Bush Team Confident Of West Virginia Win

Fox News ^ | October 13, 2004 | Associated Press

[Clintonfatigued]

Advisers to the Massachusetts senator acknowledge that he trails Bush in West Virginia, but they insist the state is still within reach.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

MI, MN, WI, IA, and PA have >50% job approval for Bush. That predicts a Bush win when the undecided's decide.

Bush is also running ahead several points in the PA suburbs this time. He lost the suburbs in 2000.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Bush hasn't pulled ads in PA. We're still seeing them in Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, and Philadelphia.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

West Virginia is more democratic than either PA outside Philly or Ohio. I agree though, the same issues are in play there for voters Kerry should win - coal and steel. Bush has taken care of these industries. The Democrats have an 8 year record of neglect. Bush is leading in SW PA.

[Kuksool]

Has the polling data from internals or media outlets indicted any kind of inroads in Montgomery, Delware, Bucks, Berks counties? If Kerry gets over 60% of Philly Metro area, then he wins the Keystone state.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

That is good news. If Republicans would rethink their position on free trade, they could effect a realignment in WV.

Were you the only two people who missed Bush imposing Steel tarriffs and giving a big boost to revitalizing the steel industry there? The bigest beneficiaries were Bethlehem Steel (Coatesville and Conshohocken in PA), LTV Steel (Cleveland), Wierton Steel (Wierton, WV and Steubenville, OH), National Steel (Detroit and E. St Louis), and Rouge Steel (Detroit). Concomittant with this has been benefits in terms of a new Coke plant in southern Ohio, revitalization in the Minnesota and Michigan iron fields.

Notice the states really benefitting here - PA, OH, WV, MI, MN. Imagine that!

Its hard to miss if you work in the industry how many steel mills, coke plants, and mines closed between 1992 and 2000, and how almost none have under Bush since 2001.

Helps the railroaders and coal miners and limestone quarriers too.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

The only polling for this area I saw showed Kerry at 51 and Bush at 40, I believe, but this was with a very tiny smaple of a statewide poll, so not reliable.

SurveyUSA shows Bush with a 3 point lead in the suburbs statewide. The Philadelphia suburbs are 2.5 million strong. Pittsburgh is closer to 1 million. Harrisburg, Lancaster and York are around 1 million together. Allentown and Scranton are another 1 million together. There are no other real suburbs. A 20 point Kerry lead in the Philly area would not produce a 3 point Bush lead statewide without a 25 point lead the other way in the rest of the suburbs of the state (which is not true, I think - maybe in Harrisburg-York-Lancaster, but not in Pittsburgh and Scranton).

[RockinRight]

If Kerry needs to campaign in New Jersey, then W is doing MUCH better than the polls are telling us.

[RockinRight]

I've written off PA. W will get WI and IA, probably New Mexico, maybe Minnesota, and maybe NJ.

[EERinOK]

Explain to West Virginians what Kyoto was all about and Kerry's alleged even quasi-support of it, and WV and its 5 votes belong to us.

I am sure Rockefeller is doing everything in his power to not let it get out.

If you know anyone in WV, PA, or Ohio, get the word out.

[EERinOK]

But a victorious night for the Mountaineers.

I think Uconn is a good upstart program that will be very good in a few years.

I am diehard WVU and am surprised at how rotten WVU played, especially in the first half.

Lots of work to do yet for both teams, but I see potential.

[Flux Capacitor]

----Am I the only one who sees how ludicrous his position has become? He has to steal NH, somehow steal OH or FL, and keep every one of Algore's 2000 states. Yet MO is totally off the table, as is AZ, NC, and AR, and WI is nearly gone. (IMHO, it is safe right now).----

I think Kerry will end up winning NH. Agree about MO, AZ, NC, and AR, and I believe he'll have a solid win in FL -- but WI, while Bush's best chance for a Gore-state pickup, is by no means a lock, and OH is just way, way, way too damn close. Bush has got to open a larger lead there if he's gonna offset the fraud.

-Dan

[zbigreddogz]

I've never really been worried about this state honestly. It's on the verge of a total breakaway from the Dark Side. Bush walluped Gore there, because of his radical environmentalism and his gun grabbing. Kerry has nothing on Gore as far as those issues go. I just don't see it going Kerry, and I haven't seen a single poll in months that shows him up in the state.

I'd expect that within 10 years, we'll gain a house seat and a Senate seat there as well.