Posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:49 PM PDT by watsonfellow
http://www.andrewsullivan.com /
SOMETHING ABOUT MARY: I keep getting emails asserting that Kerry's mentioning of Mary Cheney is somehow offensive or gratuitous or a "low blow". Huh? Mary Cheney is out of the closet and a member, with her partner, of the vice-president's family. That's a public fact. No one's privacy is being invaded by mentioning this. When Kerry cites Bush's wife or daughters, no one says it's a "low blow." The double standards are entirely a function of people's lingering prejudice against gay people. And by mentioning it, Kerry showed something important. This issue is not an abstract one. It's a concrete, human and real one. It affects many families, and Bush has decided to use this cynically as a divisive weapon in an election campaign. He deserves to be held to account for this - and how much more effective than showing a real person whose relationship and dignity he has attacked and minimized? Does this makes Bush's base uncomfortable? Well, good. It's about time they were made uncomfortable in their acquiescence to discrimination. Does it make Bush uncomfortable? Even better. His decision to bar gay couples from having any protections for their relationships in the constitution is not just a direct attack on the family member of the vice-president. It's an attack on all families with gay members - and on the family as an institution. That's a central issue in this campaign, a key indictment of Bush's record and more than relevant to any debate. For four years, this president has tried to make gay people invisible, to avoid any mention of us, to pretend we don't exist. Well, we do. Right in front of him.
You just need to get your priorities in order. If you're putting gay marriage above border security and the WOT, you seriously need to manage your priorities a little better.
You can be as inclusive as you want, but be inclusive with your own kids.
I keep getting emails asserting that Kerry's mentioning of Mary Cheney is somehow offensive or gratuitous or a "low blow". Huh? Mary Cheney is out of the closet and a member, with her partner, of the vice-president's family. That's a public fact. No one's privacy is being invaded by mentioning this. When Kerry cites Bush's wife or daughters, no one says it's a "low blow." The double standards are entirely a function of people's lingering prejudice against gay people. And by mentioning it, Kerry showed something important. This issue is not an abstract one. It's a concrete, human and real one. It affects many families, and Bush has decided to use this cynically as a divisive weapon in an election campaign. He deserves to be held to account for this - and how much more effective than showing a real person whose relationship and dignity he has attacked and minimized? Does this makes Bush's base uncomfortable? Well, good. It's about time they were made uncomfortable in their acquiescence to discrimination. Does it make Bush uncomfortable? Even better. His decision to bar gay couples from having any protections for their relationships in the constitution is not just a direct attack on the family member of the vice-president. It's an attack on all families with gay members - and on the family as an institution. That's a central issue in this campaign, a key indictment of Bush's record and more than relevant to any debate. For four years, this president has tried to make gay people invisible, to avoid any mention of us, to pretend we don't exist. Well, we do. Right in front of him. -Andrew Sullivan
I agree she is already out, but Mary Cheney doesn't define herself as an out lesbian, and it is typically puky Democrat identity politics to attempt to define her that way. She supports her father's ticket, so for Kerry to highlight her differences with the ticket (on gay marriage) is just adding insult to injury.
The Cheney's know they're at odds with Bush's vision for America on this one point, the VP has iterated and reiterated this time and again. To them, it's something they don't get riled up over. It may be an issue, but it's not one that's on the kitchen table of most American's in a post-9/11 world, despite what the Democrats are babbling about. Kerry can claim it's divisive. On the whole, 90% of Americans agree with Bush's position. For the Democrats, it's a loser of an issue.
Is your browser set to English?
Has anybody checked the local bath houses?
It means when you are engaged in an argument with somebody, it is unseemly to bring the family of that person into the argument to make "a cheap, tawdry political" point.
You seem to have a personality flaw. Work on it for New Years.
There's no need to counter the rats. They dug that hole, it's up to them to either climb out, or stop digging.
Thats your problem.
OK genius, what battleground state does homosexual marriage help Bush in?
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