. I don't think the Republicans could have picked a worse one. They could have picked any Republican state rep and he would have gotten 40% against Obama, but now Keyes is going to go down in flames and take the Republican party of Illinois with him(although they're already pretty screwed themselves). You know it's true.


93 posted on 10/11/2004 1:36:15 PM PDT by MrLiberty
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To: SJackson
And I wonder how many black,conservative Democrats may switch tickets and vote for Keyes. I happen to think there are many bright blacks who have been waiting for someone they believed held their moral position that they believed they could trust. White Republicans were never able to overcome the propaganda delivered by the Democrats and have always been suspect whatever their moral position.

In the mid-eighties I had many black acquaintances and we would talk politics. They were against abortion,homosexual activities,easy divorce laws and easy access to aid for single mothers. When I would ask them why they weren't supporting the Republican candidate for governor since he held the same positions as I did,they were silent. I knew they liked me too much and were polite enough not to want to insult me to say that they couldn't trust me because I was white as was the condidate,but I knew that was it in a nutshell.

I hope and pray that those blacks,like my acquaintances, will hear the compelling ring of truth stated by one of their own and cross the party line. It would serve all us well,especially the Republican Party.

94 posted on 10/11/2004 1:36:51 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: ikka

Has Keyes taken some radical positions or something that I've missed, or is he just being lambasted because he's the first plain-spoken conservative to come along in years? If the latter, what a sad commentary.

MM


95 posted on 10/11/2004 1:39:23 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: MississippiMan
Has Keyes taken some radical positions or something that I've missed, or is he just being lambasted because he's the first plain-spoken conservative to come along in years? If the latter, what a sad commentary.

Depends. Do you consider positions in favor of exempting the descendants of slaves from income tax and in favor of national service, military or other, for all youths radical?

96 posted on 10/11/2004 1:41:26 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: JesseHousman

Obama's even worse than Harkin, and that takes some doing.

I once wrote a book about Commie Tommy and his far left extremism, one that was based on very indepth research, so I know whereof I speak.


97 posted on 10/11/2004 1:41:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: MississippiMan

Alan has certainly taken a couple of positions that are off the Republican reservation. But the vast bulk of his positions are straight up the middle of the mainstream of the GOP. People need to get some proportion, and not allow themselves to be swayed so easily by the MSM and the RINOs who would rather see the socialist Obama in office than Keyes.

And there are plenty of them here, including in the inner circle of the Illinois GOP party chair...these are the people that she intends to promote into leadership to take the party even further left. They have admitted publically they intend to vote for Obama.


98 posted on 10/11/2004 1:48:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: EternalVigilance
The fact that you will effectively give aid and comfort to Obama simply because you disagree with Keyes on a couple of issues does not reflect well on you.

I have not provided "aid and comfort" to Obama. As far as I am concerned, Alan Keyes has provided "aid and comfort" to Obama by damaging the Republican party further than was already done by the closet Democrats in the Republican Party.

99 posted on 10/11/2004 1:54:58 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: MadIvan
If President Reagan would have been engaged in the same interview that Keyes was in and as a response to the same question have said with a wink and a smile "shouldn't that really be a question for her Dad"? I would still have voted for Reagan but with misgivings. I would have thought what kind of chicken sh.t answer is that,or,is he losing his mind?

Ideally,Keyes could have said:"you heard what I said,now go figure it out yourself". Ah,but that we were all gifted with the gift of "advance hindsight"!!

100 posted on 10/11/2004 1:55:07 PM PDT by saradippity
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